BasketVols in the NBA (Pros)

#1,754
#1,754
Not sure why Springer isn't getting more minutes with the Jazz. He has been efficient when he's in there. 11 min today: 5 pts, 3 steals, 2 assists
 
  • Like
Reactions: iVolSoHard
#1,755
#1,755
DK has played very poorly since that trade was rescinded. He is going to find himself with no minutes if he doesn’t snap out of it.
 
#1,756
#1,756
Namorto1 said:
DK has played very poorly since that trade was rescinded. He is going to find himself with no minutes if he doesn’t snap out of it.
Click to expand...

I would argue for the inverse. I think he’s playing poorly because he’s getting basically no minutes.

11, 10, 9, 13, 13, and 11. Those are his minutes the last 6 games. Hard to do much when you’re rarely given the chance to play and they basically just till you to camp in the corner for an occasional open 3.

When he was first drafted with the Lakers, I thought it was a perfect spot because he’d be given time to develop on a winning roster with a coach that understands how to get the most out of a shooter with DK’s profile.

It’s definitely not been that and it seems like the Luka trade has just made the situation worse. Lakers really do need to trade him this off-season while he still has any value at all. Him rotting on the bench isn’t helping him grow. He’d be better off in the G-League right now.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NighthawkVol, Godfatha and JelloPuddinPup
#1,757
#1,757
TheMookieMonster said:
I would argue for the inverse. I think he’s playing poorly because he’s getting basically no minutes.

11, 10, 9, 13, 13, and 11. Those are his minutes the last 6 games. Hard to do much when you’re rarely given the chance to play and they basically just till you to camp in the corner for an occasional open 3.

When he was first drafted with the Lakers, I thought it was a perfect spot because he’d be given time to develop on a winning roster with a coach that understands how to get the most out of a shooter with DK’s profile.

It’s definitely not been that and it seems like the Luka trade has just made the situation worse. Lakers really do need to trade him this off-season while he still has any value at all. Him rotting on the bench isn’t helping him grow. He’d be better off in the G-League right now.
Click to expand...

He just doesn’t fit the roster and timeline anymore.

He is lucky the Hornets trade failed because that place is basketball purgatory.

Hope he ends up with a rebuilding franchise with component leadership. Like the Jazz.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NighthawkVol, Vol in Buckeye Land and Chris4Vols22
#1,758
#1,758
TheMookieMonster said:
I would argue for the inverse. I think he’s playing poorly because he’s getting basically no minutes.

11, 10, 9, 13, 13, and 11. Those are his minutes the last 6 games. Hard to do much when you’re rarely given the chance to play and they basically just till you to camp in the corner for an occasional open 3.

When he was first drafted with the Lakers, I thought it was a perfect spot because he’d be given time to develop on a winning roster with a coach that understands how to get the most out of a shooter with DK’s profile.

It’s definitely not been that and it seems like the Luka trade has just made the situation worse. Lakers really do need to trade him this off-season while he still has any value at all. Him rotting on the bench isn’t helping him grow. He’d be better off in the G-League right now.
Click to expand...
Rui is evidently hurt so his minutes should
increase. I hope he takes advantage of it. I’m a huge Dalton fan and suffer watching Lakers games in the hope that he impresses. Lately he hasn’t earned many minutes based on his play. Tough to say but it’s true.
 
#1,763
#1,763
Namorto1 said:
DK has played very poorly since that trade was rescinded. He is going to find himself with no minutes if he doesn’t snap out of it.
Click to expand...
Shooters like him need to develop a rhythm. Hard to develop a rhythm when you’re getting spotty minutes and aren’t getting many shots.
 
#1,764
#1,764
Godfatha said:
Shooters like him need to develop a rhythm. Hard to develop a rhythm when you’re getting spotty minutes and aren’t getting many shots.
Click to expand...
Thankfully he has had a good showing these last 2 games while Reeves and Rui have been out with injuries. But once they are back and everyone is healthy his minutes will likely diminish again. Just how it is when you have a deep team, so whatever minutes he gets he "has to produce" and he can't be a significant negative on defensive end if/when teams target him. If he holds up he may earn more minutes. At this time the player he is competing with for minutes is Jordan Goodwin. A dude who has bounced around the NBA and G-League for 4-5 years. Guy has experience and has some intangibles that fit well with stars like Luka and LeBron.

Once the playoffs start the rotation is going to shrink. I hope DK finds himself 9th in the rotation instead of 10th, otherwise he may just become a situational player and only get minutes when they are losing.
 
#1,767
#1,767
VolDave53 said:
DK continues to shake off the lack of faith the Lakers demonstrated with the attempted trade.

Click to expand...

I don’t think they lack faith in him. That’s not how I viewed the trade. If anything, the fact that they made him a centerpiece of a blockbuster trade for one of the better post players in the NBA right now tells me they think highly of him. He’s just unfortunately on a team with waaaaaayyyyy too many guards, so finding minutes is extremely difficult.

He needs to be traded in the off-season.
 
  • Like
Reactions: YankeeVol
#1,768
#1,768
TheMookieMonster said:
I don’t think they lack faith in him. That’s not how I viewed the trade. If anything, the fact that they made him a centerpiece of a blockbuster trade for one of the better post players in the NBA right now tells me they think highly of him. He’s just unfortunately on a team with waaaaaayyyyy too many guards, so finding minutes is extremely difficult.

He needs to be traded in the off-season.
Click to expand...
One of the better post players in the NBA seems like a generous description for mark williams, even if adding “when healthy”
 
  • Like
Reactions: Col_Cathcart
#1,769
#1,769
Vol49er said:
One of the better post players in the NBA seems like a generous description for mark williams, even if adding “when healthy”
Click to expand...

Maybe I should have said “true center” instead of post players, so my bad, but yes when healthy he is a very good center and exactly what the Lakers needed. Which is why they were willing to give up more capital to get him than they did to get Luka Doncic.
 
#1,770
#1,770
TheMookieMonster said:
Maybe I should have said “true center” instead of post players, so my bad, but yes when healthy he is a very good center and exactly what the Lakers needed. Which is why they were willing to give up more capital to get him than they did to get Luka Doncic.
Click to expand...
Don’t think you can compare trade values to determine how good a player is. It’s gonna depend on salary, team’s desperation, and the stupidity of some orgs (cough cough Mavs). But whatever I’m not as high on Williams as you it doesn’t really matter
 
#1,771
#1,771
Vol49er said:
Don’t think you can compare trade values to determine how good a player is. It’s gonna depend on salary, team’s desperation, and the stupidity of some orgs (cough cough Mavs). But whatever I’m not as high on Williams as you it doesn’t really matter
Click to expand...

I think you are taking the wrong core point of my initial post, which wasn’t really about how good Williams is, but that saying trading Knecht for, at the very least, a solid post player that the Lakers desperately need, is not an indication that they “have no faith in him.” He’s clearly valuable enough in their mind that they can flip him for a useful asset.
 
  • Like
Reactions: YankeeVol
#1,772
#1,772
TheMookieMonster said:
I think you are taking the wrong core point of my initial post, which wasn’t really about how good Williams is, but that saying trading Knecht for, at the very least, a solid post player that the Lakers desperately need, is not an indication that they “have no faith in him.” He’s clearly valuable enough in their mind that they can flip him for a useful asset.
Click to expand...
Well I agree with that core point, I don’t think trading Knecht for Williams was some terrible decision or indicative they’re down on Knecht (though I did think it was rich when adding in the draft capital). I guess I’m lower on both Williams and Knecht (much as I love him) as NBA players than most
 
#1,773
#1,773
Vol49er said:
Well I agree with that core point, I don’t think trading Knecht for Williams was some terrible decision or indicative they’re down on Knecht (though I did think it was rich when adding in the draft capital). I guess I’m lower on both Williams and Knecht (much as I love him) as NBA players than most
Click to expand...

I’m not really making an assessment of Knecht’s long-term value and if he’s going to stick in the NBA or not. I’m more commenting that I don’t think a single trade is indicative of a team losing faith in a player. Sometimes, a trade just makes sense for both sides.

To your point about you being low on Knecht, that’s understandable, but I still think all things considered he’s had a pretty successful Year 1, especially when you consider how much volatility there has been for him and the lack of consistent playing time he’s getting because he’s not on a team that really has room for him. When the Lakers are healthy, he simply doesn’t fit their roster construction.
 
#1,774
#1,774
TheMookieMonster said:
I’m not really making an assessment of Knecht’s long-term value and if he’s going to stick in the NBA or not. I’m more commenting that I don’t think a single trade is indicative of a team losing faith in a player. Sometimes, a trade just makes sense for both sides.

To your point about you being low on Knecht, that’s understandable, but I still think all things considered he’s had a pretty successful Year 1, especially when you consider how much volatility there has been for him and the lack of consistent playing time he’s getting because he’s not on a team that really has room for him. When the Lakers are healthy, he simply doesn’t fit their roster construction.
Click to expand...
I agree with you on the first point

Yeah he’s been a solid rookie. I just don’t see where he’s gonna bring a team a ton of value. He can score but I don’t think he’s ever gonna be one of the three largest sources of offense for a contender, and he doesn’t contribute a lot in any other area, nor would he really project to. But he’s a hard worker who has made it further than anyone would’ve guessed five years ago so who knows. I’m rooting for him
 
New Posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

Advertisement



Back
Top