Bill Haslam...

#26
#26
You find this a lot in the south...it's the remnants of the old southern Democrats. More of the social conservatives and fiscal moderates if not liberal on some fiscal issues. A good chunk of the GOP, especially in the south, is made up of this. You even see much of the elected leaders are nothing but former Democrats changing parties to just remain in power or to win an election.
 
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You find this a lot in the south...it's the remnants of the old southern Democrats. More of the social conservatives and fiscal moderates if not liberal on some fiscal issues. A good chunk of the GOP, especially in the south, is made up of this. You even see much of the elected leaders are nothing but former Democrats changing parties to just remain in power or to win an election.

Oh I'm well aware. Have Lived in East Tennessee since I was 5 (25 now), and the ability of some people to put personal opinions of faith above actual political issues is delusional to me.
 
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Oh I'm well aware. Have Lived in East Tennessee since I was 5 (25 now), and the ability of some people to put personal opinions of faith above actual political issues is delusional to me.

Welcome to America. It has happened. It is happening. And it always will happen. Great thing about our country free speech and expression of ideas.
 
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Let's just all breath a sigh of relief in knowing that Zach Wamp won't be governing our wonderful state. Judeo-Christian roots? What in the hell does that even mean?

And yeah, Rasputin is an idiot.
 
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You mean the guy who said in public that Islam is a cult? The guy who said that Islamic Mosques should have restrictions placed on where they are built? Yeah, I'm bummed out that guy didn't win.

Let me rephrase...

If there were 10 things I wanted from a politician in terms of his/her platform, their position on Islamic mosques would probably not be on the list. Not something i really care about, therefore, it would not be an issue that would make me immediately disqualify a candidate one way or the other...


























(unless they were Muslim)
 
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Of course I knew the definition of the term... but how does one RESTORE a state to those roots? Don't be foolish.

it's a way of saying to the populace "I'm extremely religious and will think like that when in office" (winks at religious part of the right in the south)


(honestly, people near him have told me wamp seriously believes that he's chosen by God for this stuff)
 
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#35
You find this a lot in the south...it's the remnants of the old southern Democrats. More of the social conservatives and fiscal moderates if not liberal on some fiscal issues. A good chunk of the GOP, especially in the south, is made up of this. You even see much of the elected leaders are nothing but former Democrats changing parties to just remain in power or to win an election.

thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes/understands this lol :)
 
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the best man for the job probably came in 3rd. prepare for corker 2.0 in haslam
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Agree 110%,



How about Don Sundquist 2.0?

Haslam vs. McWherter is the Tennessee version of McCain vs. Obama. Just another garbage lesser of two evils election. As is 3rd District Congress in the Chattanooga area.


I'm down with that.



I agree with you completely. Haslam bought this election, plus Wamp and Ramsey split the conservative vote. Haslam will beat McWherter by double digits, I hope Haslam turns out to be a great Governor. As of right now I will not vote for him.

As of election day, I won't vote for Haslam, probably won't vote for McWherter either unless he sends me a couple of cases of beer.



I've been trying to tell people that for weeks on here and gave up.

That said, I have gained a lot of respect for Ramsey and lost all I had for Wamp during the last week or so of this election.

Ramsey will still hold a postition arguably more powerful than that of the governor's office but we missed a golden opportunity to advance a man to higher office that will act in our best interest.



You mean the guy who said in public that Islam is a cult? The guy who said that Islamic Mosques should have restrictions placed on where they are built? Yeah, I'm bummed out that guy didn't win.

Your kind of ignorance doesn't just grow wild in the woods, it has to be cultivated.

Tell me one good thing you can say about islam?

"The mosques are our barracks,
the domes are our helmets,
the minarets are our swords,
and the faithful are our army."

This old poem was quoted recently by the PM of Turkey who B Hussein Obambi claims as a 'close friend.'

Erdogan the Turkish PM advocates for the revival of the Ottoman empire and we have over 50 charter schools in America on which over $40 million American taxpayer dollars have already been spent that promote the same thing.

That islamic empire is meant to be worldwide, especially in America.

Isn't it time you wised up?
 
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no I don't. But I do have a Dem friend who crossed over so he could vote for Basil Marceaux

You know I went to vote with a couple of neighbors, one of whom is a democrat who had never voted in a republican primary but did this time, primarily because of disgust at the current democrat engineered cluster f..k in Washington.

For someone who is about 70 years old to make that sort of change sort of validates obambi's promise, does it not, maybe not the change he had hoped for but definately a sea change in political thought.



You've got to be kidding me. First Amendment?

Yeah right, political correctness trumps the 1st amendmend does it not??



This is just stupid.

How so???????




You find this a lot in the south...it's the remnants of the old southern Democrats. More of the social conservatives and fiscal moderates if not liberal on some fiscal issues. A good chunk of the GOP, especially in the south, is made up of this. You even see much of the elected leaders are nothing but former Democrats changing parties to just remain in power or to win an election.

Did you ever stop to think that you are about half FOS, if not than that might be something to consider.
 
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I agree with you completely. Haslam bought this election, plus Wamp and Ramsey split the conservative vote. Haslam will beat McWherter by double digits, I hope Haslam turns out to be a great Governor. As of right now I will not vote for him.
Weren't all of them running on the Republican ticket, thus being conservative. You sound like a classic sour grapes constituent that just wants to gripe.
 
#39
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Of course I knew the definition of the term... but how does one RESTORE a state to those roots? Don't be foolish.

There are those who say for that their movement to succeed then the Judeo/Christian religious tradition must be destroyed. One of those groups has $100 million a year to spend. They bought a senator to advance one bill which he did for a mere $250,000 (plus 350,000 targeted mailouts) a few years ago.

'Don't be foolish' is something you might consider yourself rather than projecting it toward others.
 
#40
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I've come to realize when you see a Republican break out the Christian card, that it spells disaster. Usually means they are going to spend you blind and only scream loud enough to be a fool on social issues.

I liked Ron Ramsy the best going into this, but his ad campaign really was terrible and it made me nervous. I personally don't see all the hate towards Haslam but hey to each his own.
 
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Ramsey will still hold a postition arguably more powerful than that of the governor's office but we missed a golden opportunity to advance a man to higher office that will act in our best interest.

Legislative wise there is no argument that he holds more power than Haslam will. I think Haslam is the better executive of the two and IMO the Governor is nothing more than CEO of the state of Tennessee.

Republicans are looking very good in the state right now and I hope these two can work together. At least is his speech Thursday night Ramsey appeared willing to do so.
 
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Legislative wise there is no argument that he holds more power than Haslam will. I think Haslam is the better executive of the two and IMO the Governor is nothing more than CEO of the state of Tennessee.

Republicans are looking very good in the state right now and I hope these two can work together. At least is his speech Thursday night Ramsey appeared willing to do so.

I don't think there will be too much friction between the two.

Republicans across the nation are looking good, most places are registering far more people voting republican in primaries than democrat.

Someone said that the democrats may be thinking '94 was a very good year after this coming November.
 
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#43
Agree 110%,






I'm down with that.





As of election day, I won't vote for Haslam, probably won't vote for McWherter either unless he sends me a couple of cases of beer.





Ramsey will still hold a postition arguably more powerful than that of the governor's office but we missed a golden opportunity to advance a man to higher office that will act in our best interest.





Your kind of ignorance doesn't just grow wild in the woods, it has to be cultivated.

Tell me one good thing you can say about islam?

"The mosques are our barracks,
the domes are our helmets,
the minarets are our swords,
and the faithful are our army."

This old poem was quoted recently by the PM of Turkey who B Hussein Obambi claims as a 'close friend.'

Erdogan the Turkish PM advocates for the revival of the Ottoman empire and we have over 50 charter schools in America on which over $40 million American taxpayer dollars have already been spent that promote the same thing.

That islamic empire is meant to be worldwide, especially in America.

Isn't it time you wised up?

Every religion is meant to spread worldwide. That doesn't make Christianity some kind of terrorist cult, and Islam is the same way.
 
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#44
Your kind of ignorance doesn't just grow wild in the woods, it has to be cultivated.

Tell me one good thing you can say about islam?

"The mosques are our barracks,
the domes are our helmets,
the minarets are our swords,
and the faithful are our army."

This old poem was quoted recently by the PM of Turkey who B Hussein Obambi claims as a 'close friend.'

Erdogan the Turkish PM advocates for the revival of the Ottoman empire and we have over 50 charter schools in America on which over $40 million American taxpayer dollars have already been spent that promote the same thing.

That islamic empire is meant to be worldwide, especially in America.

Isn't it time you wised up?

I'm not defending Islam. I know damn well that those people took down the towers and they should all be served justice. However, I'm not just about to say "every religion in the country can build Churches, Temples, etc. but limitations should be placed on Mosques. We have freedom of religion granted by our Constitution. You've got Churches throughout the South that support White Supremacy, do you think they should be able to keep on preaching what they preach?
 
#45
#45
Every religion is meant to spread worldwide. That doesn't make Christianity some kind of terrorist cult, and Islam is the same way.

Islam is the same way?? No it isn't.

Today in Afghanistan a group of medical aid workers, six of the American and mostly doctors, were returning from a rural area of the country after attending to the medical needs of some of those poor tribal members.

They were ambushed, robbed and slaughtered, the taliban took credit saying the dead were secret agents promoting Christianity.

No where in the world do you have Christians doing anything at all like that to muslims.

Dorothy Rabinowitz: Liberal Piety and the Memory of 9/11 - WSJ.com

Such values were the rationale for the official will to ignore the highly suspicious behavior of Maj. Nidal Hasan, who went on to murder 13 Americans at Fort Hood. A silence maintained despite all his commanders and colleagues knew about his raging hostility to the U.S. military and his strident advocacy on behalf of political Islam.

Those who knew—and they were many—chose silence out of fear of seeming insensitive to a Muslim. As one who had said nothing in the interest of this higher good later explained, Maj. Hasan was, after all, one of the few top-ranking Muslim officers the army had.

In the plan for an Islamic center and mosque some 15 stories high to be built near Ground Zero, the full force of politically correct piety is on display along with the usual unyielding assault on all dissenters. The project has aroused intense opposition from New Yorkers and Americans across the country. It has also elicited remarkable streams of oratory from New York's political leaders, including Attorney General Andrew Cuomo.

The proposed mosque is an in you face statement by islam that they will conquer this country by force or by using our own weakness of tolerating everything under the sun.



I'm not defending Islam. I know damn well that those people took down the towers and they should all be served justice. However, I'm not just about to say "every religion in the country can build Churches, Temples, etc. but limitations should be placed on Mosques. We have freedom of religion granted by our Constitution. You've got Churches throughout the South that support White Supremacy, do you think they should be able to keep on preaching what they preach?


That is the craziest post I've yet to read on this forum.

I challenge you to name even ONE church in the south, or anywhere else in America that preaches white supremacy!!! It would be interesting to just find out where you got that notion. Care to volunteer that information???

But, since YOU JUST HAD TO PLAY THE RACE CARD, let it be brought to your attention that EVERY NOI MOSQUE in America and some of the so-called churches that preach 'black liberation' theocracy, such as the one atteneded by the obama family for twenty years, ALL PREACH BLACK SUPREMACY!!
 
#46
#46
That is the craziest post I've yet to read on this forum.

I challenge you to name even ONE church in the south, or anywhere else in America that preaches white supremacy!!! It would be interesting to just find out where you got that notion. Care to volunteer that information???

But, since YOU JUST HAD TO PLAY THE RACE CARD, let it be brought to your attention that EVERY NOI MOSQUE in America and some of the so-called churches that preach 'black liberation' theocracy, such as the one atteneded by the obama family for twenty years, ALL PREACH BLACK SUPREMACY!!

I can guarantee you there are Churches in the South that hold KKK meetings. I'm aware of all the "Black Liberation" stuff. I'm not trying to sound like a bleeding-heart Liberal here, I promise. The bottom line of what I'm saying is that if you start limiting where Mosques can be built, that sounds like a major violation of the First Amendment. I don't want the things built anywhere near Ground Zero, or near where I live. I can see Ramsey's argument he made, but it'd just be hard to get around the First Amendment, which I value highly.
 
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I can guarantee you there are Churches in the South that hold KKK meetings. I'm aware of all the "Black Liberation" stuff. I'm not trying to sound like a bleeding-heart Liberal here, I promise. The bottom line of what I'm saying is that if you start limiting where Mosques can be built, that sounds like a major violation of the First Amendment. I don't want the things built anywhere near Ground Zero, or near where I live. I can see Ramsey's argument he made, but it'd just be hard to get around the First Amendment, which I value highly.

The reason the first amendment does not apply here is because Islam is not only a religion, it's a political movement.
 
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I can guarantee you there are Churches in the South that hold KKK meetings. I'm aware of all the "Black Liberation" stuff. I'm not trying to sound like a bleeding-heart Liberal here, I promise. The bottom line of what I'm saying is that if you start limiting where Mosques can be built, that sounds like a major violation of the First Amendment. I don't want the things built anywhere near Ground Zero, or near where I live. I can see Ramsey's argument he made, but it'd just be hard to get around the First Amendment, which I value highly.

Color me skeptical, have you attended such meetings??

What is the source of your information???

Let me say this, even if some church allowed such meetings to be held on their property, which I sincerely doubt, still that philosophy doesn't come from the Gospel of Jesus Christ, neither is it preached from the pulpit.

If there is any group in America that wants to trample on the first amendment, it is the votaries of islam.

What I'm saying is we had better step back and take a look at the big picture, look what is happening all over the world with the reawakining of islamic jihad which hardly ever was completely dormant and now has been going ever stronger over the past century, mostly flying under the radar because lamestream media doesn't cover the underside of their egregious violations of human rights and in fact generally tries to cover for them, even grossly misrepresenting the facts in many cases such as what really happened and is happening in the Balkans and Sudan.

Look what the western liberalism outlook and policies have done to western Europe.

We had better limit islamic immigration and the building of mosques and the advancement of islamic teachings to and in this country or there will be an ever increasingly heavy price to pay. Islam is at odds with democracy, our forms of jurisprudence and nearly every value to the average American citizen that we hold so dear, verily freedom itself hangs in the balance.

And BTW Supreme Court Justice Thomas said that the racism of the eastern liberal establishment was far worse than anything he had ever experienced from the KKK while growing up in South Carolina. (not meant to condone KKK teachings at all.)

Now what?? Black leadership such as the NAACP and others aligns themselves with the eastern establishment and so does Obama and his administration.

MLK said that the racial hatred he found in northern cities like Chicago and Detroit far surpassed anything he had found in Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi.

Yet still the media, holloywood and other spokesmen continue to try to demonize white southerners.
 

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