Boxing or MMA (UFC)

Which do you like better, boxing or Mixed Martial Arts (UFC)?


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#26
#26
But you said that they have more events and its irrelavent but the reason they are making more money is because they have more events, thus making the number of events releavent.

The reason they make more money is because they have sold more ppv to more people. Whether its too a larger number of events, is irrelevant to me because boxing can have as many events as they want. Just like UFC.

For a single event, boxing is more popular. But that is only an event like Mayweather/De La Hoya. For the rest UFC sells more ppv. There was a special on MSNBC Friday night, discussing boxing losing ground to UFC. I'm only restating the story as they presented it. No reason for me to think MSNBC is biased or made up numbers.
 
#27
#27
As far as money goes, give MMA time. it's still in its infancy as far as tradition goes. Once all the Bert Sugars of the world finally check out, all the romanticism about boxing will go right along with it.

and then Boxing will truly reap the benefits of Don King.


as far as the Argument, it's simple.

I like Home Run Derby, but it's only ONE aspect of the sport. same with the QB challenge.

would you rather watch a punching and clinching contest or all aspects of a FIGHT?


thought so.
 
#28
#28
I've been a Boxing fan for most of my life, I remember watching Hagler/Leonard with my grandfather, pulling for Marvin, and loved Azumah Nelson and JCC as i grew up.

So, naturally, i chose Boxing. I fought around 30 amateur bouts, and follow boxing religiously to this day.

But, this thread is stupid. Boxing purists don't care for MMA, i think it's pure white trash, personally, and MMA guys hate boxing for whatever reasons they have.

They're not the same, it's like Boxing and WWF, except MMA is WWF but real. If thats your can of beans, then fine, i'm not going to trash you because of it. But i choose boxing.

Also, MMA is contract based, so mega fights are easier to make, whereas each boxer is basically a business on his own. The sanctioning bodies are forking things up, but, nobody cares about the Alphabets other than IBF, WBC, and WBO, and naturally, The Ring, belts.
 
#29
#29
would you rather watch a punching and clinching contest or all aspects of a FIGHT?


thought so.

Ever watch club fighters go to town? Or, perhaps, Hatton/Tszyu, Castillo/Corrales I, or Ward/Gatti I? Morales/Paquiao I, or Juan Manuel Marquez/Pacquiao?

Sure, i named big fights, because you don't see enough boxing to make a reasonable judgement of the sport. Thats when i get mad at MMA guys, when they trash boxing by watching Lewis/Golota or something of the sort.
 
#30
#30
Ever watch club fighters go to town? Or, perhaps, Hatton/Tszyu, Castillo/Corrales I, or Ward/Gatti I? Morales/Paquiao I, or Juan Manuel Marquez/Pacquiao?

Sure, i named big fights, because you don't see enough boxing to make a reasonable judgement of the sport. Thats when i get mad at MMA guys, when they trash boxing by watching Lewis/Golota or something of the sort.

I've been a Boxing fan for most of my life, I remember watching Hagler/Leonard with my grandfather, pulling for Marvin, and loved Azumah Nelson and JCC as i grew up.

So, naturally, i chose Boxing. I fought around 30 amateur bouts, and follow boxing religiously to this day.

But, this thread is stupid. Boxing purists don't care for MMA, i think it's pure white trash, personally, and MMA guys hate boxing for whatever reasons they have.

They're not the same, it's like Boxing and WWF, except MMA is WWF but real. If thats your can of beans, then fine, i'm not going to trash you because of it. But i choose boxing.

Also, MMA is contract based, so mega fights are easier to make, whereas each boxer is basically a business on his own. The sanctioning bodies are forking things up, but, nobody cares about the Alphabets other than IBF, WBC, and WBO, and naturally, The Ring, belts.

I agree with you even though I'm watching "UFC Best of 2007" as I'm typing this.

The one thing I've never understood about boxing is the obsession with the heavyweights. I'd much rather Super Middleweight and under fight.
 
#31
#31
I agree with you even though I'm watching "UFC Best of 2007" as I'm typing this.

The one thing I've never understood about boxing is the obsession with the heavyweights. I'd much rather Super Middleweight and under fight.

A Heavyweight used to be a 215lb athlete, a la Ali, Frazier, and others. Mike Tyson became the rage, built as a puncher, with heavy hands and a quick release. But he was a flawed fighter, much as he was a flawed individual. Cus D'Amato did him well, but also did him very wrong. Cus was Mike's father figure, but he let Mike do whatever he wanted, because Mike was Cus's last chance to be famous. I'm tired of hearing people praise Tyson, he was wasted potential, and a mediocre boxer, when all was said and done.

Those who sing the praises of Tyson wouldn't know a Boxer if Azumah Nelson punched out their grandmother at Thanksgiving dinner.
 
#32
#32
I'll just say this.....I'm glad i didn't pay 60 bucks to watch the Mayweather-Hatton fight.
 
#33
#33
The UFC broke the pay-per-view industry's all-time records for a single year of business and generated over $200 million in revenue during 2006, according to two credible media outlets.

Many fans of both boxing and MMA have wondered whether the UFC has already surpassed boxing. The numbers show that not only is the UFC bigger than boxing today, but it's also bigger than boxing ever was from a PPV revenue standpoint. The all-time record year for boxing was 1999, with just over $200 million in combined PPV revenue, and the UFC broke that record by over $20 million in 2006.

Leading the way was UFC 66 (Chuck Liddell vs. Tito Ortiz), which drew approximately 1,050,000 pay-per-view buys and grossed approximately $41.95 million in PPV revenue.

Prior to UFC 66, Zuffa publicly and repeatedly predicted that the event would draw 1.2 million PPV buys. While the event fell short of meeting that prediction, the total of 1,050,000 still topped boxing's biggest event of 2006 (Oscar de la Hoya vs. Ricardo Mayorga) by more than 100,000 buys, as De la Hoya vs. Mayorga drew approximately 925,000 PPV buys.

The UFC's second-biggest pay-per-view event of 2006 was UFC 61 (Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock and Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski), which drew approximately 775,000 PPV buys and grossed approximately $30.96 million in PPV revenue.

The UFC's third-biggest PPV event of 2006 was UFC 60 (Matt Hughes vs. Royce Gracie), which drew a final number of approximately 620,000 PPV buys and generated approximately $24.77 million in PPV revenue.

Several other UFC PPV events in 2006 surpassed the mark of 500,000 PPV buys (and thus $20 million in PPV revenue), as the UFC's average for its ten PPV events in 2006 was approximately 522,500 buys per event.

Even if one were to take the three biggest UFC events of 2006 out of the equation, the seven remaining UFC PPVs in 2006 still managed to average approximately 400,000 PPV buys per event.

Boxing Has Second-Biggest Year Ever, WWE's Domestic PPV Buyrates Collapse

The only records that the UFC has not broken are the all-time boxing records for individual events, which still stand at approximately 2.0 million buys for a heavyweight fight and approximately 1.4 million buys for a non-heavyweight fight. The upcoming fight between Oscar de la Hoya and Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is expected to break the 1.4 million mark and perhaps even approach the 2.0 million mark.

While the perception is that boxing's PPV business has rapidly declined, the fact of the matter is that 2006 was the second-biggest year in boxing history at the PPV box office, with gross PPV revenue of $177 million. That would likely be seen as a far bigger news story than it currently is, if it weren't for the fact that the UFC blew away boxing's all-time records during the same year.

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#34
#34
I agree with you even though I'm watching "UFC Best of 2007" as I'm typing this.

The one thing I've never understood about boxing is the obsession with the heavyweights. I'd much rather Super Middleweight and under fight.

Thats because right now there are none worth watching except the big Russian...
 
#35
#35
I'll just say this.....I'm glad i didn't pay 60 bucks to watch the Mayweather-Hatton fight.

It was a good fight, with a good undercard. Boxing is glad you didn't support it by wishing for Double Axehandles and Boston Crabs, with a Polish Hammer for the finish.

MMA folks trash Boxing, without knowing Boxing, and that pisses me off. If i give my frank opinion, and say "If i wanted to see white trash grab, hold, and choke one another until they can't move, i'd go to the bar tonight and watch the white trash fight over the 450lb chick in the parking lot".

But i don't, you MMA guys are really showing yourselves as morons, though, why does "Boxing sucks" mean so much to you? Because you aren't proficient? i mean, why the hatred for boxing?

Is it an inferiority complex? Boxing will survive, despite the fact you idiots trash it
 
#37
#37
Thats because right now there are none worth watching except the big Russian...

Wlad and Sam Peter are it for the Heavies, unless Vitalit comes back...Lame time for the heavyweights, but, theres lots of classes under 200 that also fight, you know
 
#38
#38
I paid the 60 but after watching it again tonight on HBO I agree... Maywheather was never hurt nor challenged...

Cotto will bring it to Floyd better than Ricky....Ricky is a natural Junior Welter, the step up hurts him, he actually showed better against Floyd than against Luis Colazzo at 147, IMHO. Miguel Cotto is a lean 147, could fight better at 160 or 168, i figure him and Floyd will fight at 160 or so, and Floyd will have problems
 
#41
#41
I would LOVE to see Mayweather-Cotto...

Mayweather won't fight Cotto at MSG, due to the large PR population....I hoped Ricky could teach Floyd his lesson, but didnt really believe he could....If anyone today who can floor that cocky piece of shlt, it's Miguel, i go to sleep at night smiling thinking of that big overhand left making Floyd's eyes roll into his head....Money is the key, and Cotto brings money, with his Puerto Rican following...Mayweather is not a moneymaker, people buy his fights in hopes of seeing him get laid down.
 
#42
#42
O yes, looking foward to the fight on the 19th of Jan...

Tito is gonna lay that washed up ghetto boy down, the real fight is Pavlik Taylor in February...Hope Kelly holds up, Taylor is mad, but if Kelly keeps his head, he should KO him again, Taylor got GIFTS against Hop and Winky, but neither of them would stand in and drum him like Kelly did
 
#45
#45
I've been a Boxing fan for most of my life, I remember watching Hagler/Leonard with my grandfather, pulling for Marvin, and loved Azumah Nelson and JCC as i grew up.

So, naturally, i chose Boxing. I fought around 30 amateur bouts, and follow boxing religiously to this day.

But, this thread is stupid. Boxing purists don't care for MMA, i think it's pure white trash, personally, and MMA guys hate boxing for whatever reasons they have.

They're not the same, it's like Boxing and WWF, except MMA is WWF but real. If thats your can of beans, then fine, i'm not going to trash you because of it. But i choose boxing.

Also, MMA is contract based, so mega fights are easier to make, whereas each boxer is basically a business on his own. The sanctioning bodies are forking things up, but, nobody cares about the Alphabets other than IBF, WBC, and WBO, and naturally, The Ring, belts.

I've always felt that MMA/UFC/Whatever league pops up on FSN or ESPN2 had that "white trash" feel too it.
 
#47
#47
Inconsistency comes from the "shows" not being, oh, what's the word.......

RIGGED. yeah, that's the word. the only way to guarantee pure entertainment with every fight you put out there is to fix them. for more information see McMahon, Vince (who is even having problems with making the fixed ones fun these days)


Let me be perfectly clear on this--

the only things I truly hate about Boxing are it's absolute corruption, and it's inability to acknowledge MMA as legitimate.

Boxing is PART of MMA!!! MMA has become the evolution of combat sport, and those that cannot see that have obviously never set foot on a mat or in a ring.
 
#48
#48
I'd rather watch "pure white trash" in full combat than watch two braindead "professionals" hug each other in a ring for 36 minutes.

When did boxing somehow become the very definition of classy?
 
#49
#49
I'd rather watch "pure white trash" in full combat than watch two braindead "professionals" hug each other in a ring for 36 minutes.

When did boxing somehow become the very definition of classy?

Go back and look at some hyped fights. De La Hoya and Mayweather, I'm sure if you looked out in the crowd you saw big names, businessmen, movie stars, beautiful women all dressed in their best.

What's UFC got?

I'm not saying it's a better sport or anything like that, to tell you the truth I could care less about either of them. I'm saying I'd much rather watch boxing and boxing is looked upon as a classier sport than MMA. Anyday of the week.
 
#50
#50
It was a good fight, with a good undercard. Boxing is glad you didn't support it by wishing for Double Axehandles and Boston Crabs, with a Polish Hammer for the finish.

MMA folks trash Boxing, without knowing Boxing, and that pisses me off. If i give my frank opinion, and say "If i wanted to see white trash grab, hold, and choke one another until they can't move, i'd go to the bar tonight and watch the white trash fight over the 450lb chick in the parking lot".

But i don't, you MMA guys are really showing yourselves as morons, though, why does "Boxing sucks" mean so much to you? Because you aren't proficient? i mean, why the hatred for boxing?

Is it an inferiority complex? Boxing will survive, despite the fact you idiots trash it

I have no problem with you giving your frank opinion....

Let me offer my own...... You can keep your little labels and name calling to yourself. Out of respect to the rules of this forum I'm not going to respond in kind to your little rant.

I like boxing as well....I'm sorry that the poll questions didn't make that clear enough for you. I like the prospects of Paul Williams, I think Jermain Taylor is a bit of a pus..... and I am here to admit that I was so starved for a good heavyweight I actually split a David Tua PPV with someone once. unfortunately for you I don't fit into your little pigeon hole.

Now....If you want to see a delicate mix of grabbing I suggest you watch the hatton\mayweather fight again for that. Hell between all the hugging between the boxers and the ref, it looked like a 3-way title match by the third round!

Man...are you so ready to lump MMA and WWE together forgetting that they copied some of their more ridiculous traits from boxing? Announcers posing as hypemen, musical entrances, the manure filled build up which may or may not include threats to children, eating someone whole or the typical pre-fight interview brawl which leads to both men hugging each other and crying....at least MMA doesn't have Larry Merchant.

MMA isn't without weak points but I'd rather watch that than see that fight again. I like boxing but I'd rather watch a taped UFC show then see the next upcoming blockbuster between Roy "I should've stopped boxing four years ago" Jones and Felix "heart of a earthworm" Trinidad.
 

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