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[LawVol13]

Not a chance. Duke matches our size and shoots well. Monroe is as soft as we are and they play dumb for us.

Duke has issues, but this is their best team in years. Big and shoots well. Can't defend a good point, but we don't have one of those and we don't hae wings to expose their issues with quick guys driving it.
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I don't see it, man. Georgetown would kill us with that Princeton offense just like Vandy did twice. Monroe may be soft, but I'm not sure who we have that can guard him. Also, if Georgetown is soft, I'm not sure what that makes Duke considering Georgetown manhandled them for 40 minutes.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I don't see it, man. Georgetown would kill us with that Princeton offense just like Vandy did twice. Monroe may be soft, but I'm not sure who we have that can guard him. Also, if Georgetown is soft, I'm not sure what that makes Duke considering Georgetown manhandled them for 40 minutes.

Georgetown won't regularly beat Duke. Duke played poorly, as they do every game in which Singler tries to make headlines. When the let Smith and Scheyer make offense with some bench shooting, they can play. Issues are on D.
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[LawVol13]

Georgetown won't regularly beat Duke. Duke played poorly, as they do every game in which Singler tries to make headlines. When the let Smith and Scheyer make offense with some bench shooting, they can play. Issues are on D.
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I agree with that. I just like our athleticism against Duke. I think Georgetown matches our athleticism and runs an offense that we have really struggled in defending this year.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I agree with that. I just like our athleticism against Duke. I think Georgetown matches our athleticism and runs an offense that we have really struggled in defending this year.

Georgetown can't shoot with Vandy. They can D with them, but are soft. JT2 would run a bunch of those guys.
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[LawVol13]

Georgetown can't shoot with Vandy. They can D with them, but are soft. JT2 would run a bunch of those guys.
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I agree. However, they essentially shot layups the whole second half against Duke, and I'm concerned they might do that to us as well.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I agree. However, they essentially shot layups the whole second half against Duke, and I'm concerned they might do that to us as well.

Duke can't defend either. Once down, they either shoot their way back, or get drilled. They can't clamp it down like they could when K was willing to recruit the elite guys.
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[LawVol13]

Duke can't defend either. Once down, they either shoot their way back, or get drilled. They can't clamp it down like they could when K was willing to recruit the elite guys.
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Duke's half-court offense is a thing of beauty. I really enjoy watching them play. However, I just feel like we have a big advantage athletically that may offset their offensive efficiency. I don't feel we have that advantage against Georgetown, and I feel they also run a very, very good half-court offense.

You may be right that Georgetown's the better matchup; but I just don't see it.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Duke's half-court offense is a thing of beauty. I really enjoy watching them play. However, I just feel like we have a big advantage athletically that may offset their offensive efficiency. I don't feel we have that advantage against Georgetown, and I feel they also run a very, very good half-court offense.

You may be right that Georgetown's the better matchup; but I just don't see it.

Where is our athleticism? We have length and little more. We're decently athletic, but aren't going to blow anyone away.

Duke's O is now spread it wide and inside out for the 3. Their paint can score a little more now so it's slightly more effective. The real difference is that Scheyer and Singler are long and Smith can get into the lane. They still rely to heavily on shooting it well, whic I know for sure CBK taught K is a no-no.
Sounds like you think too much of GTown and their coach.

Neither is a great matchup and neither is terrible. I don't like that our team can't exploit Duke's big weakness.
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[LawVol13]

Where is our athleticism? We have length and little more. We're decently athletic, but aren't going to blow anyone away.

Sounds like you think too much of GTown and their coach.
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I think our posts are way, way more athletic than Duke's. I think Maze is more athletic than Scheyer (although Scheyer is the better overall player). I think Prince is more athletic than Singler.

I'm not some huge JTIII fan; I just realize that we've struggled with that style of offense this year. And it hasn't been because Vandy rained threes on us; it has been because they have shot layups on us. Nothing I have seen makes me think we could stop Georgetown from doing what Vandy has done to us twice.

 

[hatvol96]

Where is our athleticism? We have length and little more. We're decently athletic, but aren't going to blow anyone away.

Duke's O is now spread it wide and inside out for the 3. Their paint can score a little more now so it's slightly more effective. The real difference is that Scheyer and Singler are long and Smith can get into the lane. They still rely to heavily on shooting it well, whic I know for sure CBK taught K is a no-no.
Sounds like you think too much of GTown and their coach.

Neither is a great matchup and neither is terrible. I don't like that our team can't exploit Duke's big weakness.
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While playing without Freeman is a partial explanation, Georgetown looked utterly inept for the majority of the game tonight.

 

[BigPapaVol]

While playing without Freeman is a partial explanation, Georgetown looked utterly inept for the majority of the game tonight.

They looked just awful. Freeman matters, but not that much. GTown is surprisingly soft. JT2 would go ape on a guy like Monroe.
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[BigPapaVol]

I think our posts are way, way more athletic than Duke's. I think Maze is more athletic than Scheyer (although Scheyer is the better overall player). I think Prince is more athletic than Singler.

I'm not some huge JTIII fan; I just realize that we've struggled with that style of offense this year. And it hasn't been because Vandy rained threes on us; it has been because they have shot layups on us. Nothing I have seen makes me think we could stop Georgetown from doing what Vandy has done to us twice.

Our bigs are absolutely unathletic, save Hall, who makes up for his athleticism by being hopelessly lost for the majority of his minutes.

The matchups won't work as you suggest. Maze will be matched up on Nolan Smith, while Scheyer will deal with Hopson or Prince with Singler taking the other. Whoever Maze actually guards should have about 30.
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[hatvol96]

JT2 would go ape on a guy like Monroe.
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That's the difference in a coach who had to fight and claw for everything he got in life and one who went to Princeton and has led a charmed professional existance.

 

[LawVol13]

]Our bigs are absolutely unathletic,[/B] save Hall, who makes up for his athleticism by being hopelessly lost for the majority of his minutes.

The matchups won't work as you suggest. Maze will be matched up on Nolan Smith, while Scheyer will deal with Hopson or Prince with Singler taking the other. Whoever Maze actually guards should have about 30.
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Chism? I agree about Hall, btw.

To the comment about Maze: I have actually changed my opinion of Maze defensively. I think he did an excellent job against Downey twice, and I thought he outplayed Collins. Duke has no one as good as either one of those guys.

 

[BigPapaVol]

That's the difference in a coach who had to fight and claw for everything he got in life and one who went to Princeton and has led a charmed professional existance.

It amazes me the number of people who think the two are similar.

JT2 was a great father figure, but could rain on a parade in a heartbeat. JT3 doesn't have that. Monroe would be a different player under JT2 or would cease to be a Hoya.
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[hatvol96]

It amazes me the number of people who think the two are similar.

JT2 was a great father figure, but could rain on a parade in a heartbeat. JT3 doesn't have that. Monroe would be a different player under JT2 or would cease to be a Hoya.
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JT2 is just below Knight, Chaney, Tark, and Don Haskins on my pantheon of coaches. Anyone who publicly crucifies the NCAA for their institutional bigotry and rampant hypocrisy is alright with me.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Chism? I agree about Hall, btw.

To the comment about Maze: I have actually changed my opinion of Maze defensively. I think he did an excellent job against Downey twice, and I thought he outplayed Collins. Duke has no one as good as either one of those guys.

Chism might be more athletic than Williams, but not much.

Maze is still a weak handle and awful defender. We just dared Downey to beat us over the top, which is his weakness. In a man, Maze is a problem. Maze is essentially a two man trying to be a PG.

Duke simply runs the O through Scheyer and starts him with the ball becausehe doesn't turn it over. Nolan is the PG and can flat play. He's plenty good. We'd love to have him.
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[Behuman13]

I'd rather be a 4 or 6 seed rather than a 5..
Those 5-12 matchups are always scary

 

[LawVol13]

Chism might be more athletic than Williams, but not much.

Maze is still a weak handle and awful defender. We just dared Downey to beat us over the top, which is his weakness. In a man, Maze is a problem. Maze is essentially a two man trying to be a PG.

Duke simply runs the O through Scheyer and starts him with the ball becausehe doesn't turn it over. Nolan is the PG and can flat play. He's plenty good. We'd love to have him.
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Every team dares Downey to beat them over the top. The issue is keeping him in front of them, something that Maze shockingly did pretty well.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Every team dares Downey to beat them over the top. The issue is keeping him in front of them, something that Maze shockingly did pretty well.

Not really. The guy just flat couldn't make one. Downey is at a disadvantage because he has no help so our long wings help a ton. Goins defended him better IMO. Maze has improved, but minimally.

His big nights have all been similar: awful shooting but bulk tries.
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