BCS game showed exactly why...
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I think this is more of an indictment on the BCS than on Notre Dame or it's players, collectively or individually. The BCS has no business letting Notre Dame in without ND having earned their way in by way of some sort of Preliminary Championship Game. Bama had to go put it on the line BIG TIME against UGA, and was at SERIOUS risk to lose that game, but Notre Dame waltzes through a season filled with big name teams that underachieved big time and they were only tested once or twice. I'm glad the BCS only has 1 more year to rear it's ugly head, because it's an awful system, recently at least.
I think it's bullsh!t that ND got in over Stanford. I think it's horsesh!t that LSU and Bama got to play last year. If you don't win your Conference Championship game, you shouldn't get to compete for the National Championship, simple as that. Were LSU and Bama the 2 best teams last year? Probably, but both of them did not win the division, and only one had to put their championship hopes on the line while the other sat back comfortably with nothing to lose, same as Notre Dame did this year.
Anyway, end rant.
I think it's bullsh!t that ND got in over Stanford. I think it's horsesh!t that LSU and Bama got to play last year. If you don't win your Conference Championship game, you shouldn't get to compete for the National Championship, simple as that. Were LSU and Bama the 2 best teams last year? Probably, but both of them did not win the division, and only one had to put their championship hopes on the line while the other sat back comfortably with nothing to lose, same as Notre Dame did this year.
Anyway, end rant.
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And Coach Saban is not only Catholic but also has a mass performed prior to every game. How many non-catholic uni's have a mass instituted by a coach? These idjits would probably be stupid enough to wear that against LSU too!
That said, the guy who came up with those shirts grew up in the South, graduated from Georgia State University, and lives in Atlanta. He's a Notre Dame fan by bandwagonism, imo, and is the CEO of an online sports retailer. His online shop markets such classy shirts as "Ann Arbor is a Whore," "FUSC," "gators," "Volunqueers," "Oklahomo," "Puke" (Duke), "I'd rather be in a Penn State shower than a Michigan Fan" "Criminoles" (Seminoles), on his front page.
This gem of a man and his rinky dink online shop are not worth getting upset over.
I also don't think those outside of the South realize just how offensive these stereotypes are to southerners. Every region gets made fun of but other than New Yorkers (NYC not the state of New York) and New Jeseyians who share similar levels of constant abuse and stereotypes in common with us, the rest of the country hasn't suffered the same level constant ridicule that the South has suffered in terms of media stereotypes and don't quite get that we're not only the most diverse region in the US but about a thousand miles past over it when it comes to this nonsense.
It's just a shame that a small portion of ND fans are so classless but everyone's got them.
At least Oregon fans were not just witty but also showed they wanted to extend the hand of football friendship/relationship building with other fans when they showed up at Neyland with "We hate Kiffin too!" tee-shirts.
There's a HUGE difference when you compare Teo as a LB for ND and TEBOW as a QB in the SEC.
Very simple: TEBOW demonstrated on the field that he belonged and deserved to be called one of the GREATEST players in the history of college FB. There is NO DEBATE here...He proved it week in and week out in the toughest conference in the game. Like him or not, call him names or not--you cannot argue with both his intangibles as a team leader and his performance on the field! EVERY one on this board would have LOVED to have had him at UT--and our coaching staff (CPF) chose J. Crompton over him...
Hardly ANYONE outside of ND football knew Teo before the middle of this season, and he won those awards solely because he played for ND--he would've been 2nd or 3rd string for Bama...
Tim Tebow's performance created his own hype...and the jury is still out on whether Tebow will be able to make it in the NFL, but stay tuned. I for one hope that he does--and EVERY one of you guys on here who has a daughter could only PRAY that she would find a guy like Tebow. :salute:
I am not taking up for Notre Dame, but I don't think that anybody would have given Alabama much of a game on that particular night. Notre Dame did beat Mich. St, Michigan, Miami(by 38 points), Oklahoma(by 17), Southern Cal, BYU, Wake Forest(by 38), Boston College, Navy, Pitt, and Purdue.
And here is the reason why they were chosen over Stanford. On Sat. October 13, Notre Dame beat Stanford 20-13. I think that on paper they belonged in the game. They don't play an SEC schedule, but they aren't in the SEC.
He's a 4th round draft choice and a chance.
The fact of the matter is that the elite (for now) program in the SEC exposed him--
1) The speed of the game left him out of position to make plays and he couldn't make tackles;
2) He wasn't strong enough to tackle RBs who were big, strong, and fast; and
3) He isn't physical enough (right now) to get off blocks in time to get into position to make tackles.
Even when he had blitzed and came through the line untouched and hit Yeldon--A TRUE FRESHMAN RB IN THE SEC--He couldn't make the play. I know that I'm gonna get hammered for this, but YES--that one play is extremely significant in his evaluation.
If you think that an NFL team is gonna draft him high and give him a huge contract worth millions--no way.
An Al Wilson or Jerrod MAYO he is not! :salute:
Can't argue with you--they were undefeated and were gonna get the shot.
However, Stanford--arguably--got hosed at ND. If they play on a neutral field--Stanford wins. Pitt beat them every way imaginable except on the scoreboard--and missed THE game-winning FG in OT.
Michigan and Mich. State are not great programs right now. This year's Miami team was one of the worst Miami teams in over 20 years. Oklahoma??? Just how bad did A&M slaughter them??? USCw ended up 7-6....
BYU, Wake, BC (another program that was very bad), Navy (are you kidding me), etc...etc....
Like I said--I don't disagree with you about ND getting their chance. ND should be forced to join a conference and play a conference schedule.
At least the 4 team playoff for 2014 will keep teams like this year's ND out of THE NC game in the future.
GO VOLS! We WILL be back soon! :salute:
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Musberger and Herbstreit kept touting the line that "Te'o only missed 2 tackles all year."
I watched enough of ND to know that Te'o only missed two tackles because he was often blocked right out of the play. The guy is a pretty sure tackler most of the time, but he can't shed a block to save his life.
I watched enough of ND to know that Te'o only missed two tackles because he was often blocked right out of the play. The guy is a pretty sure tackler most of the time, but he can't shed a block to save his life.
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If you want to go over a schedule game by game , check this 12-0 one out. Here are the teams defeated and their final records:
Syracuse 8-4
Florida 10-2
Houston 3-8
Auburn 3-8
Georgia 9-3
Alabama 7-5
So. Car 1-10
UAB 4-7
Arkansas 9-3
Kentucky 7-5
Vandy 2-9
Miss. St. 8-5
Opponents record 71-69. Then it was off to the championship game, and a 3rd string qb. I would compare Tennessee's victory over Arkansas to ND's over Stanford, and Tennessee's victory over Florida by a missed field goal to ND's win over Pitt.
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Al Wilson was a junior the year we got obliterated by Nebraska in the bowl game. Al Wilson could not catch or tackle the Nebraska RBs either. Jerod Mayo got destroyed by Alabama 41-17 and got ran over,around, and through by Alabama. It's a team game and Teo's team did not match up but he is still a NFL prospect.
I don't know where you're coming from and why you felt the need to compare the 1998 VOLS with the 2012 ND blathering Irish--but I'm calling Bullsh*t on your attempts to compare teams and schedules! And comparing 2012 Pitt to the 1998 Fla Gators is one of the stupidest statements I've ever read on this site!
Nobody in 1998 said that we deserved to be in the NC game. We were lucky to beat Arky because of Stoerner's stumble and fumble. FSU beat an extremely talented and good Florida team 23-12 with THE SAME 3rd string QB that played against us! Funny how people forget that fact. In fact, it was used as an argument for WHY FSU was gonna beat us...FSU steamrolled the Gators and were guaranteed to streamroll US--the lucky and undeserving VOLS. Everyone expected the outcome of the 1998 NC game to go as the 2012 NC game went with FSU beating us like Bama beat ND.
No one gave us any credit like they did ND in this year's hype. No one gloated over Al Wilson like they did #5 for ND. FSU had the #1 ranked D in the country and would rip our hearts out and dominate us like Bama did ND this year.
There's just one thing that proved we belonged: WE already were SEC champions and WE WON the game! We got the job done against the #1 defense in the nation. We did lose some turnovers in the game, too. We did it without our OC that we'd had all year! We did it with Randy Sanders calling plays for his first game EVER against the #1 D in the land.
Don't even try to compare the 1998 VOLS with the 2012 ND Irish. The 1998 VOLS would have put the beat down on this 2012 ND team in the same fashion that Bama did.
I've said it before and I'll say it again--better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're stupid than open your mouth and remove all doubt!
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Like I said--I expected to get hammered for making that statement about teo, but I still stand behind it. Time will tell...
and I do realize that NEBRASKA did beat us pretty good Al Wilson was a JR...but you neglect to remember that the Wilson-led Defense held Nebraska to <100 yds in that game in the first half, and I believe it was <50 yds rushing. [Bama had more than that in their second drive].
Chavis played 8 in the box like ND was trying to play Bama in the first half with a 3-deep secondary. Nebraska hit some passes to the TE, and I believe that we had a D-Lineman hurt at the end of the first half and we went back to a base 4-3--which allowed Nebraska to be more effective running the ball and they pummeled us in the second half.
However, if you think you've just disproved what I said about Teo--NO, you did not and I will not agree. Al Wilson's complete college career of playing in the SEC says otherwise. Al could get off of blocks--Al Wilson did blow up RBs--and Al Wilson did tackle in that Nebraska game. Al Wilson could cover TEs and RBs out of the backfield and his whole career at UT proved it. The same goes for Jerrod Mayo....
So go try to convince someone else that Teo's performance in the NC game is comparable to Al Wilson's and Mayo's performances....:salute:
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