Biden Immigration Plan

[0nelilreb]

Let the EO flow begin . I do find it a bit odd that he chooses to expand immigration and turn down the heat on illegal immigrants during a pandemic .

 

[hog88]

The next caravan is loading up as we speak. Get in while the getting is good.

 

[RavinDave]

The floodgates are opening again.

 

[Zues1]

Ah yes, more democrat voters.

 

[volinbham]

Didn’t Obama deport far more than Trump or Bush?

Yes and no - they changed the definition of what "deporting" means to count turn backs (people caught at the border who are not allowed in). They used that to tout how tough they were on immigration until their base started to believe it then they changed messaging.

Kinda like Obama used Presidential Memoranda instead of XOs to claim he wasn't exercising executive power like Bush but when you add them all up he blew Bush out of the water with Executive Power usage.

Lot's of smoke and mirror stuff

 

[n_huffhines]

Ah yes, more democrat voters.

What people on the right don't understand is that our neighbors to the south are inclined to work hard, pay taxes, and support economic freedom. The right is chasing them to the left with their immigration ideas and rhetoric.

Would a Less-Nativist Republican Have Won in 2020?

 

[volinbham]

What people on the right don't understand is that our neighbors to the south are inclined to work hard, pay taxes, and support economic freedom. The right is chasing them to the left with their immigration ideas and rhetoric.

Would a Less-Nativist Republican Have Won in 2020?

possibly but to counter Trump got more of the Latino/Hispanic vote than other R administrations and it's still 2/3rds D. Open immigration to the South means more D voters than R voters.

 

[n_huffhines]

possibly but to counter Trump got more of the Latino/Hispanic vote than other R administrations and it's still 2/3rds D. Open immigration to the South means more D voters than R voters.

"Racist" W Bush had 40% Hispanic support. Imagine what you'd get if your platform championed immigration, solved the dreamer's problem, created a clear and attainable path to citizenship, etc.

 

[MG1968]

What people on the right don't understand is that our neighbors to the south are inclined to work hard, pay taxes, and support economic freedom. The right is chasing them to the left with their immigration ideas and rhetoric.

Would a Less-Nativist Republican Have Won in 2020?

No one is saying that they’re not hard working people. That said, it’s not exactly people who could get jobs at any any one of Mexico’s 30 automotive plants and their hundreds of suppliers that are illegally entering the country.

 

[golfballs]

What people on the right don't understand is that our neighbors to the south are inclined to work hard, pay taxes, and support economic freedom. The right is chasing them to the left with their immigration ideas and rhetoric.

Would a Less-Nativist Republican Have Won in 2020?

I don’t really care what party they’d belong to. It shouldn’t be a consideration when making immigration policy.

 

[volinbham]

"Racist" W Bush had 40% Hispanic support. Imagine what you'd get if your platform championed immigration, solved the dreamer's problem, created a clear and attainable path to citizenship, etc.

hard to imagine it's over 50%

 

[MurphyVol]

Didn’t Obama deport far more than Trump or Bush?

I believe Obama deported more people than any US Prez in history. At one point (IIRC) he supported a border fence much like Trump's. One thing they may be looking at now is the low birth rate in the US.

 

[n_huffhines]

hard to imagine it's over 50%

Yeah because it's hard to imagine Republicans doing what it would take to get it there. All we know is a Republican party that is perceived to be less friendly to them.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

America isn’t a charity

No, but it was BUILT upon people coming here in hopes of making a better future for themselves.

 

[volinbham]

No, but it was BUILT upon people coming here in hopes of making a better future for themselves.

unlimited?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I posted this yesterday in another thread...

Biden administration likely to provide US citizenship to over 500,000 Indians - Times of India

 

[0nelilreb]

No, but it was BUILT upon people coming here in hopes of making a better future for themselves.

Still is and I would be you that everyone of them would tell you that there’s no guarantees, only greater opportunities.

 

[MG1968]

No, but it was BUILT upon people coming here in hopes of making a better future for themselves.

There are millions of names in the Liberty Island archives of people who came here to make a better life for themselves and their families. What’s wrong with continuing that tradition?

 

[Orange defense]

Oh great, more covid coming in.

 

[calban]

There are millions of names in the Liberty Island archives of people who came here to make a better life for themselves and their families. What’s wrong with continuing that tradition?

Most of um dont speek Engish.

 

[OHvol40]

Oh great, more covid coming in.

In case you haven’t noticed, we have most of the covid already.

 

[Orange defense]

In case you haven’t noticed, we have most of the covid already.

So, you want more, with open border?

 

[volinbham]

In case you haven’t noticed, we have most of the covid already.

most? is that some of that new math?

 

[n_huffhines]

I don’t really care what party they’d belong to. It shouldn’t be a consideration when making immigration policy.

Agreed

 

[Orangeslice13]

There are millions of names in the Liberty Island archives of people who came here to make a better life for themselves and their families. What’s wrong with continuing that tradition?

Some to escape the post WW1 Germany.
I should post some of the letters. They came here for opportunity and were ready to complete for it.

 

[OHvol40]

So, you want more, with open border?

There is no open border and you saying so/freaking out won’t ever make it so. Don’t hide your prejudices behind a virus, please and thank you.