BCS Debate

#76
#76
Why can wins matter but losses not matter, or vice versa? It's a double standard.

Oklahoma State played a fairly tougher schedule than Bama, has a couple more quality wins, or however you want to phrase it, but a much, much MUCH worse loss.

More people than not felt that a loss to a .500 team outweighs the margin they built in quality wins, and I can't say I disagree. That's just the way it goes.

I am not psyched about the game, I have a large issue with the system which would allow that game to determine a national champion, but they system itself accomplished what it said it would.
 
#77
#77
rjd970 said:
Bama gets in by winning a popularity contest and having the best loss. It had nothing to do with who they beat on the field.

If better wins really mattered, OSU goes no question.
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Alabama is playing in the NC because they are the #2 team in the nation.
 
#79
#79
milohimself said:
Why can wins matter but losses not matter, or vice versa? It's a double standard.

Oklahoma State played a fairly tougher schedule than Bama, has a couple more quality wins, or however you want to phrase it, but a much, much MUCH worse loss.

More people than not felt that a loss to a .500 team outweighs the margin they built in quality wins, and I can't say I disagree. That's just the way it goes.

I am not psyched about the game, I have a large issue with the system which would allow that game to determine a national champion, but they system itself accomplished what it said it would.
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Better wins vs. better loss is a wash IMO arguing one as more important than the other is pure opinion. From there you have to consider things that are not opinion based.

Yeah the system itself gets it right every year.
 
#80
#80
Technically, the BCS will always accomplish its goal of matching #1 vs #2. It would be impossible for anything else to happen.
 
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#81
#81
Champ22 said:
Alabama is playing in the NC because they are the #2 team in the nation.
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This is only possible in the worst postseason system for any sport at any level of competition, from elementary school through the pros.
 
#82
#82
milohimself said:
Why can wins matter but losses not matter, or vice versa? It's a double standard.

Oklahoma State played a fairly tougher schedule than Bama, has a couple more quality wins, or however you want to phrase it, but a much, much MUCH worse loss.

More people than not felt that a loss to a .500 team outweighs the margin they built in quality wins, and I can't say I disagree. That's just the way it goes.

I am not psyched about the game, I have a large issue with the system which would allow that game to determine a national champion, but they system itself accomplished what it said it would.
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the penalty for losing is greater than the reward for winning. i can agree with that to a point.

they both lost one game. OSU's wins are better, bama's loss is better?

when you say it that way, it just sounds dumb. but that's where we are with this.

basically, if you're going to lose, lose to the right team....at the right time.
 
#83
#83
With the BCS, that's really what it does boil down to.

And I don't think you can really point to one win Oklahoma State had that was better than any of Alabama's. You have to put the Hogs on par with any team in the Big XII aside from the Cowboys themselves. Oklahoma State just had a couple more.
 
#84
#84
The system is awful. This would have been the perfect year for a plus-one. Then again, iirc, Mike Slive proposed such a system in 2008, and it was.bb promptly vetoed by the other conferences.
 
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