BCS Championship

#51
#51
ummm thanks for that. does that somehow prove USC isn't more deserving than Arkansas?
 
#52
#52
HogWild said:
Florida.
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While worlds better than ranking Arkansas 3, I still believe USC is better than Florida. What's funny is that when USC was 7-0 and Florida was 7-1, I considered Florida better. Now, UF looks like crap, and USC has been consistent on offense. The defense had a couple strange weeks for them.

USC, IMO, is the best 1 loss team. I like seeing arguments to the contrary, as long as they aren't clouded with bias.
 
#53
#53
oklavol said:
BCS doesnt work cause it assumes all conference champs are worthy of a BCS bowl. The Big East Champ or ACC champ can have 3 losses and they still get a BCS bowl game while the team they play may have one loss. I would rather see no. 1 vs no. 2, no. 3 vs no. 4, etc. Not a fan of these autmatic bids.
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The SEC champ could have 3 losses and still get a BCS bowl. The Big East, Pac 10, and Big 10 aren't as bad as the majority of SEC fans make them out to be. The ACC this year is worse than the Big East.
 
#54
#54
oklavol said:
BCS doesnt work cause it assumes all conference champs are worthy of a BCS bowl.

The Big East Champ or ACC champ can have 3 losses and they still get a BCS bowl game while the team they play may have one loss.

I would rather see no. 1 vs no. 2, no. 3 vs no. 4, etc. Not a fan of these autmatic bids.
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Of course the new meaning of BcS is "Big Crock of (well you know what)S"...
 
#55
#55
hmanvolfan said:
Of course the new meaning of BcS is "Big Crock of (well you know what)S"...
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Nothing in 2006 is determined yet. Once the regular season games are all done, then we can see if it's crap this year.

It's worked more often than not.
 
#56
#56
VolinArizona said:
Nothing in 2006 is determined yet. Once the regular season games are all done, then we can see if it's crap this year.

It's worked more often than not.
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I love ya to death VIA but I totally disagree that this format has worked more often than not. It is destined to fail simply because there are so many teams directly in line to dispute who should be in the "National Championship" game. Does the loser of the OSU/ Michigan game not have just as much of a right to play for the NC as any other 1 loss team in a major conference or an undefeated team in a non BcS conference (Boise State). Sticky wicket to say the least...
 
#58
#58
My rankings have the ACC as being the 6th-strongest conference this year behind (in order:) the Big East, SEC, Big Ten, Big XII, and Pac-10. The Big East is far and away at the top (possible 7 bowl teams out of an 8-team conference), and the SEC is second (possible 9 bowl teams out of 12).
 
#59
#59
hmanvolfan said:
I love ya to death VIA but I totally disagree that this format has worked more often than not. It is destined to fail simply because there are so many teams directly in line to dispute who should be in the "National Championship" game. Does the loser of the OSU/ Michigan game not have just as much of a right to play for the NC as any other 1 loss team in a major conference or an undefeated team in a non BcS conference (Boise State). Sticky wicket to say the least...
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I doubt the game will be close. Games like this rarely live up to the hype. Michigan or the Buckeyes will win decisively and there will be no need for a rematch. Regardless of who makes it into the national championship game, the only way there can really be any kind of dispute is if the winner is not an undefeated team. Beyond that, I'd say everything will work out just fine.
 
#60
#60
Ohio Vol said:
My rankings have the ACC as being the 6th-strongest conference this year behind (in order:) the Big East, SEC, Big Ten, Big XII, and Pac-10. The Big East is far and away at the top (possible 7 bowl teams out of an 8-team conference), and the SEC is second (possible 9 bowl teams out of 12).
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Rate with your eyes. The Big East is not that good.
 
#61
#61
milohimself said:
Rate with your eyes. The Big East is not that good.
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He is rating with his eyes. No one has seen any Big East teams play outside of West Virginia, Louisville, and Rutgers. I can't even be sure if the other teams really exist.
 
#62
#62
Cincy, UConn, Rutgers, Pitt, 'Cuse. A regular murderer's row. If WVU didn't beat UGA in the Sugar Bowl, nobody would care, and the Big East would again be on the brink of disbandment or getting their auto BCS bid revoked.
 
#63
#63
milohimself said:
Cincy, UConn, Rutgers, Pitt, 'Cuse. A regular murderer's row. If WVU didn't beat UGA in the Sugar Bowl, nobody would care, and the Big East would again be on the brink of disbandment or getting their auto BCS bid revoked.
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Yep. It's all Georgia's fault!
 
#64
#64
VolinArizona said:
They don't need to now. They play a round robin format.
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You know, I've been known to scorn the PAC-10 at times, but give credit where credit is due. When the 12th game came into effect, instead of scheduling one extra payday patsy (like most of the teams in our favorite conference), they added an extra conference game. A round-robin is the way it should be done; hats off to them.

(If I could draw it up the way I wanted, I think there would be eight major conferences of 10 teams each, with each conference playing a full round-robin. The eight conference champions would go into an eight-team playoff. Screw this at-large stuff; win every game or go home. Seed according to how successful and manly your out-of-conference schedule is. You play a I-AA, you're the 8th seed. Or something along those lines; maybe you make it 10 conferences and have a bye week. Something like that.)
 
#65
#65
I dunno about that D-IAA provision. Yeah, it's bad if you play more than one in a season or something, but it usually means huge financial bonuses for the smaller schools and some local pub. I just think it's good to at least schedule a tough non-conf game to counteract it.
 
#66
#66
Agreed, in the sense that the huge payoffs that small schools get for accepting the shaft bankroll a lot of their athletic programs. But maybe you make getting into the tournament based on winning your conference, and then seeding is exclusively based on your OOC performance -- you schedule at least one tough game and win, you'll be highly seeded. But schedule all easy teams, you're at the bottom. Something like that. At least there would be an incentive to play one good OOC game every year, and a disincentive to schedule the Citadel, as Auburn did in 2004.
 
#67
#67
hmanvolfan said:
I love ya to death VIA but I totally disagree that this format has worked more often than not. It is destined to fail simply because there are so many teams directly in line to dispute who should be in the "National Championship" game. Does the loser of the OSU/ Michigan game not have just as much of a right to play for the NC as any other 1 loss team in a major conference or an undefeated team in a non BcS conference (Boise State). Sticky wicket to say the least...
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You're definitely right that it seems destined to fail and burn in flames this season.
 
#68
#68
VolinArizona said:
You're definitely right that it seems destined to fail and burn in flames this season.
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maybe, maybe not.

in the end, you'll have one undefeated Big 10 champ.

then, after that, you'll have a choice of........
a 1 loss Big 10 runner up
possibly a 1 loss SEC champ
a two loss Big 12 champ.
possibly a one loss Pac 10 champ
Possibly a one loss Notre Dame
Possibly an undefeated or 1 loss big east champ.

A lot of "possibly's" in there to say that it won't work again.

ARK and FL both have legit shots at winning the SEC with only 1 loss. either of them do that, then they are deserving of consideration.
TX is out regardless.
USC is the one that can throw this thing in to chaos.
If they win out, they are in as far as i can tell.
lose a game and they're out...but a lot depends on who they lose to...lose to Cal, good for ARK if they can win out. Lose to ND, Good for ND, especially if Mich wins this weekend...ARK is likely out, even if they win out.

If you're a FLor ARK fan, you want USC to lose to Cal and USC to beat ND. if that happens, a one loss SEC champ likely goes to Glendale.

If USC were to lose to ND and either UF lose the SEC CG and ARK lose to LSU prior to the SEC CG, then ND is likely in the NT game.

And if FL loses the SEC CG, ARK loses to LSU, ND loses to USC and USC loses to Cal....

rematch of the OSU/Mich game in Glendale, or TX might sneak in, but i doubt it.

the only fly in the ointment is if Rutgers wins out...the computers love them. but would the humans pull up the slack and vote 'em high enough? Over a one loss Mich/OSU team?

See...lots of football left...worst case for the BCS is is to have Rutgers undefeated Big East Champs, FL with one loss as SEC Champs and USC with one loss as Pac 10 champs. that would be bad for the BCS.
 
#69
#69
Don't start looking forward too soon...if you loose to either Florida or LSU...you won't do anything...Florida will win
 
#72
#72
ah ha! i though that's why we had that handy "quote" button????
 
#75
#75
If ND meets Ohio State in the national championship, I think there is an excellent chance that the Irish will lose by 50+.
 
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