Brock Lesnar

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#26
And as fast as a lightweight as well. I honestly can't see anyone that will beat him for a long time, at least out of the current UFC roster, anyways.

UFC needs to sign Fedor. Let him fight in his sambo tournaments.

And considering his WAMMA belt isn't just an Affliction one, but spans across all promotions. I could see a WAMMA-UFC Heavyweight Title unification superfight.
It's never going to happen. You should already know this. Besides, Afflictions HW division is a lot more talented than the current UFC. He's still got to get by Josh Barnett, so don't go counting that one as a win just yet.
 
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#27
#27
It's never going to happen. You should already know this. Besides, Afflictions HW division is a lot more talented than the current UFC.

Yea, I know, but I keep dreaming of Fedor-Lesnar.

I've said the same thing about Affliction's heavyweights before. Affliction needs to hold more events as well. I guess the current 2-3 events per year is all they can afford at this point.
 
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Yea, I know, but I keep dreaming of Fedor-Lesnar.

I've said the same thing about Affliction's heavyweights before. Affliction needs to hold more events as well. I guess the current 2-3 events per year is all they can afford at this point.
Yes, and soon they will probably lose Fedor to DREAM, so it's not looking good for them.
 
#29
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From yahoo sports mma page:The greatest beneficiary of each Lesnar snarl, however, lives in Stary Oskol, Russia, a man named Fedor Emelianenko who is considered the No. 1 heavyweight (if not pound-for-pound fighter) in the world. If anyone has the knockout power to stop the 6-3, 265-pound Lesnar, it’s Emelianenko.

Fedor doesn’t fight in the UFC though. He’s with its rival promotion, Affliction. He’ll fight Aug. 1 in Anaheim, Calif., in what is the last match of his contract. Affliction is hoping to re-sign him until 2012, but the UFC will come hard after him. More now then ever. And that means money, big money.

“Eventually Fedor is going to be here,” White said. “I want Fedor. We’ll end up getting that deal done and then we’ll do Brock vs. Fedor and we’ll do a huge fight.”

Time will tell, but the pressure to sign the elusive Russian has been ratcheted up. A villain was born and there isn’t an obvious superhero in sight. The UFC brought Brock Lesnar over from the WWE for just this kind of a sensation. And the big man has delivered – the good, the bad and the embarrassing.





Also 4 million for one fight is a bigger payday than Fedor will ever see in any organization (that's what Lesnar stands to make for UFC 100)actually I could see bigger numbers for one fight against Brock.
 
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From yahoo sports mma page:The greatest beneficiary of each Lesnar snarl, however, lives in Stary Oskol, Russia, a man named Fedor Emelianenko who is considered the No. 1 heavyweight (if not pound-for-pound fighter) in the world. If anyone has the knockout power to stop the 6-3, 265-pound Lesnar, it’s Emelianenko.

Fedor doesn’t fight in the UFC though. He’s with its rival promotion, Affliction. He’ll fight Aug. 1 in Anaheim, Calif., in what is the last match of his contract. Affliction is hoping to re-sign him until 2012, but the UFC will come hard after him. More now then ever. And that means money, big money.

“Eventually Fedor is going to be here,” White said. “I want Fedor. We’ll end up getting that deal done and then we’ll do Brock vs. Fedor and we’ll do a huge fight.”

Time will tell, but the pressure to sign the elusive Russian has been ratcheted up. A villain was born and there isn’t an obvious superhero in sight. The UFC brought Brock Lesnar over from the WWE for just this kind of a sensation. And the big man has delivered – the good, the bad and the embarrassing.





Also 4 million for one fight is a bigger payday than Fedor will ever see in any organization (that's what Lesnar stands to make for UFC 100)actually I could see bigger numbers for one fight against Brock.
UFC has been pursuing Fedor as long as I can remember. They won't let their fighters compete in any organization not affiliated with their organization. They run that business like a mob. Don't you remember when they banned all the Affliction logos when many of the UFC fighter were promoted by the Affliction clothing line. St. Piere, Coture, Liddel..were among the top names. Where it hurt the worst was the fighters who were not known as well and needed that sponsorship.

Sambo is where Fedors heart is, MMA is just a hobby. I bet you $10 he doesn't sign with the UFC. Dan White can say F*** as many times as he wants, and offer 5 million, but he won't get him.
 
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The next thing they are talking about is a Super Heavyweight division. There was to much of a weight difference between Couture and Lesner. 220 vs 290+. Same last night, Mir was 245 and Lesner is 290+. That is just to much of a weight difference.

Royce Gracie disagrees with you...
 
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#34
And Matt Hughes agrees with me.

LOL, good one. You pick out one of his fights where he was out of the sport for a some years and pass it off as evidence that supports your garbage claim. Go back to the early years and see how many people he submitted out that were 20+ heavier than him...
 
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LOL, good one. You pick out one of his fights where he was out of the sport for a some years and pass it off as evidence that supports your garbage claim. Go back to the early years and see how many people he submitted out that were 20+ heavier than him...

The quality in the fighters overall is much better today. Many of those guys in the early era were true specialists, punchers, submission wrestlers etc. Today it is much different, while you still have specialists they are crossed trained in many different techniques, the quality of the fighter is much better overall today.
 
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#37
Brock Lesnar= Beast


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#38
The quality in the fighters overall is much better today. Many of those guys in the early era were true specialists, punchers, submission wrestlers etc. Today it is much different, while you still have specialists they are crossed trained in many different techniques, the quality of the fighter is much better overall today.

While I agree with everything you said what does it have to with dudes proclimation that the weight difference is too much and a super heavyweight division is imminent?
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#39
#39
Once someone finds a way to beat Lesner everyone is going to beat him.

Your logic is flawed. Lesnar is 4-1. After losing to Mir, Randy Couture couldn't bean Lesnar.

As long as Lesnar stays in his current shape and fights with caution until he can exploit an opening... he'll be among the top 3 fighters in the UFC.
 
#40
#40
Your logic is flawed. Lesnar is 4-1. After losing to Mir, Randy Couture couldn't bean Lesnar.

As long as Lesnar stays in his current shape and fights with caution until he can exploit an opening... he'll be among the top 3 fighters in the UFC.

I was expecting a more "no cr@p sherlock" statement than a "your logic is flawed" argument.

if UFC fighters are getting better, one of them is going to see a weakness in Lesnar. If not, then they aren't the great fighters you guys think they are.

no singular bad@ass exists on this planet. Everyone has his better.
 
#42
#42
I was expecting a more "no cr@p sherlock" statement than a "your logic is flawed" argument.

if UFC fighters are getting better, one of them is going to see a weakness in Lesnar. If not, then they aren't the great fighters you guys think they are.

no singular bad@ass exists on this planet. Everyone has his better.

Everyone will lose fights. I just think that at the current point Lesnar can make up for his lack (comparatively speaking) of technical fighting ability with sheer applied mass and athletic ability. He'll probably have 3-4 good years with a slide that's 1 part older age and 1 part people getting his number.

You forgot about Eric Berry. Served.
 
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#43
Everyone will lose fights. I just think that at the current point Lesnar can make up for his lack (comparatively speaking) of technical fighting ability with sheer applied mass and athletic ability. He'll probably have 3-4 good years with a slide that's 1 part older age and 1 part people getting his number.

I just think some one in the wings may come out and beat him or show a serious weakness. For what I can tell this sport changes its fighting style about once every two years? Tyson was a bad@ss too, until someone found out about his practice partners.

You forgot about Eric Berry. Served.

I stand corrected.
 
#44
#44
I just think some one in the wings may come out and beat him or show a serious weakness. For what I can tell this sport changes its fighting style about once every two years? Tyson was a bad@ss too, until someone found out about his practice partners.

I don't think anyone out there can beat him in a standup match. Also, if Lesnar takes someone down, he'll just walrus pound the crap out of them.


It'll take a guy that can submit him like Mir did in the first match. But, Lesnar is far more cautious against that than he was. I think, if anything, Lesnar will beat himself by losing his focus and being arrogant.
 
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#48
As much publicity as he's created, I'd say Lenar provided exactly what was wanted. Im listening to Dana White on the Rome show right now, and he is spewing all the standard public relations crapola.
 
#50
#50
Once someone finds a way to beat Lesner everyone is going to beat him.

I would like to see Lesner fight Noriega (sp?). He's great at submitting people on the ground, and Lesnar loves to ground and pound. Would be an interesting fight. Though I think Lesnar would knock him out.
 

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