Brown for Prez? What?

[lumberjack4]

I do not believe that the GOP will make the mistake of letting the media, be it liberal or conservative media, dictate the next candidate.

The GOP are slow learners, I wouldn't be so sure.

 

[GAVol]

Weak effort at the save.

How is it a save? You asked for a left wing example of a cable news network employing potential Presidential candidates and I gave you a guy that has already run for President and could easily do it again.

Dean has basically assumed the "Gingrich role" in the Democratic Party; basically acting as the liberal conscience of the party.

 

[rjd970]

All I know is if the GOP dropped the social issue stuff and stick to what they are (supposed to be) good at....fiscal responsibility and military....they would be much more attractive to a wider range of voters. Like it or not, the religious talk and social agenda turned off enough people to matter in the last election.

They may or may not have won anyway because economic circumstances is what really dictated the last election, but at the very least it would have been closer.

 

[VolInMn]

All I know is if the GOP dropped the social issue stuff and stick to what they are (supposed to be) good at....fiscal responsibility and military....they would be much more attractive to a wider range of voters. Like it or not, the religious talk and social agenda turned off enough people to matter in the last election.

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[BigPapaVol]

All I know is if the GOP dropped the social issue stuff and stick to what they are (supposed to be) good at....fiscal responsibility and military....they would be much more attractive to a wider range of voters. Like it or not, the religious talk and social agenda turned off enough people to matter in the last election.

They may or may not have won anyway because economic circumstances is what really dictated the last election, but at the very least it would have been closer.

I agree with the sentiment, but not that the fringe garbage that the social issues are, really swayed the election. Bush essentially lost for the R party any home court advantages in those core areas that it typically enjoys, especially fiscal responsibility.

 

[rjd970]

I agree with the sentiment, but not that the fringe garbage that the social issues are, really swayed the election. Bush essentially lost for the R party any home court advantages in those core areas that it typically enjoys, especially fiscal responsibility.

I agree economic circumstances were by far the biggest driver in the last election. I'm just saying without the religious right Bush would have never won the first election and probably not the second. And that is saying something considering who he was running against. It's also a significant reason McCain lost by as much as he did.

The GOP is in a sad state when they have to rely on the lowest common denominator to win elections. Especially when they are right on so many other issues that actually matter. I agree Bush screwed it up from a fiscal standpoint, and the Palin nomination was nothing more than an attempt to salvage a floundering campaign by trying what worked in the past.

It is far past time for the GOP to get back to what really works for them and leave the other nonsense on the wayside.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I agree economic circumstances were by far the biggest driver in the last election. I'm just saying without the religious right Bush would have never won the first election and probably not the second. And that is saying something considering who he was running against. It's also a significant reason McCain lost by as much as he did.

The GOP is in a sad state when they have to rely on the lowest common denominator to win elections. Especially when they are right on so many other issues that actually matter. I agree Bush screwed it up from a fiscal standpoint, and the Palin nomination was nothing more than an attempt to salvage a floundering campaign by trying what worked in the past.

It is far past time for the GOP to get back to what really works for them and leave the other nonsense on the wayside.

I don't think they can turn their back on the preachers. That's why it's high time for a new party to claim the Washington outsider, fiscal conservative and pro military leadership.

 

[rjd970]

I don't think they can turn their back on the preachers. That's why it's high time for a new party to claim the Washington outsider, fiscal conservative and pro military leadership.

That is why I was a big Ron Paul supporter. If he had any reasonable chance of winning I probably wouldn't have though because of his suspect views on military use (aside from the rest of his wackiness).

It was the principle though, ya know?

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Hmmmm.... Ron Paul in 2012.......

I would love this!

 

[CSpindizzy]

It is because the GOP is dominated by the former "Southern Democrats" - fiscal moderates and social conservatives that fled the liberal moving of the Democratic Party. The good ol' boys fled the party and took over the GOP. W, DeLay, Lott, Helms, Thurmond, Gingrich, Barbour, etc. They believe in big government, guns, and morality.