BCS Championship

#201
#201
a 16 team playoff would always work. Sure some teams dont make in but they would have been beaten several times. This way no one is penalized for the tough conference, probably the 3 top teams from the SEC get in. Then if the big east can go deep in the playoff they really can claim their conference is better.
 
#203
#203
GAVol said:
It works in basketball and baseball because the sports lend themselves to playing more games in a short period of time.
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Teams playing in the conference championships will play 14 games this year. You could cut it to an eleven game regular season, have 8 team playoff and only 2 teams would end up playing 14 games.
 
#205
#205
sooooooooo close allvol! it's not that i don't want to try something new... just that as you mention at the end, it doesn't solve anything either.
 
#208
#208
oklavol said:
a 16 team playoff would always work. Sure some teams dont make in but they would have been beaten several times. This way no one is penalized for the tough conference, probably the 3 top teams from the SEC get in. Then if the big east can go deep in the playoff they really can claim their conference is better.
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a 16 team playoff? are you crazy? hey kids, forget your finals this year, you're going to the 4 week playoffs! I know you've just played your hearts out and 60% of our starters have bum ankles and another 55% of you have bum knees, but we've still got potentially 4 games left! LET's go get 'em boys! btw, no christmas for ya'll either.
 
#209
#209
kptvol said:
I don't see the outrage with the current system when the propositions for new systems seem to have the same problems.
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Exactly . . . What people don't seem to get is that it's not about FINALITY. It's about FINANCE. Basketball needs a tournament to rake in the dough. Football doesn't.
 
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#211
kptvol said:
I don't see the outrage with the current system when the propositions for new systems seem to have the same problems.
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you are blind if you think it has the same problems, 8 teams having a chance is not the same as 2 teams having a chance.
 
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#212
Liper said:
A playoff solves all of these supposed problems.
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perhaps you haven't seen the problems we've discussed before... or perhaps we have different opinions. i'm guessing the latter and we can just leave it at that
 
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#213
oklavol said:
a 16 team playoff would always work. Sure some teams dont make in but they would have been beaten several times. This way no one is penalized for the tough conference, probably the 3 top teams from the SEC get in. Then if the big east can go deep in the playoff they really can claim their conference is better.
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16 teams means the 2 top teams play 4 extra games. I don't think you'll find anyone that wants to do that. 8 teams is the most you'll be able to pull off, in my opinion.
 
#214
#214
volfanbill said:
a 16 team playoff? are you crazy? hey kids, forget your finals this year, you're going to the 4 week playoffs! I know you've just played your hearts out and 60% of our starters have bum ankles and another 55% of you have bum knees, but we've still got potentially 4 games left! LET's go get 'em boys! btw, no christmas for ya'll either.
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Use some thinking, can you figure out how many teams would play 4 weeks in this scenario?
 
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#215
GAVol said:
Exactly . . . What people don't seem to get is that it's not about FINALITY. It's about FINANCE. Basketball needs a tournament to rake in the dough. Football doesn't.
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If it were simply about finance, we would have at least the "and 1" system. Football is leaving money on the table. A championship game played in the off week before the Super Bowl would be a financial bonanza.
 
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#216
allvol123 said:
you are blind if you think it has the same problems, 8 teams having a chance is not the same as 2 teams having a chance.
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The problem now is deciding who gets to play in the championship. The problem with a playoff would be deciding who get to play for the chance to be in the championship. How's that so different?
 
#217
#217
allvol123 said:
Use some thinking, can you figure out how many teams would play 4 weeks in this scenario?
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re-read my statement. I did say potentially four more games. That being said, at least 8 teams still go right through finals playing football. a completely banged up SEC would have no chance is a 16 team format
 
#218
#218
hatvol96 said:
If it were simply about finance, we would have at least the "and 1" system. Football is leaving money on the table. A championship game played in the off week before the Super Bowl would be a financial bonanza.
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Don't you think that if the Presidents could figure out how to slice up the pie the right way and keep the Bowl chairmen happy that the Plus 1 would have already happened though?

I think we took a major step toward the "and 1" system with the 5th BCS game being added.
 
#219
#219
kptvol said:
The problem now is deciding who gets to play in the championship. The problem with a playoff would be deciding who get to play for the chance to be in the championship. How's that so different?
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If you can't see it, then I can't explain it to you.
 
#220
#220
volfanbill said:
perhaps you haven't seen the problems we've discussed before... or perhaps we have different opinions. i'm guessing the latter and we can just leave it at that
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If the problem is finding out which teams to play, you always have a cutoff. That's what the regular season is for.

This conjecture is all fine and well, but the reason we don't have a playoff is because of anti-athletics presidents and good ole boy networks in purple jackets running the bowl system.

It's just a communistic case of the few making decisions by fiat for the many, i.e. the Soviet Union.
 
#221
#221
GAVol said:
Don't you think that if the Presidents could figure out how to slice up the pie the right way and keep the Bowl chairmen happy that the Plus 1 would have already happened though?

I think we took a major step toward the "and 1" system with the 5th BCS game being added.
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we did... we then took a serious step backwards by allowing teams to add an extra game to their regular season
 
#222
#222
volfanbill said:
re-read my statement. I did say potentially four more games. That being said, at least 8 teams still go right through finals playing football. a completely banged up SEC would have no chance is a 16 team format
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Keep looking for excuses and you will always find one.
 
#224
#224
volfanbill said:
we did... we then took a serious step backwards by allowing teams to add an extra game to their regular season
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....and if adding a 12th game doesn't prove it's about the money, nothing does. None of the coaches wanted to do it.
 
#225
#225
GAVol said:
Don't you think that if the Presidents could figure out how to slice up the pie the right way and keep the Bowl chairmen happy that the Plus 1 would have already happened though?

I think we took a major step toward the "and 1" system with the 5th BCS game being added.
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To answer your question, yes. If I'm an AD, I'm on my president every day to sign off on the extra game so I can pay for Title IX.
 
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