Beckett could be the best postseason pitcher ever...

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This dude just keys in and the other team is completely helpless.......Go Sox!!!!!!!!!!!


Strike out the side to start the Series. Very nice.
 
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Off the top of my head? Whitey Ford. Sandy Koufax. Mariano Rivera. John Smoltz. Dave Stewart.

This is Beckett's 10th postseason game ever. Calling him the best ever is a bit of a reach.
 
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ask the diamondbacks about rivera... no way he makes the list of greatest ever
 
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CBC, Beckett is well on his way to being a postseason pitching legend. He very well could be one of the tops all time... I definitely wouldn't want to have to face him right now, even if i had the NL All-Star Team.
 
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Not that I care about the World Series this year, or even like the Red Sox, but I have to agree with Charles here. Beckett has been nothing but a stone-cold killer in the playoffs his whole career, and when it's all said and done, I am willing to wager that he'd be at least one of the best 2-3 post season pitchers of all-time.
 
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btw, i could be wrong about this, and i'm too busy watching the game to look it up, but wasn't whitey ford like 10(maybe 11)-8 in the postseason?
 
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volfanbill said:
ask the diamondbacks about rivera... no way he makes the list of greatest ever
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One blown save in 76 appearances. Even Koufax gave up a run every now and again. Rivera has a 0.77 ERA in 117 innings, which is basically half of Beckett's ERA in twice as many innings. I loathe the Yankees, but if I'm making an all-time postseason team, Rivera's the guy I want walking out of the bullpen.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
One blown save in 76 appearances. Even Koufax gave up a run every now and again. Rivera has a 0.77 ERA in 117 innings, which is basically half of Beckett's ERA in twice as many innings. I loathe the Yankees, but if I'm making an all-time postseason team, Rivera's the guy I want walking out of the bullpen.
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he did a great job closing out the Red Sox in 2004 as well
 
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volfanbill said:
btw, i could be wrong about this, and i'm too busy watching the game to look it up, but wasn't whitey ford like 10(maybe 11)-8 in the postseason?
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Sure, his record was 10-8. But he had an ERA of 2.71 in 22 games. I'm not saying Beckett's not a great pitcher; I'm just saying calling him "the best postseason pitcher ever" after only 9 games is way premature.
 
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i go by wins, not stats, and again, CBC said the magic word, "could". and Beckett without a doubt could become the greatest postseason pitcher. He's backed it up so far
 
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volfanbill said:
i go by wins, not stats, and again, CBC said the magic word, "could". and Beckett without a doubt could become the greatest postseason pitcher. He's backed it up so far
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Oh, if you want to be that simplistic, then here are your greatest postseason pitchers of all time:

Code: 
Rank	Player	  	W	  	IP
1.	John Smoltz		15		207.0
2.	Tom Glavine		14		218.3
 	Andy Pettitte		14		218.3
4.	Roger Clemens		12		199.0
5.	Greg Maddux		11		194.0
6.	Whitey Ford		10		146.0
 	Curt Schilling		10		128.0
 	Dave Stewart		10		133.0
 	David Wells		10		125.0
10.	Orlando Hernandez	9		106.0
 	Catfish Hunter		9		132.3
 
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i'll give you a hint....

Millar led off the ninth with a walk... Roberts pinch ran, then stole second, Bill Mueller then hit the game tying single.... all you have to do for me is NAME THAT PITCHER!
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Oh, if you want to be that simplistic, then here are your greatest postseason pitchers of all time:

Code: 
Rank	Player	  	W	  	IP
1.	John Smoltz		15		207.0
2.	Tom Glavine		14		218.3
 	Andy Pettitte		14		218.3
4.	Roger Clemens		12		199.0
5.	Greg Maddux		11		194.0
6.	Whitey Ford		10		146.0
 	Curt Schilling		10		128.0
 	Dave Stewart		10		133.0
 	David Wells		10		125.0
10.	Orlando Hernandez	9		106.0
 	Catfish Hunter		9		132.3
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weak comeback, but you know losses get included. 10-8 in no way gets my nod for one of the greatest., but i'll rephrase... wins and losses are what matters.
 
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volfanbill said:
What happened in Game 4?
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Torre brought him in for two full innings for the about first time all year. Like bringing in a starter on three days' rest, that rarely works anymore. Torre should have known better.

If you want to pull two appearances out of 76 and pretend that that invalidates the fact that Rivera has been the most dominant closer in the postseason over the last decade, and probably the single most important factor in the Yankees' run of four WS championships -- well, that's your prerogative, I guess.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Torre brought him in for two full innings for the about first time all year. Like bringing in a starter on three days' rest, that rarely works anymore. Torre should have known better.

If you want to pull two appearances out of 76 and pretend that that invalidates the fact that Rivera has been the most dominant closer in the postseason over the last decade, and probably the single most important factor in the Yankees' run of four WS championships -- well, that's your prerogative, I guess.
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mariano rivera is good, but the most important factor to the yankees? please.... that's laughable
 
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i take the many many position players that helped the yankees to their postseason runs of the past 11 years over rivera any day
 
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I just tuned in and though a slow pitch softball game had broken out.
 
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volfanbill said:
weak comeback, but you know losses get included. 10-8 in no way gets my nod for one of the greatest., but i'll rephrase... wins and losses are what matters.
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You said you didn't want to evaluate pitchers based on "stats." But all right, here's won-loss percentage, just so we can include losses:

Code: 
Won-Loss %
Rank	Player	  	wlp	  	IP
1.	Jack Coombs		1.000		53.3
 	Rawly Eastwick		1.000		15.7
 	Lefty Gomez		1.000		50.3
 	Sterling Hitchcock	1.000		30.7
 	Jerry Koosman		1.000		40.3
 	Roy Oswalt		1.000		46.7
 	Monte Pearson		1.000		35.7
 	Herb Pennock		1.000		55.3
[B]9.	Mariano Rivera		.889		117.3[/B]
10.	Bert Blyleven		.833		47.3
 	Chris Carpenter		.833		53.3
 	Juan Guzman		.833		51.7
 	Bruce Kison		.833		36.3
 	Curt Schilling		.833		128.0
 	Fernando Valenzuela	.833		63.7
 
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