BCS Standings 11/23

#26
#26
BigPapaVol said:
I don't at all. Their conference is pretty well proving that it's all O and zero D. Championships don't happen that way.
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I'm not so worried about human opinion as I am about computer opinion. It has pushed logic out of the way to take the number 3 team in the country over number 1 for the title.
 
#27
#27
BigPapaVol said:
I think the vast majority of voters know that the Big 12 is a sham of a conference, hence those guys getting "big wins" over one another really isn't an example of big wins. OK St built it's reputation by beating Mizz (No D). TX built theirs by beating OU's awful D. Tech beat TX who has no D and probably lived off home field. OU now built its rep by killing No D Tech. All the rep is hype.

I don't like any of the Big 12 guys to beat even UGA, certainly not UF or UA.
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UF and Bama have built their reps this year beating up on each other, also. What large out of conference wins can the SEC boast of this year? Zero.
 
#29
#29
tvolsfan said:
And the Big 12's big OOC wins?
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None. However, I am not the one saying that OU and Texas don't deserve to play for the National Title based on the fact that they built their records and rankings only facing competition within their own conference.
 
#30
#30
Fair enough, but I think it would be much better to give someone else a chance than to have a rematch. The best OOC win is probably USC over OSU. They have a case, too. In the end, I find it hard to turn away from the conference who has won the last 2 years.
 
#31
#31
therealUT said:
UF and Bama have built their reps this year beating up on each other, also. What large out of conference wins can the SEC boast of this year? Zero.
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If we're talking about OOC. Texas & OU have nothing better to boast about.

Texas:

Florida Atlantic - W (52-10)
UTEP - W (42-13)
Arkansas - W (52-10)
Rice - W (52-10)

Oklahoma:

Chattanooga - W (57-2)
Cincinnati - W (52-26)
Washington - W (55-14)
TCU - W (35-10)

Florida:

Hawaii - W (56-10)
Miami - W (26-3)
Citadel - W (70-19)
Florida State

Alabama:

Clemson - W (34-10)
Tulane - W (20-6)
Western Kentucky - W (41-7)
Arkansas State - W (35-0)
 
#32
#32
therealUT said:
None. However, I am not the one saying that OU and Texas don't deserve to play for the National Title based on the fact that they built their records and rankings only facing competition within their own conference.
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What do you say to Florida if Texas beats OU again?

Texas beat OU head to head. I think OU is better, but they shouldn't have lost the biggest game of the year.
 
#33
#33
XtennesseeX said:
If we're talking about OOC. Texas & OU have nothing better to boast about.

Texas:

Florida Atlantic - W (52-10)
UTEP - W (42-13)
Arkansas - W (52-10)
Rice - W (52-10)

Oklahoma:

Chattanooga - W (57-2)
Cincinnati - W (52-26)
Washington - W (55-14)
TCU - W (35-10)

Florida:

Hawaii - W (56-10)
Miami - W (26-3)
Citadel - W (70-19)
Florida State

Alabama:

Clemson - W (34-10)
Tulane - W (20-6)
Western Kentucky - W (41-7)
Arkansas State - W (35-0)
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Refer to previous post.
 
#36
#36
I'd rather let a team from another conference who has destroyed everyone since that Ole Miss game than have a rematch. UT beat OU, they shouldn't have to do it again.
 
#37
#37
therealUT said:
You tell UF "better luck against Ole Miss next time."
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So, you give OU two chances to beat Texas, & not give Florida one chance? Even though Florida won a National Championship two years ago when the same argument against them was being put in place.

As I said, I feel OU is better, but they had their chance against Texas.
 
#38
#38
therealUT said:
None. However, I am not the one saying that OU and Texas don't deserve to play for the National Title based on the fact that they built their records and rankings only facing competition within their own conference.
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Who has Texas played out of conference that's worth anything? Arkansas?

Everyone seemed to think Michigan and Ohio State deserved a rematch a couple of years ago. That didn't work out so well.
 
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#40
#40
XtennesseeX said:
If we're talking about OOC. Texas & OU have nothing better to boast about.

Texas:

Florida Atlantic - W (52-10)
UTEP - W (42-13)
Arkansas - W (52-10)
Rice - W (52-10)

Oklahoma:

Chattanooga - W (57-2)
Cincinnati - W (52-26)
Washington - W (55-14)
TCU - W (35-10)

Florida:

Hawaii - W (56-10)
Miami - W (26-3)
Citadel - W (70-19)
Florida State

Alabama:

Clemson - W (34-10)
Tulane - W (20-6)
Western Kentucky - W (41-7)
Arkansas State - W (35-0)
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Seriously. Who would have thought Clemson would end up being so terrible? Also, who would expect Miami and Florida State would be no better than TCU or Cincinnati? I have a hard time faulting the Gators for their schedule.
 
#41
#41
tvolsfan said:
I'd rather let a team from another conference who has destroyed everyone since that Ole Miss game than have a rematch. UT beat OU, they shouldn't have to do it again.
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I agree. That rematch would be the fail.

We don't have to worry. The SEC will be represented in the title game by the Florida/Alabama winner.
 
#42
#42
OU is at #3 by a very small margin behind Texas. I could see them jumping ahead of Texas in the BCS standings even if both win next week, due to who each plays.
 
#43
#43
Out of Texas Tech, Texas, and OU, who goes to the big 12 champ if they all win out? Is it who is at the top in the BCS?
 
#45
#45
3L with debt said:
I agree. That rematch would be the fail.

We don't have to worry. The SEC will be represented in the title game by the Florida/Alabama winner.
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I didn't read all those posts very carefully, but it looks to me that the rematch between Texas and OU in BCS national championship game becomes very possible IF:
1. both Texas and OU wins out
2. Florida beats FSU and Bama
Then it comes down to whether Florida can jump either Texas or OU, and I would say NO. Florida is falling way behind because of computer ranking. Fl (.780), Texas (.960), OU (.900). If the above two assumptions hold, Fl will be in top 2 in both Harris poll and Coach's poll with no problem, but it really doesn't matter, because the difference in computer ranking is really too big for Florida to overcome.

So my conclusion is if Bama beats Florida, Bama plays Texas/OU in BCSCG, if Florida beats Bama, Texas and OU rematch in BCSCG, which is certainly what I don't want to see. What do you all think?
 
#47
#47
i'm just trying to sort this out. OU beat Cincinnati and TCU. Cincinnati currently sits at #16 in the BCS rankings and TCU #14. Yet OU's OOC schedule is weak?

Hopefully I'm just confused reading this since I basically just scrolled through it.
 
#48
#48
volfanbill said:
i'm just trying to sort this out. OU beat Cincinnati and TCU. Cincinnati currently sits at #16 in the BCS rankings and TCU #14. Yet OU's OOC schedule is weak?

Hopefully I'm just confused reading this since I basically just scrolled through it.
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It's not weak, but Texas' is. I don't think the Sooners (or anyone else in the country) have a schedule strong enough to warrant an intraconference rematch for the BCS Championship.

Hell, OU vs Texas rematch woudn't make any more sense than an NC of: OU vs. Texas Tech, Texas Tech vs. Texas, or Alabama vs Florida.
 
#49
#49
kptvol said:
It's not weak, but Texas' is. I don't think the Sooners (or anyone else in the country) have a schedule strong enough to warrant an intraconference rematch for the BCS Championship.
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i'll agree with that. but I don't think you could ask the sooners for a much more difficult OOC schedule.
 
#50
#50
volfanbill said:
i'll agree with that. but I don't think you could ask the sooners for a much more difficult OOC schedule.
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Agreed, but when planning an OOC schedule, would you look at Miami and FSU and say that isn't really strong? I'm not sure I want to penalize them for that schedule.
 
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