Brian Williams will be back with the team this week

#51
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hatvol96 said:
A comparison between a stiff like Williams and guys like Mutombo and Oak may be the single most nausea inducing post I've ever seen here.
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You don't want to see Williams jump 2 inches off the ground and wag his finger like Mutombo? I would die from uncontrollable laughter.
 
#52
#52
Maybe with all the supposed weight B-Will has lost he improved his vertical to 4 inches....
 
#53
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DenverVol said:
Umm, more like Doug Roth.
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Speaking of wagging fingers...


Anyway, I never compared BW to those guys. I said that's what he could be with the right mindset.

Some people seem to be only able to see negative. Just as well; few things make me happier than nauseating Hat.
 
#54
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wombat7477 said:
Speaking of wagging fingers...


Anyway, I never compared BW to those guys. I said that's what he could be with the right mindset.

Some people seem to be only able to see negative. Just as well; few things make me happier than nauseating Hat.
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His "mindset" is meaningless. Brian Williams has the same chance of becoming Charles Oakley that Lady Gaga does of becoming Jessica Alba.
 
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hatvol96 said:
His "mindset" is meaningless. Brian Williams has the same chance of becoming Charles Oakley that Lady Gaga does of becoming Jessica Alba.
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Mindset meaningless? Really? That may be the most asinine thing I've ever read.


Then tell me: what physical quality is he missing?
 
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#56
#56
Bottom line. If He does come back our chances at winning some games in march will be much higher
 
#57
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wombat7477 said:
Mindset meaningless? Really? That may be the most asinine thing I've ever read.


Then tell me: what physical quality is he missing?
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Outside of quickness, lower body strength, and lift off the floor?
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hatvol96 said:
His "mindset" is meaningless. Brian Williams has the same chance of becoming Charles Oakley that Lady Gaga does of becoming Jessica Alba.
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Why bring Lady Gaga into this argument? I mean, what did she do to you other than creating and endless reportorie of beautiful, meaningful music. She might not be the prettiest thing to look at but dang, where was i going with this?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Outside of quickness, lower body strength, and lift off the floor?
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Oooo. Right. When I think of quickness and leaping ability, I think of Eaton, Mutombo, and Oakley. My bad.

As far as lower body strength goes, that may be a valid point. I haven't been around him in the weightroom. But I would guess that someone like BW, who has carried extra weight most of his life, should have some pretty developed leg musculature.
 
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wombat7477 said:
Oooo. Right. When I think of quickness and leaping ability, I think of Eaton, Mutombo, and Oakley. My bad.

As far as lower body strength goes, that may be a valid point. I haven't been around him in the weightroom. But I would guess that someone like BW, who has carried extra weight most of his life, should have some pretty developed leg musculature.
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This is ridiculous. Mutombo is 7'2 and Eaton was 7'4. Last time I checked, Williams is 6'10 and not a good post defender. Mutombo was one of the greatest post defenders of all time. And comparing Charles Oakley to Brian Williams is beyond laughable.

Williams is as good as he is going to be. He is just not a very good basketball player regardless of his mindset.
 
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I did not compare Williams to anyone. What I did say is that he could fill that role on this UT team at this level of basketball.

I will not argue the point that Williams is a good defender. He's not right now. But any good defender will tell you that the biggest part is mental: attitude, intelligence, hustle. Being 6-10 and 270+ can't hurt.


Please explain to me how you know that he cannot get any better. You state it as a fact, so please prove it.

Anyone who thinks that mindset can't make you a better player just hasn't been paying attention. See Vernon Davis. See David Leaverton. See Johnathon Crompton (were you one of those that stated that Cromp was just a horrible QB, and could not get any better?). None of them got bigger, stronger, or faster. They just gained the right frame of mind.
 
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wombat7477 said:
I did not compare Williams to anyone. What I did say is that he could fill that role on this UT team at this level of basketball.

I will not argue the point that Williams is a good defender. He's not right now. But any good defender will tell you that the biggest part is mental: attitude, intelligence, hustle. Being 6-10 and 270+ can't hurt.


Please explain to me how you know that he cannot get any better. You state it as a fact, so please prove it.

Anyone who thinks that mindset can't make you a better player just hasn't been paying attention. See Vernon Davis. See David Leaverton. See Johnathon Crompton (were you one of those that stated that Cromp was just a horrible QB, and could not get any better?). None of them got bigger, stronger, or faster. They just gained the right frame of mind.
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Those guys had talent, something Brian Williams lacks.
 
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#64
I believe that to be an erroneous statement, because I have seen him play very well at times.

It's as simple as this: have you seen him play well? The honest answer has to be 'yes'. But he reverts back to lazy defense, mental mistakes, and lack of focus. So the next question is: if you eliminated those mistakes, and left only the rebounding and better effort on defense, would he be a valuable member of the team? The answer to this also must be 'yes'.

The final question: are his mistakes mental or physical? I haven't seen any mistakes that weren't due to laziness, lack of focus, or complete brain cramps. And I believe those can be corrected with the right mindset. He can rebound; I've seen it. He can play defense; I've seen that too. If he'd just focus and do it consistently, he could be that guy.
 
#65
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wombat7477 said:
I believe that to be an erroneous statement, because I have seen him play very well at times.

It's as simple as this: have you seen him play well? The honest answer has to be 'yes'. But he reverts back to lazy defense, mental mistakes, and lack of focus. So the next question is: if you eliminated those mistakes, and left only the rebounding and better effort on defense, would he be a valuable member of the team? The answer to this also must be 'yes'.

The final question: are his mistakes mental or physical? I haven't seen any mistakes that weren't due to laziness, lack of focus, or complete brain cramps. And I believe those can be corrected with the right mindset. He can rebound; I've seen it. He can play defense; I've seen that too. If he'd just focus and do it consistently, he could be that guy.
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People with zero talent occasionally have decent games. I have yet to see Williams score on the block more than a handful of times his entire career. The times that you say he had "good games" were where he got a few put backs.

Williams is what he is. He could help us with size, but he is by no stretch of the imagination a good basketball player.
 
#66
#66
He's warming up with the team right now, don't know if Bruce is giving him PT today, but he's definitely back and dressed
 
#67
#67
I hope Brian Williams doesn't take any of Kenny Hall's minutes. This team came together when the New Year's day four were suspended and hopefully the return of BW will not kill the chemistry of this team.
 
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