Big Brother 18 - May the Most Devious SOB Win

#352
#352
BadJerry20 said:
Yep. I like him but his whole game is "let me float around and not get blood on my hands" This isn't Survivor, the jury rarely if ever votes bitter, blood is usually rewarded in the end.
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I almost feel like Nat's game has been held back a little by James, I think she would have made or tried to make a move if he wasn't around. He generally talks her into floating around not making waves.
 
#353
#353
BadJerry20 said:
I almost feel like Nat's game has been held back a little by James, I think she would have made or tried to make a move if he wasn't around. He generally talks her into floating around not making waves.
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I disagree. Being with James helped her game by providing her information. Also, being with James kept her out of Paulie's crosshairs for a good portion of the game. And James isn't without some blood on his hands.
 
#354
#354
Weezer said:
I disagree. Being with James helped her game by providing her information. Also, being with James kept her out of Paulie's crosshairs for a good portion of the game. And James isn't without some blood on his hands.
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She hasn't talked game to most anyone because of James, I think her social game would be really good otherwise. She's wanted to make moves and he's been like no we need to lay low. What blood does he have? Z? Blah His game is weak, and I could be wrong but I think she could be a really strong player, but she's been stuck in the background.
 
#355
#355
I do love how every season the girls get together and say, "k all girls alliance this is the year" then they see boys. I can only remember one girls alliance that worked and it had that cop/firefighter guy Tony maybe? Can't remember the season.
 
#358
#358
Idk how much you liked Survivor Huff, but when you get CBS All- Access you should check out Survivor: Heroes vs Villains. Great season with probably the best female contestant on any show in Pavarti, the best Villain ever in Russell. The biggest what a DA moment in survivor history, maybe the best tribal ever, great blindsides. Just ignore who wins cause its bull****. Lol
 
#359
#359
BadJerry20 said:
She hasn't talked game to most anyone because of James, I think her social game would be really good otherwise. She's wanted to make moves and he's been like no we need to lay low. What blood does he have? Z? Blah His game is weak, and I could be wrong but I think she could be a really strong player, but she's been stuck in the background.
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Nat's social game had her in an alliance with Bronte and Bridget. Both are gone. James kept her safe. And what comps has she won? I like Nat, but I don't see her as this secret great player. She's stumbled into fortune recently, but that's more opportunity than something she planned.

As HoH, James nominated Frank and Bridget, with Frank getting voted out. The next week he turned on his friend(Day) because he decided it was best for his game. He was in the middle of getting Z out with his care package and took the brunt of Paulie's wrath. James has blood on his hands.
 
#360
#360
Weezer said:
Nat's social game had her in an alliance with Bronte and Bridget. Both are gone. James kept her safe. And what comps has she won? I like Nat, but I don't see her as this secret great player. She's stumbled into fortune recently, but that's more opportunity than something she planned.

As HoH, James nominated Frank and Bridget, with Frank getting voted out. The next week he turned on his friend(Day) because he decided it was best for his game. He was in the middle of getting Z out with his care package and took the brunt of Paulie's wrath. James has blood on his hands.
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Come on man you know early alliances mean nothing, people get in the weirdest alliances early that have little to do with social game. She's won one less than James Sooo. Lol I disagree on keeping her safe, nobody was ever going after her till Paulie got his panties in a bunch James or no James. I'm not saying she's secretly great, I'm saying I think she could be pretty good. I felt the same way about McRae, when he was with Amanda.

James nominated Frank and Bridgette because the house wanted him to and he didn't want the house mad at him. He flipped on Da' because she was already gone and he didn't want to make waves. I'll give you Z because the girls talked him into it and he didn't say, "I don't want blood on my hands" for once. He's a super floater nothing more. If you've been on Big Brother for 2 years and your big move is getting out Z...then I'm not going to be impressed.
 
#361
#361
I lump James in with Kaysar, Brendon, Jeff, Frankie and all the other players that people think are good but when you look at what they've done they really just suck lol
 
#362
#362
BTW I think Boogie is hands down the most overrated player of all time. He was just lucky enough to be friends with the GOAT.
 
#363
#363
BadJerry20 said:
Come on man you know early alliances mean nothing, people get in the weirdest alliances early that have little to do with social game. She's won one less than James Sooo. Lol I disagree on keeping her safe, nobody was ever going after her till Paulie got his panties in a bunch James or no James. I'm not saying she's secretly great, I'm saying I think she could be pretty good. I felt the same way about McRae, when he was with Amanda.

James nominated Frank and Bridgette because the house wanted him to and he didn't want the house mad at him. He flipped on Da' because she was already gone and he didn't want to make waves. I'll give you Z because the girls talked him into it and he didn't say, "I don't want blood on my hands" for once. He's a super floater nothing more. If you've been on Big Brother for 2 years and your big move is getting out Z...then I'm not going to be impressed.
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Did you watch the beginning of the season?? Natalie was often mentioned as being expendable by Paulie and the guys, with the exception of James. She wasn't forming bonds or alliances with anyone other than Bronte and Bridget.

And you're hyping Nat for what she might have done while totally dismissing what James has done. That makes no ****ing sense, little brother. At this point, what James has done is get himself and Natalie to the final seven(barring Paulie having the RT ticket). He's thrown a couple of comps leading up to this because he had an alliance to help get things done. It'll be interesting to see if his comp game picks up here at the end.

No one in this cast is a great player, but James is playing as well as anyone in there atm. Well. I might give an edge to Victor. But while we're on the subject, I like Paul, but what big moves has he made really? He was HoH when Day was evicted, but he made clear he wanted Bridget voted out. He caved to Paulie wanting her put up. He's done everything to keep blood off his hands as much as, probably more, than James.

This season doesn't have a true stand out player, at least not yet.
 
#364
#364
Jerry, if you could cast your own all-star season of BB, 16 houseguests, who would you choose? BTW, I agree Dr. Will was the GOAT.
 
#365
#365
Weezer said:
Did you watch the beginning of the season?? Natalie was often mentioned as being expendable by Paulie and the guys, with the exception of James. She wasn't forming bonds or alliances with anyone other than Bronte and Bridget.

And you're hyping Nat for what she might have done while totally dismissing what James has done. That makes no ****ing sense, little brother. At this point, what James has done is get himself and Natalie to the final seven(barring Paulie having the RT ticket). He's thrown a couple of comps leading up to this because he had an alliance to help get things done. It'll be interesting to see if his comp game picks up here at the end.

No one in this cast is a great player, but James is playing as well as anyone in there atm. Well. I might give an edge to Victor. But while we're on the subject, I like Paul, but what big moves has he made really? He was HoH when Day was evicted, but he made clear he wanted Bridget voted out. He caved to Paulie wanting her put up. He's done everything to keep blood off his hands as much as, probably more, than James.

This season doesn't have a true stand out player, at least not yet.
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Dude they said that about everyone, James was agreeing BTW saying IIRC use her as a pawn. That's some horrible protection. Lol So he's floated...glad you agree. I kid I kid :) I'm not hyping Nat, I'm simply saying I think she could be a good player. You disagree so moving on lol

Well Paulie was running away with it till he melted down. I think Vic and Paul are top 2 right now, which is pretty amazing looking back at the first 2 weeks. Players that come back in the house usually exit fast, I think Paul deserves a lot of credit for Vic being around. He got to Vic and basically put a leash on him, then convinced his alliance that wanted Vic out, hey I can handle him let's keep him around. Then when he got the opportunity, he let the dog off the leash and said put up Paulie and Corey. He originally planted the Z thing in James head, and convinced him to remove his vote so nobody would know. The 2 of them have a rough road, cause I think James and the girls will flip Nicole soon. But I surprisingly hope they are the final 2.

BTW I think making stuff happen and keeping blood off your hands like Derrick is great gameplay. Keeping blood off your hands by not doing anything isn't. IMO
 
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#366
#366
Weezer said:
Jerry, if you could cast your own all-star season of BB, 16 houseguests, who would you choose? BTW, I agree Dr. Will was the GOAT.
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Damn that's hard. Will, Ian, Dan, Evil Dick, Janelle, Rachel, Brittany because she cracks me up, Enzo, Hayden, Danielle season 3 (?), Derrick, Beast Mode Cowboy (after watching him on Survivor I think he could win if he harnsesses his inner stalker), James (season 6), Eric (season 8, dude got screwed having to do what America said), idk about the last 2. You?

Edit: McRae because I'd like to see what he could do without Amanda. And Jordan cause she's cute and funny. Lol
 
#367
#367
BTW Weezer glad to see you in here finally, hope that means everything is going well. Ape has my number you should get it from him and hit me up. Might be headed to Knoxville in a couple months, maybe we could grab a bite to eat or something while I'm in town.
 
#368
#368
BadJerry20 said:
Damn that's hard. Will, Ian, Dan, Evil Dick (NO), Janelle, Rachel (**** NO), Brittany because she cracks me up, Enzo (Really?), Hayden, Danielle season 3 (?), Derrick, Beast Mode Cowboy (after watching him on Survivor I think he could win if he harnsesses his inner stalker), James (season 6), Eric (season 8, dude got screwed having to do what America said), idk about the last 2. You?

Edit: McRae because I'd like to see what he could do without Amanda. And Jordan cause she's cute and funny. Lol
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Agreed this is tough.
 
#369
#369
BleedOrange91 said:
I think Paul is definitely playing the best game right now. Nicole is there to even though I cant stand her. Victor is playing well after he came back in the house. Not afraid to take people out.


Horror indeed


I need to watch that season over again. I got my gf into BB last year and this year she is very into it. So I started watching old seasons. Naturally started with season 2 and now on all-stars. Season 6 was a good one maybe that will be next.
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I think I've gotten my hubs into this year. :dance2: Before I've had to wait til he isn't around to watch since I know he hasn't cared for it.

We were watching live on Sunday and our dog wanted to go outside. Hubs let him out and he started barking. Hubs went outside to get the dog, but what does he say to me before he heads out?? Can you pause it?? :) Ooooooh someone is interested in seeing all parts of the show!
 
#370
#370
BadJerry20 said:
Damn that's hard. Will, Ian, Dan, Evil Dick, Janelle, Rachel, Brittany because she cracks me up, Enzo, Hayden, Danielle season 3 (?), Derrick, Beast Mode Cowboy (after watching him on Survivor I think he could win if he harnsesses his inner stalker), James (season 6), Eric (season 8, dude got screwed having to do what America said), idk about the last 2. You?

Edit: McRae because I'd like to see what he could do without Amanda. And Jordan cause she's cute and funny. Lol
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If you do Rachel you have to do his man, whatever his name was. Nobody gets in between me and my man!

I know he wasn't a great player, but I liked Donny from the last season, old country man from NC.

What was the name of the crazy dentist? Awful laugh, but I enjoyed him.
 
#371
#371
kev20 said:
Agreed this is tough.
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Man you can't do an All Stars and not have Rachel no matter how much you hate her. Lol

Are you telling me you wouldn't like to see Will mind **** Evil Dick?

Enzo just cracked me up.

Make a list foo
 
#372
#372
volwindy said:
If you do Rachel you have to do his man, whatever his name was. Nobody gets in between me and my man!

I know he wasn't a great player, but I liked Donny from the last season, old country man from NC.

What was the name of the crazy dentist? Awful laugh, but I enjoyed him.
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No Brendon just no, he sucks and makes Rachel more annoying lol

I forgot about the Dentist, he is in just for entertainment value.
 
#373
#373
FTR I wasn't naming the top 16 players ever. Just the top 6 or so, then good players that I found entertaining.
 
#374
#374
My pure torture list would be about 6 people from the racist season, Vanessa, Audrey, Vanessa's sister, Meach, Boogie, Jessie (Huffs lover the muscle head), Frankie, Howie, Brendon, that one weird chick that lactated all the time. Lol
 
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