BCS 1 and 2

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Rheaber

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For all the college football fans that are much smarter than me let me ask you a question that I have been thinking about:

Obviously Ohio State and Michigan are both going to be undefeated going into their game November 18. So do you think that the looser could still be the BCS #2? Especially if Louisville beats WVU. The drop off is huge from the BCS # 3 to the BCS #4. I just don't think that an undefeated Louisville or even an undefeated WVU can overcome a 1 loss Michigan or Ohio St. Not to mention that the media would love to see a Michigan Ohio State rematch rather than a WVU MICH/OHIO STATE. Personally I think it would be boring. I may be looking at this completely wrong but I think it could be possible. :eek:hmy:

Oh and by the way did I see that Cal has a computer average of 3rd? That is crazy on so many different levels. I think it is clear that the computer polls need to go away or have one system adopted rather than several that have such different results. How can you end up with Cal having a higher computer average than Tennessee when we not only overpowered them but completely dominated every facet of the game except they beat us in # of qb's used. Actually Crompton did get in I forgot.
 
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The national title picture is still very wide open. I think tOSU and Michigan will only play each other if...

Every Big East squad beats every other one

Florida or Tennessee lose another game. I can't see Auburn making it with a weak non-conf schedule and a bad home loss.

Cal loses one more

USC loses one more

Texas loses one more

A close game between tOSU and Mich.

I think that's about it? That's what it would take for Ohio State and Michigan to be a lock to rematch for the title.
 
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I would like to agree but you really think that a 1 loss Michigan would be jumped by all of those teams?
 
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I think if michigan loses to Ohio St especially in the fasion that UT did, and OSU stays #1, then neither they nor Texas have much of a right to play for the NC. Texas alreay in my mind has lost its shot by getting spanked by the #1 team.
 
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Yes. An undefeated Big East squad makes it in. A one-loss Florida makes it in. If Florida loses, a one-loss Tennessee makes it in. The winner of Cal-USC could still make it in, if they have one loss. USC missed a two point conversion on the road to lose, and Cal's loss was a tough road game early on. If Texas handily beats Nebraska in the Big XII game, they can make it in.
 
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I am actually relieved to hear that. Although if a one loss Cal goes and a 1 loss Tennessee doesn't I think it would be good ammunition for a playoff system.
 
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That would happen IMO if Florida and Tennessee both lost one more, and there are no Big East undefeateds. And Cal wins out.
 
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Rheaber said:
I am actually relieved to hear that. Although if a one loss Cal goes and a 1 loss Tennessee doesn't I think it would be good ammunition for a playoff system.
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It would most likely mean that Cal won their conference, while Tennessee did not.
 
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Currently, there is a big gap between TOSU and Mich. and the rest of the field.

Both TOSU and Mich. are at the .9XX while #3 is at .7xx

I would hate to see a narrow win by Michigan resulting in an TOSU Mich rematch but I wouldn't rule it out.
 
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IF Rutgers fineshes undefeated... will they play in the NC? I don't see it happening but it would be pretty awesome. I'm rooting for them right behind Tennessee.
 
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kptvol said:
Had they not lost to us, it would be a possibilty to finish 2nd in the Pac-10 and still go to the big dance.
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That's generally assuming a late-season loss to USC. It's difficult (to say the least) for a team to lose two and play for the national title. It's even more difficult for a team to lose a late game and play for the national title. It's more difficult for a team to have any loss like Cal's at Tennessee and play for the national title. It's even more difficult for a 2nd-place Pac-10 team to go play for the national title.

If Cal loses again, they're out. If they win again, Pac-10 title.
 
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milohimself said:
That's generally assuming a late-season loss to USC. It's difficult (to say the least) for a team to lose two and play for the national title. It's even more difficult for a team to lose a late game and play for the national title. It's more difficult for a team to have any loss like Cal's at Tennessee and play for the national title. It's even more difficult for a 2nd-place Pac-10 team to go play for the national title.

If Cal loses again, they're out. If they win again, Pac-10 title.
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I meant, had Cal not lost to us, but then lost to Arizona State or whoever, they could finish 11-1, not win the Pac-10, and still make it to the national championship game. It's a hypothetical situation brought up to prove my original point that winning your conference is not a prerequisite for the BCS championship.
 
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kptvol said:
I meant, had Cal not lost to us, but then lost to Arizona State or whoever, they could finish 11-1, not win the Pac-10, and still make it to the national championship game. It's a hypothetical situation brought up to prove my original point that winning your conference is not a prerequisite for the BCS championship.
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Any team that loses to Arizona State or Oregon is, by rule, eliminated from consideration as even being good, let alone participating in the National Championship game.
 
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Hmm... I seem to recall a 2nd-place Pac-10 team making Arkansas look like a sham program earlier this very season.

No, I don't give a crap that McFadden didn't play, and he wouldn't have made it close unless he's an all-league defensive player.
 
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milohimself said:
Hmm... I seem to recall a 2nd-place Pac-10 team making Arkansas look like a sham program earlier this very season.

No, I don't give a crap that McFadden didn't play, and he wouldn't have made it close unless he's an all-league defensive player.
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That's the only decent nonconference win the Pac 10 has. The only other thing they have proven capable of is using 80 year old replay retards to steal a game from a team playing a wide receiver at QB. The Pac was a one trick pony with SC. Now, with the Trojans returning to earth, they have exactly no good teams.
 
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In comparison to the rest of the teams this season, Ohio State and Michigan are the only team that really stand apart. Even in spite of the Oregon State loss, USC can still beat any of the other top 10 teams. No, the Pac-10 has no outstanding teams right now. But I don't know what kind of assessment that is when nobody else does, outside of the Big Ten.
 
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milohimself said:
In comparison to the rest of the teams this season, Ohio State and Michigan are the only team that really stand apart. Even in spite of the Oregon State loss, USC can still beat any of the other top 10 teams. No, the Pac-10 has no outstanding teams right now. But I don't know what kind of assessment that is when nobody else does, outside of the Big Ten.
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The current leader in the Pac 10 was decimated by what we are probably going to find out Saturday is the fourth best team in the SEC. The SEC has at least four teams that can play with anybody in the nation.
 
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I had a question about that. Last week Colin Cowherd and Corso were talking about the NC game, they said if you don't win your confrence you can't play for the NC. They said it was a new rule. Does anyone know anything about this?
 
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utchatt said:
I had a question about that. Last week Colin Cowherd and Corso were talking about the NC game, they said if you don't win your confrence you can't play for the NC. They said it was a new rule. Does anyone know anything about this?
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that's sounds like "their" new rule...
 
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