Brock Lesnar

#51
#51
If Dana doesn't get Fedor, he needs one of the Klitschko to start MMA training
at 6' 5" and 6' 6", either one of them could bulk up to fight Brock
 
#52
#52
Lesnar beat an aging Randy Cotour - good for him. Fedor will destroy him, though.
 
#53
#53
VOLinthaATL said:
LOL, good one. You pick out one of his fights where he was out of the sport for a some years and pass it off as evidence that supports your garbage claim. Go back to the early years and see how many people he submitted out that were 20+ heavier than him...
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Im sorry but I have forgotten more about Martial Arts and especially crossed trained MMA than you will ever know. During the era you claim, yes, there was no weight classes. However, people now are so well crossed trained that even BJJ black belts have a hard time submitting people who know submission defense. Look at the Title Holders in just the UFC. Only one (BJ Penn) is a BJJ guy first. The rest learned out of cross training and came from a karate or wrestling background.

If you still want to go back in the day, I can show you COUNTLESS mistakes by the bigger guys against Gracie that fighters just dont make. Example from just UFC 100. Lesnar didnt posture up so there was no way Mir could attempt a submission. Watch any of the old UFC fights and people leave out arms, necks, drop arms in the guard, got easily swept, and walked into chokes.

BJ Penn (who is one of the best BJJ guys in the UFC) lost 2 of his 3 UFC fights to Welterweights which is on average 15 to 20lbs heavier.
 
#54
#54
Dawson said:
Im sorry but I have forgotten more about Martial Arts and especially crossed trained MMA than you will ever know. During the era you claim, yes, there was no weight classes. However, people now are so well crossed trained that even BJJ black belts have a hard time submitting people who know submission defense. Look at the Title Holders in just the UFC. Only one (BJ Penn) is a BJJ guy first. The rest learned out of cross training and came from a karate or wrestling background.

If you still want to go back in the day, I can show you COUNTLESS mistakes by the bigger guys against Gracie that fighters just dont make. Example from just UFC 100. Lesnar didnt posture up so there was no way Mir could attempt a submission. Watch any of the old UFC fights and people leave out arms, necks, drop arms in the guard, got easily swept, and walked into chokes.

BJ Penn (who is one of the best BJJ guys in the UFC) lost 2 of his 3 UFC fights to Welterweights which is on average 15 to 20lbs heavier.
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Congrats. Good thing we're not debating total MMA knowledge Mr. MMA Guru/Model/Actor/Owner of 3 BMW's/Headshot photo master...

Kinda like Brock did the first time?
 
#55
#55
VOLinthaATL said:
Congrats. Good thing we're not debating total MMA knowledge Mr. MMA Guru/Model/Actor/Owner of 3 BMW's/Headshot photo master...

Kinda like Brock did the first time?
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Audi's. Are you jealous or something. You are the one who tried to start crap.
 
#58
#58
Wow, the fact that I read this "message board" fight on a UFC thread is freakin hilarious.

P.S. My dad can beat up your dad.
 
#59
#59
BigHenry07 said:
Wow, the fact that I read this "message board" fight on a UFC thread is freakin hilarious.

P.S. My dad can beat up your dad.
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it's even funnier when you get all the jokes thrown around.

p.s.-it has nothing to do with whose dad can beat up whose dad.
 
#60
#60
doozer said:
it's even funnier when you get all the jokes thrown around.

p.s.-it has nothing to do with whose dad can beat up whose dad.
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Oh, I got the jokes. I didn't mean for it to sound like I didn't get the jokes. Sorry about that. I was just making a comment about the humor I find in watching people start to fight in the manner that I was reading on a thread about MMA fighting. Also, my "dad" comment was a mockery of the fight that I was describing a few sentances ago.

Anywho, sorry to interrupt. We now take you back to your original programming.
 
#64
#64
You know all I keep hearing is oh he's to big that's why he won well I got news for ya if you're a fighter and you fight heavyweight top weight is 265 guess what Brock made weight and if you don't wanna fight against a guy who's maybe 290 on fight nite, find some other occupation because there is big ole corn fed man child in the UFC now that will turn your head into a pumpkin if you piss him off :yes:...right Frank?
 
#65
#65
I haven't looked any of this up to confirm, but was told that Lesnar was either traveling to Iowa to train with Pat or Pat was traveling to Minn to train Brock.
Either way. That is A PLUS training which is scary.
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#66
#66
He visited and trained at Miletich's camp when he was deciding to enter MMA

From Yahoo:After one week of training with Lesnar in late 2006, MMA coach Pat Miletich, a former UFC champion, came away impressed. "In a year, there won't be a man alive who can beat him," Miletich said. Lesnar has spent the last 18 months training at Greg Nelson's Minnesota Martial Arts Academy in Minneapolis, concentrating on striking and jiu- jitsu. He often works out with the national champion University of Minnesota wrestling team -- in particular, Cole Konrad, the 2008 Olympic hopeful who was NCAA heavyweight champion the past two years. Suffice to say, Lesnar gets a regular reality check of where his wrestling stands.

Guess what Pat was right,he's got alot of you wondering who in the hell can beat him....
 
#67
#67
I was told this would be continued training but either way, very scary. Good find rIntlss.
 
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