Boren Postures For BIG XII Network

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OU has two options at this point. Sign up for the SEC or keep their mouth shut.
 
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LouderVol said:
that I get, but the little brother talk isn't as valid as a Vandy is. so quality of the conference wouldn't be hurt by adding them, even if a TV deal was.
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It's valid in terms of market expansion. If the SEC is going to expand, they don't want waste two teams in a state of less than 4 million.

This, like most things, is all about money. Mainly TV money. Bringing in 2 teams for a low population state doesn't help in that regard.
 
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LouderVol said:
that I get, but the little brother talk isn't as valid as a Vandy is. so quality of the conference wouldn't be hurt by adding them, even if a TV deal was.
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Comparing them to Vandy is apples and oranges. Vandy is in because they are charter members and no one is going to force them out. If they weren't in, nobody would give them a second thought because adding them would bring virtually nothing to the conference.

Getting OU alone would give the SEC everything needed for the area.
 
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vols-1 said:
OU has two options at this point. Sign up for the SEC or keep their mouth shut.
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wut??? I thought Mizzou already owed the east. You really want their DADDYS to come spank you to? :mf_surrender:
 
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TrueOrange said:
Meh. More of that it seemed to pretty well emphasize how far off the OP was from the reality of how the balance of power sits in that conference (and how things work there).
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Boys in Austin overplayed their hand this last go round. They're still the power player in the Big 12, but they've come back to the pack. Their football fortunes right now are below Baylor,TCU and Oklahoma and in the same stratosphere as Oklahoma State. They can buy anything but dollars doesn't make their coaching better and recruiting follows that course. Strong will most likely get them back near the top if not solely, but they ain't running herd over the conference and if anyone remembers the end of the Southwest Conference? Baylor, with everything being equal, should have been jettisoned like TCU into the Mountain West...they were shoehorned in because they have major ties in Texas politics...Texas boosters didn't want them... had no choice. :aggressive:
 
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bamawriter said:
The LHN is a massive millstone around the Big XII's collective neck. If you are a major network looking to launch a conference network, would you want to partner with the Big XII, already a 10 team league with several small markets in the footprint, if you knew that Texas wouldn't be included in the package?
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ESPN isn't a "major" network"???

They don't own college football, right???

They don't own the LHN, right???

Do they have "any" kind of deal with the ACC???

Why would they sponsor a LHN and not a Bama, God knows that Bama has more National Tiles than there are nations.

Do they teach math in Bama or just "rytton"?
 
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BUBear said:
ESPN isn't a "major" network"???

They don't own college football, right???

They don't own the LHN, right???

Do they have "any" kind of deal with the ACC???

Why would they sponsor a LHN and not a Bama, God knows that Bama has more National Tiles than there are nations.

Do they teach math in Bama or just "rytton"?
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He knows the answer...he just has to pretend he doesn't for a few hours. :)
 
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butchna said:
Disagree with you and I'm a "stalker"? Quite an ego on you in addition to knowing it all. :)
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You didn't disagree. You offered no input on the thread topic at all.

You jumped in to insult another poster. That's stalking.

So howdy again, stalker.
 
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BUBear said:
ESPN isn't a "major" network"???

They don't own college football, right???

They don't own the LHN, right???

Do they have "any" kind of deal with the ACC???

Why would they sponsor a LHN and not a Bama, God knows that Bama has more National Tiles than there are nations.

Do they teach math in Bama or just "rytton"?
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Is ESPN working behind the scenes to create a stand-alone Big XII Network? If not, what exactly is your point?
 
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bamawriter said:
You didn't disagree. You offered no input on the thread topic at all.

You jumped in to insult another poster. That's stalking.

So howdy again, stalker.
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You smarted off (once again) at somebody in your guise as somebody who knows everything more than everyone. You need me to tell you otherwise...you're welcome Alabama visitor. :hi:
 
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bamawriter said:
Is ESPN working behind the scenes to create a stand-alone Big XII Network? If not, what exactly is your point?
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The Big 12 Commissioner alluded to a Big 12 Network and the money it could make for it's members. Wouldn't work in conjunction with TLN as far as ESPN goes. Make too much sense? :)
 
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butchna said:
The Big 12 Commissioner alluded to a Big 12 Network and the money it could make for it's members. Wouldn't work in conjunction with TLN as far as ESPN goes. Make too much sense? :)
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Actually it was OU's president. I can see how that would be difficult to discern since it was in the thread title.

And the fact that Texas' network is gumming up the works is exactly what I and pretty much everyone other than BUBear (a biased Baylor fan) and you (a stalker with reading comprehension issues) have been saying this entire thread.

So thanks for rephrasing my point.
 
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bamawriter said:
You didn't disagree. You offered no input on the thread topic at all.

You jumped in to insult another poster. That's stalking.

So howdy again, stalker.
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So your "input" was on Baylor's urinary capabilities? Pretty salty stuff. :thumbsup: I know that you're frustrated because you can't word whip me and your only recourse is to claim "stalking" when I call you on your bull. I really don't look for you on this forum but when I note you're waxing poetic fake expertise on UT sports and Big 12 Conference issues, I feel the need to not so gently correct you. I'm a Vols fan and I reside in Big 12 country so between the two of us I have a tad more rooting interest. You're stalking on MY GROUND Bama fan. :aggressive:
 
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butchna said:
I'm a Vols fan and I reside in Big 12 country so between the two of us I have a tad more rooting interest. You're stalking on MY GROUND Bama fan. :aggressive:
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You're such an expert that you don't know the difference between the Big XII commissioner and the president at OU.

You'll have to forgive me if where you live doesn't exactly inspire confidence in your knowledge.
 
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bamawriter said:
Actually it was OU's president. I can see how that would be difficult to discern since it was in the thread title.

And the fact that Texas' network is gumming up the works is exactly what I and pretty much everyone other than BUBear (a biased Baylor fan) and you (a stalker with reading comprehension issues) have been saying this entire thread.

So thanks for rephrasing my point.
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No...not talking about Boren...Bowlsby alluded to Big 12 Network aspirations on a Fox Sports Southwest interview...he didn't go scorched earth because...he's the commissioner? How come the Baylor fan and the Texas resident of over 25 years can't know as much about what's going on as the resident know-it-all Bama fan? Trick question...we know more. :shhh: You're intruding on OUR subject...quit acting spoiled and we'll let you participate. :)
 
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bamawriter said:
You're such an expert that you don't know the difference between the Big XII commissioner and the president at OU.

You'll have to forgive me if where you live doesn't exactly inspire confidence in your knowledge.
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I forgave you a long time ago when you started rambling about my Vols... You're kinda like Al Gore... You seem to need people to think you're more intelligent than you've demonstrated. Always kinda felt sorry for you...not enough to lie and say you're right though. :)
 
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BUBear said:
Can they really muster the "best" legal firepower in the state? Really??? The tabacco industry couldn't but you're saying the whorns can?

$14 billion is only $14 billion. The state is still thanking Team Tabacco. The whorns are well aware of the names on our new Law School and the field at our new stadium (these guys work for free).

But in case they still aren't sure, Chancellor Ken Starr just might pull Bill Clinton's law license out of his back pocket and let them have a little peak, Ken's cool like that.
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Not sure what "tabacco" has to do with anything, but yes, yes, they most certainly can. I'm not impressed by your law school getting a new building. Texas's law school, if you want to open that can, is not only far superior, but the university has a practically unlimited mountain of cash. They can buy the best lawyers in the state.
 
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What is a Baylor and why are they talking about football on a Tennessee Football forum?

Big12 is the Big East of 5-6 years ago. Everyone knows they're on the way out, no one really watches the games ( I think they're mostly on regional Fox or something) , and a handful of the teams currently in the Big12-4+2 are going to be in non-AQ conferences within 5 years.

My bet is Texas, TTech, OU, OSU, Kansas, and maybe TCU (due to DFW) move on to greener pastures. The directional schools and WVU all get left out. No amount of bad defense and 70 point games against Nobody U. will save the other schools. They simply don't have the viewers, academic prowess, or tradition to warrant invites from any of the power leagues.

Texas is obviously in the driver's seat, and they control the fate of the conference with their move. Doing patchwork like the dying Big East did with Cinci, USF, and UConn will not work. They've kind of already started with WVU and TCU, however TCU has proven to not be a total waste on the field.
 
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BlueHalo said:
What is a Baylor and why are they talking about football on a Tennessee Football forum?

Big12 is the Big East of 5-6 years ago. Everyone knows they're on the way out, no one really watches the games ( I think they're mostly on regional Fox or something) , and a handful of the teams currently in the Big12-4+2 are going to be in non-AQ conferences within 5 years.

My bet is Texas, TTech, OU, OSU, Kansas, and maybe TCU (due to DFW) move on to greener pastures. The directional schools and WVU all get left out. No amount of bad defense and 70 point games against Nobody U. will save the other schools. They simply don't have the viewers, academic prowess, or tradition to warrant invites from any of the power leagues.

Texas is obviously in the driver's seat, and they control the fate of the conference with their move. Doing patchwork like the dying Big East did with Cinci, USF, and UConn will not work. They've kind of already started with WVU and TCU, however TCU has proven to not be a total waste on the field.
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Bama was talking about Baylor's conference like it was his own...kinda how he does about the Vols. :). This is a thread about the Big 12...in a Vols forum...with unsolicited contributions by the usual Bama suspects. :)
 
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BlueHalo said:
What is a Baylor and why are they talking about football on a Tennessee Football forum?

Big12 is the Big East of 5-6 years ago. Everyone knows they're on the way out, no one really watches the games ( I think they're mostly on regional Fox or something) , and a handful of the teams currently in the Big12-4+2 are going to be in non-AQ conferences within 5 years.

My bet is Texas, TTech, OU, OSU, Kansas, and maybe TCU (due to DFW) move on to greener pastures. The directional schools and WVU all get left out. No amount of bad defense and 70 point games against Nobody U. will save the other schools. They simply don't have the viewers, academic prowess, or tradition to warrant invites from any of the power leagues.

Texas is obviously in the driver's seat, and they control the fate of the conference with their move. Doing patchwork like the dying Big East did with Cinci, USF, and UConn will not work. They've kind of already started with WVU and TCU, however TCU has proven to not be a total waste on the field.
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Where are they moving to?

SECw? Arky and aTm say NO.
SECe? Mizzou says NO.
PAC? Not after punking them in the last go-around.
BIG? Nebraska says NO.

You're Sooo silly.
 
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BUBear said:
Where are they moving to?

SECw? Arky and aTm say NO.
SECe? Mizzou says NO.
PAC? Not after punking them in the last go-around.
BIG? Nebraska says NO.

You're Sooo silly.
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Do you honestly think Mizzzou, A&M or Arkansas have enough juice to keep Texas or OU out of the SEC, if the conference decides to expand?
 
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BUBear said:
Where are they moving to?

SECw? Arky and aTm say NO.
SECe? Mizzou says NO.
PAC? Not after punking them in the last go-around.
BIG? Nebraska says NO.

You're Sooo silly.
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I don't even blame you for being delusional. But Texas can essentially go where they want including independence. Eventually they'll get tired of propping up the big12-4+2. The dominos will eventually fall.
 
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