Basilio mentioned... (mystery visitor)

#453
#453
if a thread on a fansite, that has several different names mentioned in it, changes this kids mind then he probably was never that "committed" in the first place.
 
#455
#455
orange parmejohn said:
if a thread on a fansite, that has several different names mentioned in it, changes this kids mind then he probably was never that "committed" in the first place.
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I don't think that's the issue.

Here's a scenario:
Recruit X visits UT under guise of secrecy.
Informed person tells rumors of his presence.
We discuss the potential identity for the recruit X.
Rival fan of whose team potential recruit X is committed to reads our boards.
Rival fan reports on their board these rumors.
The insiders on that board contact the rival school's coaching staff.
Rival school's coaching staff contacts recruit X about visit to UT.
Recruit X is pissed his visit wasn't kept secret and chooses not to commit to UT due to the breaking of trust.

There ya go.
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#456
#456
JoeKyleVol said:
I don't think that's the issue.

Here's a scenario:
Recruit X visits UT under guise of secrecy.
Informed person tells rumors of his presence.
We discuss the potential identity for the recruit X.
Rival fan of whose team potential recruit X is committed to reads our boards.
Rival fan reports on their board these rumors.
The insiders on that board contact the rival school's coaching staff.
Rival school's coaching staff contacts recruit X about visit to UT.
Recruit X is pissed his visit wasn't kept secret and chooses not to commit to UT due to the breaking of trust.

There ya go.
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Still a bit of a reach. Again, if that happense, then his commitment wasn't that solid in the first place.
 
#457
#457
JoeKyleVol said:
I don't think that's the issue.

Here's a scenario:
Recruit X visits UT under guise of secrecy.
Informed person tells rumors of his presence.
We discuss the potential identity for the recruit X.
Rival fan of whose team potential recruit X is committed to reads our boards.
Rival fan reports on their board these rumors.
The insiders on that board contact the rival school's coaching staff.
Rival school's coaching staff contacts recruit X about visit to UT.
Recruit X is pissed his visit wasn't kept secret and chooses not to commit to UT due to the breaking of trust.

There ya go.
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i understand what youre sayin man.
 
#458
#458
jbeard82 said:
Silent commits amaze me. why dont the kids just grow a pair and say hey! I wanna be a vol!!!!! Why is that so hard?
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How are people so obtuse? You can't begin to imagine the amount of crap these kids get slung at them by overzealous idiot fans. Not to mention the kid probably wants to inform the school he is committed to before everyone else in the world finds out.
 
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#459
DaddyChad said:
How are people so obtuse? You can't begin to imagine the amount of crap these kids get slung at them by overzealous idiot fans. Not to mention the kid probably wants to inform the school he is committed to before everyone else in the world finds out.
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This. The kid probably is trying to do the right thing and inform the other school of what he is doing instead of leaving without saying anything and just letting the school find out.
 
#462
#462
DaddyChad said:
How are people so obtuse? You can't begin to imagine the amount of crap these kids get slung at them by overzealous idiot fans. Not to mention the kid probably wants to inform the school he is committed to before everyone else in the world finds out.
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Even though I agree I wouldn't call the fans Idiots, overzealous yes, but not idiotic, they just haven't been taught!
 
#463
#463
kingvol said:
This. The kid probably is trying to do the right thing and inform the other school of what he is doing instead of leaving without saying anything and just letting the school find out.
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Doing the right thing by "secret" meetings, trips, phone calls, etc.

Then an attempt to remove all evidence, even if someone kept recordings of it all?

It must be Richard M. Nixon.
 
#464
#464
all4vol said:
Even though I agree I wouldn't call the fans Idiots, overzealous yes, but not idiotic, they just haven't been taught!
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Calling them idiotic was being kind. There are plenty of great fans for most fanbases but the morons leave a lasting impression on you.
 
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#465
fl0at said:
Doing the right thing by "secret" meetings, trips, phone calls, etc.

Then an attempt to remove all evidence, even if someone kept recordings of it all?

It must be Richard M. Nixon.
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he has every right to visit other places, he was with 100,00 other people so it's not like he hid it, but if a recruit wants to inform the school that he was committed to he is leaving instead of the media then I respect that. It isn't like he is covering up $200,000
 
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#467
DaddyChad said:
How are people so obtuse? You can't begin to imagine the amount of crap these kids get slung at them by overzealous idiot fans. Not to mention the kid probably wants to inform the school he is committed to before everyone else in the world finds out.
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This!! Imagine one of Knoxville's finest sighning with Bama, UF, or any other SEC school, and the grief they would recieve.
Anyone remember all the **** Darick got last year for his commitment to the Vols.
 
#468
#468
kingvol said:
he has every right to visit other places, he was with 100,00 other people so it's not like he hid it
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He has every right to visit other places. Absolutely, and he did hide it, even if he hid it in the open where everyone, and therefore almost no-one, was able to see it.

If he wanted to do the right thing by his other school, he should have made that call FIRST. First, yes. First. As in, the first call.

The second call, head nod, tip of the hat, wink wink should have come after that call. Period.

Integrity: Doing the right thing, even when no-one is looking.

Some have it, others do not.

Good pickup, though. Terrible management, even if it does stick.
 
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#469
#469
fl0at said:
He has every right to visit other places. Absolutely, and he did hide it, even if he hid it in the open where everyone, and therefore almost no-one, was able to see it.

If he wanted to do the right thing by his other school, he should have made that call FIRST. First, yes. First. As in, the first call.
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how could he know he was going to decommit before the visit? the whole point was he was swayed by his visit and Dooley, which is what changed his mind.
 
#470
#470
fl0at said:
He has every right to visit other places. Absolutely, and he did hide it, even if he hid it in the open where everyone, and therefore almost no-one, was able to see it.

If he wanted to do the right thing by his other school, he should have made that call FIRST. First, yes. First. As in, the first call.

The second call, head nod, tip of the hat, wink wink should have come after that call. Period.

Integrity: Doing the right thing, even when no-one is looking.

Some have it, others do not.

Good pickup, though. Terrible management, even if it does stick.
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1) A recruit's right to privacy exceeds a school's right to know what said recruit's actions are. If they want to discourage visits to other schools, make it clear like Saban does.

2) A school has the ability to rescind a scholarship offer anytime between now and NSD, and it goes both ways. The school is constantly looking at other options and so is the recruit.

3) Can you blame the kid for wanting to avoid the swarms of press, recruiters, and home town fans that would follow as a result of his switch in commitment? I think he's doing the smart thing by trying to keep it quiet for a month while he prepares for his decision. Speaking of that, he's making this decision in December, giving his prior school a respectful two months to recuperate from its loss.
 
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#471
kingvol said:
how could he know he was going to decommit before the visit? the whole point was he was swayed by his visit and Dooley, which is what changed his mind.
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I wasn't saying he should have backed out of his commit before the visit.

However, after the visit, when he had that little one on one, or one on many with whomever was involved, and they said: So, you ready to come to Tennessee?

That was when he could have made that call.

Or, said "Let me think about, I'll get back to you." And then made the call.

Or, said "Can I borrow your phone?"

Or, said "May I use my phone?"

The point I am making is, if he verbal'd to Tennessee prior to removing himself from consideration from his other team; then obviously he wasn't trying to "do right" by the other school.

He was trying to date two chics at once; and one of us went snooping.
 
#472
#472
fl0at said:
I wasn't saying he should have backed out of his commit before the visit.

However, after the visit, when he had that little one on one, or one on many with whomever was involved, and they said: So, you ready to come to Tennessee?

That was when he could have made that call.

Or, said "Let me think about, I'll get back to you." And then made the call.

Or, said "Can I borrow your phone?"

Or, said "May I use my phone?"

The point I am making is, if he verbal'd to Tennessee prior to removing himself from consideration from his other team; then obviously he wasn't trying to "do right" by the other school.

He was trying to date two chics at once; and one of us went snooping.
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That's the nature of recruiting.
 
#473
#473
gorockytop101 said:
1) A recruit's right to privacy exceeds a school's right to know what said recruit's actions are. If they want to discourage visits to other schools, make it clear like Saban does.

2) A school has the ability to rescind a scholarship offer anytime between now and NSD, and it goes both ways. The school is constantly looking at other options and so is the recruit.

3) Can you blame the kid for wanting to avoid the swarms of press, recruiters, and home town fans that would follow as a result of his switch in commitment? I think he's doing the smart thing by trying to keep it quiet for a month while he prepares for his decision. Speaking of that, he's making this decision in December, giving his prior school a respectful two months to recuperate from its loss.
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Yes, all those things applied to Bellamy as well, who somehow still managed to make his visit quite public...
 
#475
#475
gorockytop101 said:
That's the nature of recruiting.
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Absolutely it is, but let us not grandstand about the "greater good" of the kid's intentions by protecting that other school by also protecting him.

If his absolute real reason for holding off is to break the news to the other team... he could have done that first.

That is all I am saying.

Everything else that everyone else is saying "could" happen if he did it now... WILL absolutely come, regardless of when it happens.

In other words, all those excuses are pure BS. And I advocate calling it like is.
 
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