Bray will never

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CountVolcula said:
He can if he focuses on learning the game and stops trying to rely on his talent alone

If he does, he could be good

If not, he will be the next Jeff George.

All arm, no game
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Won't even be in Jeff George's league...Casey Clausen ring a bell???:salute:
 
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rockytop114 said:
start in the nfl .
if ainge and casey couldnt make it no way in hell bray does
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There is no way he falls out of the top 45 picks

AND

He will be a starter within 3 years

Just because some fans do not approve of his personality doesn't mean he is not a supremely talented NFL ready QB.

Im pretty sure he could start for the NY jets this week
 
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DenverVol01 said:
Is that really needed? He's a Vol and therefore I wish him the best. I don't see how anyone can fault any jr for leaving early if they have the opportunity. If the money is there take it while you can and see where the chips fall.

Best of luck TB. It was fun watching you sling the rock. Go Vols!
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This X10
 
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Honestly I hope bray falls flat on his face. Worst era in Tennessee history he was apart of. I've had my love for tennessee qbs Manning, Martin, Casey, Ainge, hell even Crompton but Bray adiós. His production will be missed but he will not.
 
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velovol said:
I wouldnt write the kid off,
if he is counted on next year to start i dont like his chances
if he is put into a solid system and can mature a little bit then he may be fine.
Ainge didnt make it due most likely to drug abuse
Clausen just wasnt an NFL QB.
So comparing him to those two guys is pointless
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Dozens of college QBs every year with strong arms don't make it in the NFL. Bray has NO mobility and has not demonstrated ANY leadership skills...best game for UT was S. Carolina this year--but that was his only good game against the better SEC competition.

And comparing Bray to Clausen is pointless because it DEFEATS your confidence in your own opinion. It's all just opinion anyway--and we will all just have to wait and see...

BUT, when considering the evidence--BRAY's on the field performance in the SEC is pathetic when compared to Clausen, Ainge, and even to Andy Kelly. None of those guys made it in the NFL. Therefore--I conclude that he won't be taken before the 4th round and will not last more than 2 yrs in the NFL.

Not bashing--just being a fan who refuses to wear the orange-colored glasses. :salute:
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Bray is no where near the QB Ainge was. Ainge mad up for his weak arm strength with being accurate and efficient. Bray is just all arm and lucky. He should have had about double the picks he had this year had it not been for WR's knocking balls down. Ainge was a victim of going to the Jets and his addiction. It's a shame that someone can do something and not realize how harmful it is. He's clean now and he, along with Casey are my favorite two QB's!
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Casey led UT to a 5 ot victory over alabubba, that's real leadership ! Refuse to lose ! :rock:
 
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rockytop114 said:
they both could win Clausen was a 100 times better player than Bray
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I never said Clausen was a better or worse QB than Bray. I said Clasuen just wasnt an NFL QB. Bray has better physical skills than Casey, but in college lacked the apptitude and leadsership casey had.
Therefore making Clausen a better college QB.
 
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I think there is more to him leaving early then just the money. The money isn't all that great outside the 1st round. Just curious if he might be being lead to go pro seeing as there will be a new offense in place. I do wish him luck though.
 
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rockytop114 said:
he should have stayed and got a year of being coached by a good coach
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Bray WAS well coached by Chaney. Bray is Bray's own worst problem. He's immature and chokes under pressure.

That said and in response to the OP, the difference between Bray's physical abilities and those of Ainge and Clausen are significant. If someone can resolve the problems in his head, he has the potential to be a great, not good, NFL QB.
 
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Memphisvol87 said:
Why would anyone even want to play for fans like this. You either cut a player down when he leaves for the NFL or boo them on the field when they have a bad game. He doesn't need to stay and learn a new offense, he is more than talented enough to make throws in the NFL. Why would a 21 year old kid turn down millions to waste time trying to beat Vanderbilt in a totally new offensive scheme. He never won the big games because we've had a terrible coach that established a losers mentality backed by the worst defense to step foot in Neyland. The only thing we need to worry about is why we spent over $10 million dollars so we can all learn a lesson in patience... again.
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He needed to stay and get his education because he does not have the mind set to play in the nfl
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Dozens of college QBs every year with strong arms don't make it in the NFL. Bray has NO mobility and has not demonstrated ANY leadership skills...best game for UT was S. Carolina this year--but that was his only good game against the better SEC competition.

And comparing Bray to Clausen is pointless because it DEFEATS your confidence in your own opinion. It's all just opinion anyway--and we will all just have to wait and see...

BUT, when considering the evidence--BRAY's on the field performance in the SEC is pathetic when compared to Clausen, Ainge, and even to Andy Kelly. None of those guys made it in the NFL. Therefore--I conclude that he won't be taken before the 4th round and will not last more than 2 yrs in the NFL.

Not bashing--just being a fan who refuses to wear the orange-colored glasses. :salute:
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I conclude that you are obviously NOT an NFL talent evaluator:)


If Ryan Tannehill (who went 7-5 in a crappy BIG 12)is selected 8th overall do you really think BRAY falls to the 4th round?

Bray is better than every QB on the JETS roster so do you really think he can only last 2 yrs?

There is no way Bray falls out of the top 45 picks
 
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huskyvol said:
I think there is more to him leaving early then just the money. The money isn't all that great outside the 1st round. Just curious if he might be being lead to go pro seeing as there will be a new offense in place. I do wish him luck though.
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IMO, this is it.... and is the correct decision for him. I think he would have been in a 3 way battle for the starting job. He would have had the best arm but his game management and poise are certainly in question. Everyone will be learning a new system plus he has much less mobility than either of the other two QB's. His best bet was to go now.
 
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Giveem6 said:
Honestly I hope bray falls flat on his face. Worst era in Tennessee history he was apart of. . . .
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And how was that his fault?

Maybe you should blame his parents for choosing to have a child born when they did?

Of course, it may not have been their fault. Maybe you should blame birth control makers, or the Catholic Church, or Jack Daniels?

I don't have a strong opinion about the likelihood of his future success in the NFL. Obviously, he has the physical stature and as much athletic ability as anyone playing in that league. But, I am concerned about his composure. He just seems far too easily distracted on and off the field to do what it takes to be great at the NFL level. But, maybe that can change.

Who knows, but it sure seems that the difference between a good QB and not so good one in the NFL is above the shoulders. They all look great and can throw a football through a brick wall. If it was about athletic ability Heath Shuler would be looking for his gold jacket.
 
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Truth be known he was probably worried about not starting next year.

But my point is he hasn't proven anything and its like he let the hype get to his head .

If he stayed he could have got his degree and maybe improve his skills.

Now if he don't make it he will have nothing to fall back on.
 
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rockytop114 said:
He needed to stay and get his education because he does not have the mind set to play in the nfl
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UT has a program set up where former players can come back and finish school for free. I would leave, and grab the money too if I was Bray.
 
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#45
Sorry but this thread is fail..

Bray has all the talent he needs to be a started in the NFL for many years to come..

The only question is, does he have the work ethic? So your post could read.. I do not think he will work hard enough to stay in the NFL. But to say he will never start? Someone will take a chance on him.. and they will start him, to see if he has the juice..

SO sorry but your post can only fail....
 
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rockytop114 said:
Truth be known he was probably worried about not starting next year.

But my point is he hasn't proven anything and its like he let the hype get to his head .

If he stayed he could have got his degree and maybe improve his skills.

Now if he don't make it he will have nothing to fall back on.
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At the very least he'll probably have about 500,000 plus a year things to fall back on. That's not too shabby.
 
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THUNDERWANG said:
I conclude that you are obviously NOT an NFL talent evaluator:)


If Ryan Tannehill (who went 7-5 in a crappy BIG 12)is selected 8th overall do you really think BRAY falls to the 4th round?

Bray is better than every QB on the JETS roster so do you really think he can only last 2 yrs?

There is no way Bray falls out of the top 45 picks
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well to be fair, tannehill, helped them go 9-3 (beating teams like OU and Texas) the year before that (started playing QB for them from the KU game on)



And really, it's all about how Bray does at the NFL combine (and maybe pro days), not who he could or couldn't beat in college. That'll be what determines where he rises or falls to on the drat boards.
 
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So does anyone have any guesses to where he may end up? How many qb's will be taken before him? Other than his arm strenth I don't see anything that sets him higher than anybody else.
 
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