Bru McCoy comments about offense

[OrangeTsar]

Not just Milton. If you don’t have confidence in the OL for proper run and pass blocking, it will greatly limit the available play book

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

That's pretty much saying they know Milton is hot garbage without coming right out and saying it..

No
It is saying they knew without an offensive line capable of playing at SEC level they knew the task ahead was going to be difficult.

I wish some of you relaized there is more to a team than the skill positions.

 

[EZE]

We can’t win throwing screens everytime. The name of the game is winning. This offense has plenty of weapons. We need a spark, if Milton isn’t capable of trying that at least give someone a chance. Nico should get some opportunities next week if he is healthy, if Milton wants to stay the leader he needs to play better and that starts this week. GBO

I agree, but I think it is obvious that Nico isn’t ready yet. But, if the next four games go poorly, we might see him versus UConn.

Staff is in a no-win situation right now IMO. I’d rather they protect the future. Throwing a QB in too early could be catastrophic.

 

[BlackCreekVol]

We did this same dance with JG. After the game his stats almost always looked decent but never told the whole story.

For Heupel’s offense to work the QB has to run when the defense leaves the middle of the field open. One reason we had so many open receivers last year was due to safeties keeping their eyes in the backfield b/c Hooker was always a threat to run for 10+ on any pass play. That slight hesitation was all the receivers needed to get a step on them, especially in zone coverage. Milton had multiple opportunities to take off on Saturday and just didn’t. Until that changes, this offense is going to not look good.

I've notice this the past 2 games.....Milton never takes the open running lane on passing downs

 

[theFallGuy]

According to Vols redshirt senior wide receiver Bru McCoy, it's because Tennessee wasn't confident that they could replicate the success of the first drive of the game.

"I can't really pinpoint it exactly," said McCoy when asked about the struggles after the first drive. "We came out fast, started fast and then sort of lost the momentum a little bit. Me personally, I think we started thinking back that we couldn't do it again and we just had. It's a mindset thing. It's a confidence thing. It's trusting one another in what we are capable of doing. It's really just that."

Here's the full quote.

When there's ambiguity, we tend to interpret through our own preconceptions. Those who are sour on Milton interpret to mean lack of confidence in Milton. Those who question playcalling and OC have that interpretation. Those who think UF is in our player's heads take it that way.
Reality is none of those things are hinted or even implied.

no clearly he is calling Milton "hot garbage" and the whole team hates him - signed random fan on anonymous message board

 

[Russdaddy2027]

If this is true and they think what some do about Joe, then I don’t see how Heup has a choice but to put Nico in. Unless they would rather have Gaston Moore and we just have no clue what is happening in the locker room.

Joe is probably the BEST back up QB in all of football, however it is time to move on...either one of these guys needs a shot

 

[The Tall Gguy]

Milton threw for almost 300 yds. As a team we rushed for just over 100.

Etienne alone rushed for 172. We gave up 3rd and longs like they were 3rd and inches.

Not anywhere close to a Guarantano situation.

"In Tennessee football’s 24-20 win over the Missouri Tigers, Jarrett Guarantano had the most impressive 400-yard passing game in Volunteers history."

 

[xpsyclonex2002]

Team Chemistry is non-existent. There's no leadership on Offense or defense. We're chaotic. talent everywhere and not a single "field general" to be found. The chronic penalties and coming out of time outs (taken way too early in the game) to have busted plays is a sign the players aren't answering to anyone. As mentioned above, the coaches don't trust the team to run teh playbook and the players can sense it. They know where the weak link lies and won't be confident until the issue is dealt with.

 

[Pride85]

I know he wasn't great, but he completed two bombs for touchdowns and overthrew Ramel Keyton on one and barely missed Squirrel in the endzone on another. There was also another deep post that was incomplete that had a blatant PI on a pass to Thornton that was missed. They opened up the offense quite a bit Saturday. Even the interception was going to be another deep post, but it is hard to throw with a 435 pound body in your chest.

 

[BradentonVol]

The conservative play calling is a combination of WR's not being able to get separation against man-to-man coverage and Milton's inconsistency down the field. Here's the thing - if we can't run the ball with 4-5 in the box, this offense can't operate, and SEC DC's damn well know it. Milton isn't Hooker, he doesn't offer the threat of pulling it back and keeping it for chunk plays, so that limits the run game.

Knowing all this, it is on Josh & Co. to alter the offense to fit what these guys can do instead of jamming a square peg into a round hole. Those calling for Nico are insane - this kid is the future, and throwing him into the fire when he isn't physically or mentally ready would be coaching malpractice. If Heupel bends to the pressure of some foolish, shortsighted critics, he deserves to be summarily fired.

This idea that a couple of bad games means Heupel is another Pruitt or Jones is idiotic on its face. What he accomplished last season followed by the recruiting where legit studs are now looking at UT as a place to play has earned him the benefit of the doubt. But he needs to show some flexibility in his plan to account for limitations in his offensive skill players, or it could be a long season.

Very true and well stated but let me put this “What if” out there:
What if we would have gotten a large lead, against AP, and brought in Nico and he played lights out, what would you have done Saturday in the Swamp?

 

[VolMarine1371]

I just read Bru McCoy’s comments when asked about the offensive woes. He stated the players, including himself, didn’t think they would have success, even after the opening drive.

How did it get to this point and how can they regain the swagger? He said it begins with “trusting one another.” But how do you not have confidence after you scored a TD on first possession?

Hendo was an incredible QB and leader, so I understand things changed. But what has caused the offensive players to doubt themselves? You can’t be tentative and expect to win a game in any sport.

Thoughts?

Edit- I just posted article.

It all starts with the Quarterback. They know the QB is not accurate and is inconsistent. But for some reason the coaches don’t wanna see it.

 

[JoeMiltonsAgent]

Personally think it's a snowball effect creating most of the problems.

O line isn't protecting as well and making dumb mistakes which leads to Milton being a little skittish and hesitant which leads to throws being made a half second late leading to drops by the WRs.

And Milton is not dynamic running the ball to put it kindly to cover up some of those mistakes by the O lime.

Then the coaches see all this and start calling a much tighter game.

Had hoped they would have ironed some stuff out but then the Austin Peay game was tighter than they wanted and playing FL early always magnifies the shortcomings and unanswered questions.

 

[VolMarine1371]

I know he wasn't great, but he completed two bombs for touchdowns and overthrew Ramel Keyton on one and barely missed Squirrel in the endzone on another. There was also another deep post that was incomplete that had a blatant PI on a pass to Thornton that was missed. They opened up the offense quite a bit Saturday. Even the interception was going to be another deep post, but it is hard to throw with a 435 pound body in your chest.

It was more than just the overthrows. It was game awareness, game management along with many other things. Coming out of half time we take 2 timeouts to start the 3rd quarter. What did they go over to where we had to use 2 timeouts on the 1st possession of the 3rd quarter. Milton then gets 4th and 6th and we checking down to running back 2 yards beyond the LOS in middle of field. Why not take a chance and throw to 9 yards? At least you have a chance for 1st down. Milton couldn’t get the plays in fast enough and get everyone set. Milton can not run this offense at the speed it needs to be run at and be consistent. We either need to slow the offense down and huddle up so we can run it effectively, or change QB’s so we are able to run it like Heupel wants. When we slowed it down in 2nd half and decided to run the ball and be more physical we started having success.

 

[Score50]

Joe is not a leader. I hate to say it, but he can’t think his way out of a paper bag. He can’t read defenses. He has been in college 6 years for a reason. As long as he is our quarterback, we will more than struggle this year. I have seen enough and heard enough of his brainless interviews. Bring in Nico or the third string guy. We need a spark and a change. If not, our recruits will start looking elsewhere. It’s just a matter of time.

 

[Cartervol]

No
It is saying they knew without an offensive line capable of playing at SEC level they knew the task ahead was going to be difficult.

I wish some of you relaized there is more to a team than the skill positions.

I've likely watched football longer than you've been alive so that comment is laughable. I will say you're right about more moving parts to a offense than just the QB. Receivers aren't as good, Oline not that great. The deal is though Milton helped with that **** show the other night, and he's also the one that needs to lead by example and his example hasn't been good. They're problems everywhere. I think the scheme doesn't fit Joe's ability. They should probably slow the game down for him because he can't do the fast stuff. With these clock rules now you can't waste possessions and the vols wasted too many the other night. Defense was charmin soft in the first half also and didn't help a bit. Tennessee got outcoached and outplayed.

 

[Dergibvol]

I know he wasn't great, but he completed two bombs for touchdowns and overthrew Ramel Keyton on one and barely missed Squirrel in the endzone on another. There was also another deep post that was incomplete that had a blatant PI on a pass to Thornton that was missed. They opened up the offense quite a bit Saturday. Even the interception was going to be another deep post, but it is hard to throw with a 435 pound body in your chest.

That was a TD if the line blocked

 

[wmcovol]

I just read Bru McCoy’s comments when asked about the offensive woes. He stated the players, including himself, didn’t think they would have success, even after the opening drive.

How did it get to this point and how can they regain the swagger? He said it begins with “trusting one another.” But how do you not have confidence after you scored a TD on first possession?

Hendo was an incredible QB and leader, so I understand things changed. But what has caused the offensive players to doubt themselves? You can’t be tentative and expect to win a game in any sport.

Thoughts?

Edit- I just posted article.

I took Bru’s comments as the coaches didn’t think they could duplicate it. Maybe Florida made adjustments after how easy Vols scored.

I do think Tennessee needs to utilize the WR more (provided they catch the ball) than they have.

 

[Dergibvol]

I've likely watched football longer than you've been alive so that comment is laughable. I will say you're right about more moving parts to a offense than just the QB. Receivers aren't as good, Oline not that great. The deal is though Milton helped with that **** show the other night, and he's also the one that needs to lead by example and his example hasn't been good. They're problems everywhere. I think the scheme doesn't fit Joe's ability. They should probably slow the game down for him because he can't do the fast stuff. With these clock rules now you can't waste possessions and the vols wasted too many the other night. Defense was charmin soft in the first half also and didn't help a bit. Tennessee got outcoached and outplayed.

The offensive line had three straight drives where a false start on first down killed them after the TD by TN. 1st and 15 is much different than 1st and 10 with heupel offense.

 

[Cobb-Webb 1989]

How did it get to this point and how can they regain the swagger?

From my side of things, we hit this point when Spurrier started owning Fulmer since about 1993. Fulmer turned Spurrier into his own kryptonite.

Seems like we did not play each other from the late 70s until about 1990, can’t even remember a time, when we beat those guys two years in a row.

Hooker could be the best dual threat QB for the Vols since Tony Robinson.

 

[landscapingvol]

This is on the coaches... Period!

Yeah no it isn’t. He is pretty much saying they have no confidence in Milton

 

[Cartervol]

The offensive line had three straight drives where a false start on first down killed them after the TD by TN. 1st and 15 is much different than 1st and 10 with heupel offense.

Yeah you're not winning most places committing ten penalties. Problem is they had too many possessions that they could of scored and didn't. They did that crap last year too. Plenty of false starts at UGA....

 

[Cobb-Webb 1989]

Yeah no it isn’t. He is pretty much saying they have no confidence in Milton

It’s time for Hype to man up regarding Milton and move on with Nico, or then it will be on coach Hype for not moving forward.

 

[vegasvolfan]

I just read Bru McCoy’s comments when asked about the offensive woes. He stated the players, including himself, didn’t think they would have success, even after the opening drive.

How did it get to this point and how can they regain the swagger? He said it begins with “trusting one another.” But how do you not have confidence after you scored a TD on first possession?

Hendo was an incredible QB and leader, so I understand things changed. But what has caused the offensive players to doubt themselves? You can’t be tentative and expect to win a game in any sport.

Thoughts?

Edit- I just posted article.

This doesn’t make much sense to me. Thinking you can is taught when you are young. Even if you don’t, you try every play until you do. I didn’t think Bru played that way, so I think this must be indicative of his belief in others.

People are pointing to Joe Milton, but he was smothered in that game. He threw some beautiful passes however. They were never on the field long enough to get into a rhythm. Has everything to do with the OL, with the penalties, horrible calls or no calls and not playing well in the pass protection department.

 

[VolMarine1371]

It’s time for Hype to man up regarding Milton and move on with Nico, or then it will be on coach Hype for not moving forward.

I’m order to get changes, you have to make changes to see the results. You’re not gonna get different results when you don’t make changes to get those results. Keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is asinine.

 

[Remy]

If they don’t have confidence in the quarterback that is a problem. The quarterback has to be the leader and lead.

How many coaches at UT fall in love with a QB and keep putting him on the field to watch him fail? Fulmer had a blind spot for a former QB which became an ineffective OC and had to go. Jones kept trotting out JG as did Pruitt and both watched things go down in flames doing so. Harken back to last season, Heupel benched Hooker for Milton which I said was a blind spot then. However the Orange Bowl got me on board the Milton train. i'm not laying this UF loss entirely on Milton, we had a team effort loss and the team staff and all need to step up and get things right or get the problems down I-40 somewhere.