Beacon piece: DeShields still deciding

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he couldn't decide if he wanted to praise her or burn her at the stake in that mess of a post, lol
 
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bballnut90 said:
I think it's absolutely in Diamond's best interest to go pro now if she has her degree finished up. What's the benefit in staying? Playing pro ball she can make $150-200k+ in the year she would've played as a 5th year senior, and she has a chance to be a #1 overall pick. Next year, the draft is much deeper and her stock could go either way. She also seems to be a player who enjoys the spotlight, and in the W she'll be brought up in every rookie conversation all summer, plus she'll get to play with a top point guard in Moriah Jefferson.


If she stays at Tennessee, the only logic behind it is if she thinks there's a good chance to make a Final Four or win a title. Problem is, Tennessee wasn't a top 25 team this year and even with improvements, a Final Four is going to be a massive stretch for this crew with Holly at the helm. And no one is touching Connecticut next year with the roster Geno is putting together, so I don't see any way that Tennessee realistically competes for a title unless some sort of 180 happens with Holly.

Her game is better suited for the pros and she'll have better opportunity to develop her game than she will at Tennessee.

Also, this may not be a popular opinion, but I think Tennessee will be better in the long run without her in the lineup next year. I don't think she's a toxic player, but a lot of times she doesn't seem to be in flow with her teammates and will have poor shot selection. She isn't a very good shooter and I'd rather see more shots go to Nared or Russell. Also, her body language on the court isn't great, and most of her interviews are very "'me" rather than "team." She gets harped on probably more than anyone, and a lot of it isn't deserved, but I think without her it will give players like Westbrook and Davis opportunities to play big minutes from day 1 and develop into great players early in their career.

A lineup of Russell, Nared, Davis, Cooper and Westbrook could be very very good and pave way for a positive outlook in 2018-19 and beyond.
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You do make excellent points but I cant agree with you on saying Diamond isn't a great shooter. You do know her and Nared both shot 42.3% from the field not to mention Diamond has one of the best mid range jumpers in the game.

Your lineup consisting of Nared at PF i honestly like her at the 3 better. We need someone like Green at that PF position for great rebounding purposes something we struggled with this season. Jamie isn't that physical crashing the boards which she struggled at from time to time playing against more physical players. With Green and Russell in the paint that should make us more physical and give us a player simalar to what we had with Graves at PF. I like Nared on the perimeter and it will help her get her prepared to the next level where she will be a wing player.

I would LOVE to have Diamond back she's a great leader. Did you see the article where she was pushing our Freshman and other players to work hard during practice. That stood out to me she wouldn't let anyone half ass.
 
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Diamond is a terrific shooter .The offense does not take full advantage of her skills.She does take some bad shots at times which skews the perception that she is not a good shooter.Put her in Notre Dame /UConn/Stanford offensive systems and she would standout as the best player in all of the USA.

I do agree that it would be in Diamond's best interest yo go pro because of the non offensive system run by the Lady Vols.Hope she returns but if she logically thinks this decision thru ,she will go pro.
 
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madtownvol said:
Uh, its called reading what people post.

You might want to take a breath and relax a bit before you bust a vessel.
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Wow ...not anywhere near busting a vessel.My blood pressure reading at the moment is 100/65.Do not need to take a breath either since you are the one telling me and others that have a different opinion what to think and how to express it ....that takes no effort at all.
 
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alexvol said:
Diamond is a terrific shooter .The offense does not take full advantage of her skills.She does take some bad shots at times which skews the perception that she is not a good shooter.Put her in Notre Dame /UConn/Stanford offensive systems and she would standout as the best player in all of the USA.

I do agree that it would be in Diamond's best interest yo go pro because of the non offensive system run by the Lady Vols.Hope she returns but if she logically thinks this decision thru ,she will go pro.
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I'm not sure where "terrific" falls in the ranking of shooters. I do know that any perimeter shooter that wants to be considered as playing at a high level has the goal of 50% FG, 40% 3-PT, & 90% FT.

As far as putting her in one of those offensive systems......I think her percentages would go up, just like any of the other LVs would also. It is a matter of taking open shots vs contested shots.

My question is: Do the LVs not run offense similar to these teams because they don't have the talent, they don't have a staff to implement one, or they don't want to because they cannot showcase their individual skills in a set offense?
 
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HoopDR said:
I'm not sure where "terrific" falls in the ranking of shooters. I do know that any perimeter shooter that wants to be considered as playing at a high level has the goal of 50% FG, 40% 3-PT, & 90% FT.

As far as putting her in one of those offensive systems......I think her percentages would go up, just like any of the other LVs would also. It is a matter of taking open shots vs contested shots.

My question is: Do the LVs not run offense similar to these teams because they don't have the talent, they don't have a staff to implement one, or they don't want to because they cannot showcase their individual skills in a set offense?
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You would need to ask that question of Holly Warlick.IMO it is because Holly doesn't have the x's and O's expertise to do it.
 
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My opinion: If she stays, she will be the star of the show. If she goes pro, I believe she won't get the playing time or recognition she is used to. I sure don't see her as a #1 pick.

In terms of development, she is probably better to leave or go somewhere else for a grad year. In terms of being big dog, she would take a back seat for awhile in the pros. Not sure she would like that. I can't see her fitting in with most leading college teams as a grad student.. I think she'd enjoy being a mentor to the new freshmen if she stays.

It is an evaluation that only she can make, and we should wish her the best, whichever it is.
 
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My opinion: If she stays, she will be the star of the show. If she goes pro, I believe she won't get the playing time or recognition she is used to. I sure don't see her as a #1 pick.

In terms of development, she is probably better to leave or go somewhere else for a grad year. In terms of being big dog, she would take a back seat for awhile in the pros. Not sure she would like that. I can't see her fitting in with most leading college teams as a grad student.. I think she'd enjoy being a mentor to the new freshmen if she stays.

It is an evaluation that only she can make, and we should wish her the best, whichever it is.
 
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bballnut90 said:
I think it's absolutely in Diamond's best interest to go pro now if she has her degree finished up. What's the benefit in staying? Playing pro ball she can make $150-200k+ in the year she would've played as a 5th year senior, and she has a chance to be a #1 overall pick. Next year, the draft is much deeper and her stock could go either way. She also seems to be a player who enjoys the spotlight, and in the W she'll be brought up in every rookie conversation all summer, plus she'll get to play with a top point guard in Moriah Jefferson.


If she stays at Tennessee, the only logic behind it is if she thinks there's a good chance to make a Final Four or win a title. Problem is, Tennessee wasn't a top 25 team this year and even with improvements, a Final Four is going to be a massive stretch for this crew with Holly at the helm. And no one is touching Connecticut next year with the roster Geno is putting together, so I don't see any way that Tennessee realistically competes for a title unless some sort of 180 happens with Holly.

Her game is better suited for the pros and she'll have better opportunity to develop her game than she will at Tennessee.

Also, this may not be a popular opinion, but I think Tennessee will be better in the long run without her in the lineup next year. I don't think she's a toxic player, but a lot of times she doesn't seem to be in flow with her teammates and will have poor shot selection. She isn't a very good shooter and I'd rather see more shots go to Nared or Russell. Also, her body language on the court isn't great, and most of her interviews are very "'me" rather than "team." She gets harped on probably more than anyone, and a lot of it isn't deserved, but I think without her it will give players like Westbrook and Davis opportunities to play big minutes from day 1 and develop into great players early in their career.

A lineup of Russell, Nared, Davis, Cooper and Westbrook could be very very good and pave way for a positive outlook in 2018-19 and beyond.
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Check out the salaries in wnba. Not that great. They have to go overseas to make that kind of money.
 
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Picks 1-4 in 2017 draft make $51,591 base salary... WNBA season is 5 months long. That leave 7 months for other opportunities. Not sure what kinda of salary she could secure for overseas, but $100,000 may be possible... maybe not as a rookie though...
 
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$52 grand is a nice chunk of money in 4.5 months, especially as a 21/22 year old. She'll also be able to sign an overseas contract and likely make another $100-200k during the 7 month offseason. If I'm 22 and the opportunity is to go back to school for a year and start a master's degree that I may never use, or start my pro career and make $150-250k instead, the choice is a no brainer for me.
 
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bballnut90 said:
$52 grand is a nice chunk of money in 4.5 months, especially as a 21/22 year old. She'll also be able to sign an overseas contract and likely make another $100-200k during the 7 month offseason. If I'm 22 and the opportunity is to go back to school for a year and start a master's degree that I may never use, or start my pro career and make $150-250k instead, the choice is a no brainer for me.
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also play overseas in the same year? Yea, more money--but who wants to play basketball--or any sport--12 months a year? Good way to burn out or get injured. If she can get significantly more money overseas, she ought to think seriously of doing that. Would be fun. Diamond's biggest bb problem is that she is a very inconsistent shooter: too many misses, too many games with a low shooting percentage.
 
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armchair said:
also play overseas in the same year? Yea, more money--but who wants to play basketball--or any sport--12 months a year? Good way to burn out or get injured. If she can get significantly more money overseas, she ought to think seriously of doing that. Would be fun. Diamond's biggest bb problem is that she is a very inconsistent shooter: too many misses, too many games with a low shooting percentage.
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Most of the top women players do just that- play the WNBA season and then play in Europe, Russia or China.

It is a grind and one reason that Taurasi's Russian team paid her to skip the WNBA season two or three years ago.

But that is the life for women pro's if they want to maximize their earning potential.
 
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I think DD will go pro. If she stays they may make the final 4, but with our coaching I would not count on it.
 
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