Black coach [Some of my best friends are black coaches]

#26
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spazzyvol said:
There's truth in this to some extent. Honestly though, if we are recruiting the kid, they don't necessarily want someone they can relate to, they want a role model, maybe a father figure, and they want someone that will help them get to the next level so they can make bank. Black or white doesn't matter at that point. Now if said candidate can be that person for the recruit and that candidate happens to be black, then yes I could see it as a plus maybe... But I don't see race being some huge thing. Any coach, if they care about their athletes, will find I way to relate to them, whether they look foolish for doing so or not. If they truly care, the recruit will feel that love, race wouldn't matter at that point at all.
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Good points, I agree with that.
 
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vol_n_big10_land said:
You sir are an idiot. I am white and my son is mixed. If any coach comes to my house talking about rap I will be offended.
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I ain't no idiot. I love black people, and I listen to rap sometimes. I was just throwing this out there to get people's opinions.
 
#30
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In some instances I think it could. The reason most black kids play for white coaches is because most MAJOR jobs are occupied with white coaches. If a black coach were at a school like Tennessee I think it could help in some instances. I think it could help in some places like Memphis. JMO. But after a year or two, if dude doesn't win it won't matter. And if an AD hires a coach for that reason alone, he should be shown the door immidiately.
 
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tenn84 said:
Not to sound racist or anything, but do you think getting a black coach, such as Strong or Taggart, would give us any edge as far as recruiting?
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Is Saban black? Is any of the top 5 coaches black? Your answer is your an idiot, kill thread please :banghead2:
 
#33
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tenn84 said:
I don't see why everyone thinks this is such a big deal. I mean think of this way...If some white dude comes into this black guy's house, and he is like "what do you think about that new Jay-Z track, it's hot yo"...the black kid, will be like WTF. But if someone like Taggart or Strong comes in and starts talking about rap and stuff, they probably feel like they are being genuine. Again, I'm not being racist, just saying that different cultures relate to each other differently.
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Any adult male talking to teenage kids about similar music, regardless of genre = massive massive MASSIVE fail.
 
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No but if it is as I fear, we have become "socialistic" and could potentially hire a "minority" just for the extra funding smh.
 
#35
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I think its the age of guys like Sumlin and Strong that make them successful more so than race. I'm sure race does help them in that most college players are african american and they can relate to them more so than some old stuffy white guy but those guys are all young and high energy which is a greater asset in relating to kids. I'm white and I would probably relate to Sumlin way more than Saban.
 
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DNBVOL said:
Does having a black president making the world a better place? Nope
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We have a black president! Wow, good for us i need to get off the sport's site's and get out into the world sometime!
 
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#40
I think it is all about how you relate to people. African-American folks are incredibly diverse within their demographic just like the entire county. If you can only relate to one sort of person, then you will fail.

I am an Appalachian-American male (read hillbilly) who works in a position with students who are primarily African-American and Hispanic. I am in charge of building networks and recruiting individuals for an academic program. Every single person I have worked with is a unique individual. One universal thing I note about current 18-24 year olds is that they are not too hung up on racial issues (like people 50+) and a large swath of individuals in this age group identify as more than one race.

Long story short, Strong will be a good recruiter if he has a knack for relating to young people. Whatever influence his race has had on leading him to have that skill-set is something completely unique to him and not something just normally granted to persons of color.
 
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tenn84 said:
Not to sound racist or anything, but do you think getting a black coach, such as Strong or Taggart, would give us any edge as far as recruiting?
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It's not about skin color, it's about getting a coach with a dynamic personality. That's what draws recruits. Gruden and Franklin types are the kinds of coaches we need to be looking for. We need a Bruce Pearl type for football.
 
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tenn84 said:
I don't see why everyone thinks this is such a big deal. I mean think of this way...If some white dude comes into this black guy's house, and he is like "what do you think about that new Jay-Z track, it's hot yo"...the black kid, will be like WTF. But if someone like Taggart or Strong comes in and starts talking about rap and stuff, they probably feel like they are being genuine. Again, I'm not being racist, just saying that different cultures relate to each other differently.
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College coaches don't need to try to relate to the kids at the kids' level, they have enough bros. They need to act like an adult, professional coach who can develop the player to the next level, help guide them thru the challenges of college etc. Players who look at race first and coaching ability second may not have things in the right order.
 
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The answer falls somewhere in the middle. It will help in some cases but doubt it will be a deciding factor. The comparison with Saban is crazy. You compare the black coach vs a white coach of the same caliber. People go where they feel comfortable, sometimes that does deal with race.
 
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Rifleman said:
I think it is all about how you relate to people. African-American folks are incredibly diverse within their demographic just like the entire county. If you can only relate to one sort of person, then you will fail.

I am an Appalachian-American male (read hillbilly) who works in a position with students who are primarily African-American and Hispanic. I am in charge of building networks and recruiting individuals for an academic program. Every single person I have worked with is a unique individual. One universal thing I note about current 18-24 year olds is that they are not too hung up on racial issues (like people 50+) and a large swath of individuals in this age group identify as more than one race.

Long story short, Strong will be a good recruiter if he has a knack for relating to young people. Whatever influence his race has had on leading him to have that skill-set is something completely unique to him and not something just normally granted to persons of color.
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Well said.
 
#48
#48
I don't care if our coach is purple with pink polka-dots as long as he wins. The race issue is so overplayed now.
 
#49
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For many years, Fulmer was considered the best recruiter/closer in the game. Even at the time of his firing, we were in the top 10 on rivals.

If Fulmer ever tried to talk about Ice T to black kids, he would've been laughed straight out of their house.

He attracted kids because parents trusted him, and kids looked to him as having their best interests and caring about them as people.
 
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