Barry Bonds

[dan4vols]

true but hes the only one breaking the babes record

 

[GAVol]

MLB is just holding its breath praying that he'll retire before he gets into a serious chase for 755. Talk about a potential PR nightmare.

 

[dan4vols]

MLB is just holding its breath praying that he'll retire before he gets into a serious chase for 755. Talk about a potential PR nightmare.

Laugh if you like but Im thinkin it could rival the strike....for angry fans.

 

[vixenvol]

Never have liked Barry Bonds, and never will. He has a terrible attitude, and to top it all off................HE TOTALLY BLEW THE LAST INNING OF THE LADY VOLS GAME! I was fricking livid. When that ball went over the fence, the coverage of the game should have continued. We will hear about this crap for weeks, so why was it so important to ruin our game? Geez. Mind you, I understand the historical aspect of this, but still. I can see the analysis and bios for a while. I really wanted to see that final inning, before knowing the score! :banghead:

 

[GAVol]

Laugh if you like but Im thinkin it could rival the strike....for angry fans.

Some people definitely feel that way, but IMO they are already probably turned off by baseball anyway. I'm probably in the minority, but I think we better be very careful about villifying too many players for roid use or we might find out that a lot of our sports heroes from the past have been involved in a lot more stuff than we'd like to admit.

 

[GAVol]

Never have liked Barry Bonds, and never will. He has a terrible attitude, and to top it all off................HE TOTALLY BLEW THE LAST INNING OF THE LADY VOLS GAME! I was fricking livid. When that ball went over the fence, the coverage of the game should have continued. We will hear about this crap for weeks, so why was it so important to ruin our game? Geez. Mind you, I understand the historical aspect of this, but still. I can see the analysis and bios for a while. I really wanted to see that final inning, before knowing the score! :banghead:

I understand the frustration . . . but if ESPN had not switched away from women's softball over to the coverage of Bonds passing Babe Ruth, some TV exec's heads would be rolling right now.

 

[vixenvol]

I understand the frustration . . . but if ESPN had not switched away from women's softball over to the coverage of Bonds passing Babe Ruth, some TV exec's heads would be rolling right now.

But, did we have to see all of the analysis and bio? It could have waited 15 minutes. I really think they carried it a bit far, JMHO.

 

[GAVol]

You're probably right . . . They had to switch away, but they definitely tortured it a little bit.

At least they tape delayed the game and showed it in its entirety rather than just flashing up a final score. All I'm saying is that just about any event would and should have been pre-empted.

 

[CrystalEHS07]

But, did we have to see all of the analysis and bio? It could have waited 15 minutes. I really think they carried it a bit far, JMHO.

I totally agree. Showing the HR was fine. I didn't like that they cut into the final inning of my LV game...but, I understand the historical significance of the homerun. However...they could have waited on the analysis until after the game. It was in it's last inning, for goodness sakes. A good fifteen minutes later, the game would be over. :banghead:


~*Crystal*~

 

[vixenvol]

I totally agree. Showing the HR was fine. I didn't like that they cut into the final inning of my LV game...but, I understand the historical significance of the homerun. However...they could have waited on the analysis until after the game. It was in it's last inning, for goodness sakes. A good fifteen minutes later, the game would be over. :banghead:
~*Crystal*~

Thank you ma'am! I am still angry about it. :realmad:

 

[milohimself]

But, did we have to see all of the analysis and bio? It could have waited 15 minutes. I really think they carried it a bit far, JMHO.

I doubt ESPN really cared about the softball game. This isn't my own point of view, but the program was probably filler so people would go watch the Indy 500. Of course ESPN is going to cut away to some ridiculous analysis of Bonds' HR junk.

 

[WA_Vol]

For those who think it doesnt matter Bonds took steroids. Ask yourself this, did Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron use steroids? I'm not sure either one had much of an opportunity to lift weights.

Its not enough that they changed the baseball and made it livilier and easier to hit out of the park but they have to take steroids too? When Babe Ruth hit 60 home runs in a season, I think the next closest player to him had 28.

 

[milohimself]

For those who think it doesnt matter Bonds took steroids. Ask yourself this, did Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron use steroids? I'm not sure either one had much of an opportunity to lift weights.

Its not enough that they changed the baseball and made it livilier and easier to hit out of the park but they have to take steroids too? When Babe Ruth hit 60 home runs in a season, I think the next closest player to him had 28.

So? In terms of HR hitting, I treat it sort of like a change overall in baseball. You had the changing of the balls, resizing of the parks, change in length of the season. I know steroids didn't encompass all hitters, but I believe enough hitters (pitchers, too for that matter) were juiced that I treated it like any other change in the game. I'm not justifying it, either.

My main point is, let the records stay. Should we asterisk every single season HR record after Ruth's 60, because the season is longer? Should we asterisk career home run marks because the ball parks are differently sized? No. Even if you do want to change it because of steroids, I say let the records stay as they are. As much as the players have responsibility for taking the drugs, MLB also bears responsibility in not even coming close to catching these guys in the act. The players put tainted records on the board, and MLB let tainted records be put up.

 

[vixenvol]

I doubt ESPN really cared about the softball game. This isn't my own point of view, but the program was probably filler so people would go watch the Indy 500. Of course ESPN is going to cut away to some ridiculous analysis of Bonds' HR junk.

I think that most Vol and UM fans cared about the game, and that should matter. For pete's sake, it was the top of the seventh, in a go ahead or go home game, with a score of 1-0. If it had been like the first game today, I might have understood, but this one was close, and do or die. I love my Vols and every time it is that close, I will be upset over such an event. We will hear about this for weeks, and all it would have taken was 15 or 20 minutes out of said weeks, after the ball cleared the fence, to finish the game. Then, they could have talked about it for as long as they cared to. I wouldn't have had the first qualm about it. BUT, if I had been interested in watching Barry Bonds hit that HR, I would have watched that game. I understood the cut to him at the plate, but all the crap that followed was too much.

 

[milohimself]

I think that most Vol and UM fans cared about the game, and that should matter. For pete's sake, it was the top of the seventh, in a go ahead or go home game, with a score of 1-0. If it had been like the first game today, I might have understood, but this one was close, and do or die. I love my Vols and every time it is that close, I will be upset over such an event. We will hear about this for weeks, and all it would have taken was 15 or 20 minutes out of said weeks, after the ball cleared the fence, to finish the game. Then, they could have talked about it for as long as they cared to. I wouldn't have had the first qualm about it. BUT, if I had been interested in watching Barry Bonds hit that HR, I would have watched that game. I understood the cut to him at the plate, but all the crap that followed was too much.

I didn't disagree with you. I'm just saying, ESPN is the one running the show, and its all about ratings. I'm sure the vast majority of people out there would rather see Bonds hit 715 (and all that analysis afterwards) rather than a college women's softball game. Once again, I don't disagree with your sentiment.

 

[vixenvol]

I didn't disagree with you. I'm just saying, ESPN is the one running the show, and its all about ratings. I'm sure the vast majority of people out there would rather see Bonds hit 715 (and all that analysis afterwards) rather than a college women's softball game. Once again, I don't disagree with your sentiment.

I am sorry for venting on you. It is just that I am still a bit preturbed over what happened. That HR was all over a lot of channels, and I wanted to see the game, OK? I was livid, and to the point of throwing things. :gun: It's all good, I hope? :dunno:

 

[smokedog#3]

Never have liked Barry Bonds, and never will. He has a terrible attitude, and to top it all off................HE TOTALLY BLEW THE LAST INNING OF THE LADY VOLS GAME! I was fricking livid. When that ball went over the fence, the coverage of the game should have continued. We will hear about this crap for weeks, so why was it so important to ruin our game? Geez. Mind you, I understand the historical aspect of this, but still. I can see the analysis and bios for a while. I really wanted to see that final inning, before knowing the score! :banghead:

i agree vixenvol, who the hell wants to see barroid hit another homer when the lady vols were on. my daughter and i were watching a great game and they break into to show us this loser. barroid will never hold a candle to the lady vols, just another good reason to dislike him. lady vols on the way to face UCLA tough task. go vols :rock:

 

[GAVol]

Just saw an interview with the guy who ended up with Bonds 715th HR ball. What a goofball. Barry Bonds is coming to the plate and he's going to the concession stand to get his wife some peanuts.

Whatever you think of Bonds . . . that's just PITIFUL! :shakehead:

 

[hohenfelsvol]

Even before the Juice rumors I did not like Barry. He is a pompous ass who has be pampered. He has broken records and second place on the HR list is no small feat but the masses to include myself will no be singing Barry's praises. He just plain and simple is not a likeable guy.

 

[tidwell]

The baseball world would be a better place if Barry Bonds ceased to exist in it. Say what you will about Barry not being a "nice guy" or using "steroids", but I just have baseless contempt for him because he plays for a West Coast team.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Poor guy gets a bad rap..........

 

[hatvol96]

i agree vixenvol, who the hell wants to see barroid hit another homer when the lady vols were on. my daughter and i were watching a great game and they break into to show us this loser. barroid will never hold a candle to the lady vols, just another good reason to dislike him. lady vols on the way to face UCLA tough task. go vols :rock:

You and the ten other people in America who were watching the softball game yesterday should boycott ESPN.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

You and the ten other people in America who were watching the softball game yesterday should boycott ESPN.

At first, I thought you were referencing Byung Hyun when I read softball game. :biggrin2:

 

[hatvol96]

Some people definitely feel that way, but IMO they are already probably turned off by baseball anyway. I'm probably in the minority, but I think we better be very careful about villifying too many players for roid use or we might find out that a lot of our sports heroes from the past have been involved in a lot more stuff than we'd like to admit.

Look at 1984 Michael Jordan. Then look at 2003 Michael Jordan. I guess that was just aging.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Come on now, 10 years compared to 4-5 years...........