Better pay heupel

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Give him exactly $1 dollar more than whatever Lane Kiffin is getting, just to send a message.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
If Heupel sent out feelers to the Big 12, someone would make room. He's a damn sight better than most there.

BTW, Sonny Dykes is making $6M. So do you think coaches in the SEC aren't better than Big 12 coaches? Heupel is making $6M also.

C'mon. There's no reason to disrespect the man. He's put in the work to turn around a disaster and turned it into nearly a CFP appearance. What's your problem with paying a man market value in the SEC?
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How much do you give to the university in donations and ticket purchases? The money has to come from somewhere.

Sonny Dykes is playing for a nation title in year 1 at a school that went 5-7 last year and yes, he’s better than a handful of coaches in the SEC.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The University Athletics program generates somewhere around $150M per year LARGELY due to football TV revenue.

Figure it out.
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Football revenue from fans spending money. It’s very easy for you to sit at a keyboard and spend other people’s money. You know what happens when expenses increase? Revenue also has to increase to offset them, either via voluntary higher donations and/or ticket costs.
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
How much do you give to the university in donations and ticket purchases? The money has to come from somewhere.

Sonny Dykes is playing for a nation title in year 1 at a school that went 5-7 last year and yes, he’s better than a handful of coaches in the SEC.
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In 2024 the new ESPN contract starts....... and....

"The contract is worth a whopping US$3 billion, according to the New York Times, meaning the SEC will get an annual payment of US$300 million, which is over five times more than the yearly US$55 million it received from CBS."
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
Football revenue from fans spending money. It’s very easy for you to sit at a keyboard and spend other people’s money. You know what happens when expenses increase? Revenue also has to increase to offset them, either via voluntary higher donations and/or ticket costs.
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The revenue doesn't come from fans spending money. It comes from our tv contracts. Jeeze. Let's be clear. If you think these salaries are paid on the backs of fan tickets sales you are lost.
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
Football revenue from fans spending money. It’s very easy for you to sit at a keyboard and spend other people’s money. You know what happens when expenses increase? Revenue also has to increase to offset them, either via voluntary higher donations and/or ticket costs.
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You have no clue what's going on
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
Football revenue from fans spending money. It’s very easy for you to sit at a keyboard and spend other people’s money. You know what happens when expenses increase? Revenue also has to increase to offset them, either via voluntary higher donations and/or ticket costs.
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You are surely not naive enough to believe the fans matter in this? The TV contract is ALL that matters and I showed you that deal is going up 5 fold.

It's a business. It's a very big business and Coach Josh Heupel is doing damn well holding up his end of the bargain. We should hold up our end by continuing to watch and even more will watch because of his work. The school should hold up its end and pay him what he's worth in the SEC.

It's a business.
 
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volfanhill said:
Anyone worried about over paying CJH is an idiot.
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There's a limit but he's put in the work and he's underpaid. I'm not talking Saban money but somewhere in the $8-9M range is probably good and I'd not run the deal beyond 5 more years.

Sadly, he may not want to be tied down either. I can see Oklahoma being his dream job.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I love Heupel. UT football is fun again.

Don't forget how the last 2 pay increases went for the program. Butch got paid after back to back 9-win seasons. Fired the next year. Pruitt got paid after the '19 season...and was fired after 2020. With that said, I'd probably pay the man but have it more incentive based. I like what another poster said...$5MM salary and $250K per win or something along those lines.
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What happened with the last 2 is irrelevant. Neither one of them came close to doing what Heupel just did. $5 million is a slap on the face. That’s what he is making now. So essentially you want him not to be rewarded for the best season since 2001. That makes sense. There is no reason why Heupel shouldn’t be making more than Kiffin, Pittman, Napier, Stoops and Fisher.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
There's a limit but he's put in the work and he's underpaid. I'm not talking Saban money but somewhere in the $8-9M range is probably good and I'd not run the deal beyond 5 more years.

Sadly, he may not want to be tied down either. I can see Oklahoma being his dream job.
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Why do people think OU is his dream job?
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
That’s not as much as you think for all the time and dedication it takes to be the CEO of a football team year round.

He has to give his agent and uncle Sams huge cuts of that. 2.5m take home is nothing to cry about but still not what people make it out to be for someone probably working 80 hour weeks 40-45 weeks a year.
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I'm sorry, but this is a crazy comment. I'm a doctor and don't make anything close to that, and we don't need for a thing. $2.5M allows one an extremely luxurious life with plenty left for charity and support for family members.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Why do people think OU is his dream job?
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He damn near won a Heisman there and has history there, not all of which is good. Going back as a respected coach kind of verifies he wasn't the issue when he got fired there.

Mostly though, it's his alma mater and they'll be SEC. They'll have money and if he's interested, they'll pay him.
 
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Tennessee is a relatively-cheap place to live. And, I know personally that he and his family are very happy here. There comes a point that a certain number of millions of dollars really doesn't matter in the long run, for most people.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
He damn near won a Heisman there and has history there, not all of which is good. Going back as a respected coach kind of verifies he wasn't the issue when he got fired there.

Mostly though, it's his alma mater and they'll be SEC. They'll have money and if he's interested, they'll pay him.
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Oklahoma is an absolutely terrible place to live. You could offer me double my income and I wouldn't even consider moving there. And, I've lived there before.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Oklahoma is an absolutely terrible place to live. You could offer me double my income and I wouldn't even consider moving there. And, I've lived there before.
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Norman does suck. I've not lived there but I have spent time there. I'll give you that.

The tug of an alma mater and a QB school recently makes me concerned. I predict they definitely show interest in him and I don't know Coach Heupel personally so I'm not sure how he feels but coaches often end up "going home."
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I’m waiting on some school to do this except with higher incentives. Like some desperate school too. 6-7 million per year with like $500k to win division, $1m to win conference, $1m to make playoff, $2m to make natty, $5m to win natty.

Like who wouldn’t pay 15-20 million one time to win a natty if you weren’t guaranteed to be paying that amount every year unless you just won a natty every year.
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Some schools will start doing this, as they well should, and you have raised a very accurate foreshadowing. But I think Tennessee has seen enough and knows what they have, and Danny White will make sure that his copilot is always very well compensated.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Norman does suck. I've not lived there but I have spent time there. I'll give you that.

The tug of an alma mater and a QB school recently makes me concerned. I predict they definitely show interest in him and I don't know Coach Heupel personally so I'm not sure how he feels but coaches often end up "going home."
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I'll say this: if CJH leaves for Oklahoma, I'll be more surprised than when Kiffen bailed after one year.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I'll say this: if CJH leaves for Oklahoma, I'll be more surprised than when Kiffen bailed after one year.
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Kiffin wasn't a known mercenary when he left but he is now. I don't think Heupel is a mercenary at all and I think Oklahoma is the only SEC school that could really tempt him.

They bother me, though. They're not going to enjoy the big butt kicking they'll receive from most of the SEC and they, like the TX schools (TX and aTm,) will try to buy success.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Danny White is going to give him a raise and rightfully so
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Hype has done an outstandin job. but I think we need to see what Hype does with his players. Our main offense this year came from Pruitts recruits. Like, who on offense were his recruits that started? It is obvious Hype is a great field coach, and develops the players. If we win 10 games regular season, with Hypes recruits I say put him right up there with Kirby and Nick
 
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