Breakdown of Incompletions vs Austin Peay

[37620VOL]

Breakdown of Incompletions

First Quarter

11:02 Drop by McCoy 100% catchable



10:22 Too high to White 5% catchable


7:13 Drop by Castles, but huge gain to be had if the pass leads him better, 80% catchable



7:06 Drop by White, perfect pass by Milton, would have been 1st down, 100% catchable


5:57 Pass well wide of McCoy, 0% catchable, good ball is a TD


1:44 Drop by Thornton, perfect pass by Milton, would have been 1st down, 100% catchable



Second Quarter

14:58 Drop by Thornton, perfect pass by Milton while taking a hit, would have been TD, 100% catchable


:28 Pass underthrown to McCoy, 10% catchable


... Third and Fourth Quarters in next post.

 

[37620VOL]

Third Quarter
11:00 Drop by Small, led nicely, lots of open field, 90% catchable


7:00 Pass under duress, had to get it out before White turned, White almost makes incredible play, 10% catchable

6:40 Pass to White, obvious PI not called

:55 Pass (under duress) bounced to Keyton, 0% catchable

Fourth Quarter
No incompletions

RECAP
Milton was 21/23 with 12 incompletions.
6 of the incompletions were more than 80% catchable and another was an obvious PI.
His three worst throws were:

• The zinger through the end zone to McCoy
• Underthrown fade route to McCoy in the endzone
• Underthrown fade route to White in the endzone

 

[camp_steveo]

Thanks.

I just ignore the 'chicken little - the sky is falling' crowd.

First of all, UT is going to run the ball down UF's throat. The Vols are, after all, a 'run first' offense, correct?

And when UF tries to make an adjustment, CJH will make the call to go over the top.

 

[KHVol]

Thanks for the breakdown

 

[JoeMiltonsAgent]

Erroneous posts and possible doctored game pics.

Have been told by numerous VN posters that Milton can't hit the broad side of a barn and needs to be replaced.

Seriously, the guy has his issues and will never be the most accurate passer. Thats a given at this point.

Don't think he deserves the vitriol that's been handed out since Saturday though.

Thanks for putting the effort into posting this.

 

[lifeisdeep]

I didn’t see the game but it seems a little arbitrary to assign a percentage to “catchable” based on nothing but your opinion and then proceed as though that’s fact. Conversely, if your percentages are accurate, Heupel needs to threaten pulling some scholarships.

 

[Bloodrunsorange27]

That was a nice unbiased take on the catchability of passes from Milton (blue font)

The first passes you mentioned for McCoy and McCastle as catchable were off. Both of those were terrible throws way behind wide open receivers that would have been big plays if the pass was accurate.
I didn't bother looking at the rest with that obvious agenda.

 

[Smokey123]

Third Quarter
11:00 Drop by Small, led nicely, lots of open field, 90% catchable
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7:00 Pass under duress, had to get it out before White turned, White almost makes incredible play, 10% catchable
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6:40 Pass to White, obvious PI not called
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:55 Pass (under duress) bounced to Keyton, 0% catchable
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Fourth Quarter
No incompletions

RECAP
Milton was 21/23 with 12 incompletions.
6 of the incompletions were more than 80% catchable and another was an obvious PI.
His three worst throws were:

• The zinger through the end zone to McCoy
• Underthrown fade route to McCoy in the endzone
• Underthrown fade route to White in the endzone

Good breakdown but the first Bru drop wasn’t his fault. It was a baddd throw well behind him. Stopping ur momentum and trying to turn your body around like that running full speed is a veryyyyy hard catch to make.

Same with castles

 

[37620VOL]

That was a nice unbiased take on the catchability of passes from Milton (blue font)

The first passes you mentioned for McCoy and McCastle as catchable were off. Both of those were terrible throws way behind wide open receivers that would have been big plays if the pass was accurate.
I didn't bother looking at the rest with that obvious agenda.

So you gloss right over my criticisms of Milton, but I'm the one with an agenda? hmmm

 

[strkr]

When you go back and watch the game Tenn left 21 to 28 pts off the board due to lack of catching passes, overthrown passes, and calls by the refs and lack there of on the PI in the endzone. 2nd Half it seemed our offense was in a better rhythm just could not cash drives with TD's. Just need to get better and play a lot better vs. Florida at the Swamp. I feel the defense played fairly well - got a few guys in at LB. The TD was scored due to Slaughter falling down. He hasn't been playing well this year for some reason.

 

[Bloodrunsorange27]

So you gloss right over my criticisms of Milton, but I'm the one with an agenda? hmmm

You described terrible throws way behind receivers as catchable. Move on

 

[37620VOL]

Good breakdown but the first Bru drop wasn’t his fault. It was a baddd throw well behind him. Stopping ur momentum and trying to turn your body around like that running full speed is a veryyyyy hard catch to make.

Same with castles

I see those catches made all the time, seems routine, but I respect your opinion

 

[FranklinVFL]

Great summary of these...I would lower the likelihood of catching some of those throws, especially the first one that was behind the receiver.

I also think a review of the caught balls would be in order as well---seems to me that most all the caught throws were behind the line of scrimmage.

Does anyone remember how many caught balls were 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage?

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That being said, I believe that Huepel needs to get Milton in a rhythm and some easy catches to start games....some screens and bubble screens to get everything started, get him some easy completions before going downfield. Seems Milton's confidence can get shaken quite easily and then he starts aiming instead of throwing....I would start with a few easy completions first....

 

[37620VOL]

You described terrible throws way behind receivers as catchable. Move on

Two hands, standing up, no fingertips, should be caught

Respectfully disagree

 

[Valishin]

Milton will never look like an elite QB out there but he doesn't need to. For the sake of his future he already has the physical tools he just needs to show that he can stay calm and take what the D gives him. For the sake of the team now, again stay calm but keep working on the timing when throwing with touch. I think that's what is going on with him he worked hard on getting that huge arm under control now he's got to get in sync with those throws when he is trying to not throw bullets. It would also help a great deal if he would take off 3 or 4 times a game just enough to force the defense to respect the possibility of that big body punching through for 8-12 yards every so often. If that LB covering the middle of field has to stay within 3 yards of the los to spy the QB that will make some of those holes on 10 yard crossing routes a bit bigger making it easier to lead the receiver.

 

[ProudVOLfan]

Nice breakdown. I hope he balls out Saturday and the rest of the year

 

[Ghost of Archvol]

part of the frustration and search for reasoning is because we've become accustomed to blowing out opponents like these. good timing (right before a big rival road game) imo. we'll be alright and milton will get better and better each week. sky is not falling.....

 

[sjt18]

Breakdown of Incompletions

First Quarter

11:02 Drop by McCoy 100% catchable

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Good job. The only one I would quibble with is this one. McCoy was running flat out. The pass was a laser behind him that he just had time to twist and touch. Milton needed to lead him better and take a little off.

 

[camp_steveo]

I don't care who you blame, but if you want to be a WR in the NFL...you don't drop the ball when it hits you in the hands. I don't care how hard it was thrown, or if it was a little off.

If you want to win....you catch it.

 

[37620VOL]

I didn’t see the game but it seems a little arbitrary to assign a percentage to “catchable” based on nothing but your opinion and then proceed as though that’s fact. Conversely, if your percentages are accurate, Heupel needs to threaten pulling some scholarships.

That's fair but everything in my post is opinion where did I state it as fact?

 

[Bloodrunsorange27]

Two hands, standing up, no fingertips, should be caught

Respectfully disagree

If they were standing still maybe, but they were running across the field to Milton's right and he threw they ball way behind them. To try to spin and turn and reach a ball behind you while you are running in the opposite direction is not catchable. You either never played football so you don't understand this or you have an agenda of trying to blame the WRs for Milton's terrible passing

 

[Volbrando]

thats a good analysis - thanks for putting that together

we need better oline play and receivers to catch the ball

also, we need to get our long ball passing game going too

 

[lifeisdeep]

I don't care who you blame, but if you want to be a WR in the NFL...you don't drop the ball when it hits you in the hands. I don't care how hard it was thrown, or if it was a little off.

If you want to win....you catch it.

That’s just not reality. NFL Wrs drop passes all the time and they drop more bad passes than good ones i.e. behind the receiver, high, etc.

 

[turbovol]

You described terrible throws way behind receivers as catchable. Move on

A pass can be behind a receiver and still be catchable, depending on a few factors. If a receiver is running hard, in full stride, and the ball is behind him, it's not catchable. If a receiver has turned in or slowed and is somewhat stationary, he could catch a ball slightly behind him. Good receivers do. I'm speaking generally and not about any specific UT plays.

 

[Pump Guy]

From what video was available during fall practice, it looked like Milton had developed "touch" to his passing game. There are a lot of people who know tons more about the quarterback position than I do, but I define "touch" as the ability to put a ball, where it needs to be and also gives the receiver the ability to adjust to put himself in the best position to catch the ball.

At this point of the season, which is VERY early, Milton is back to throwing rockets at a spot. That is very good for wide receiver screens, it is not good for slant passes or deep throws.