Bruce was on 790 AM in Atlanta this morn., and...

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So you all think he takes the easy road out and resigns?...I do not see Bruce doing this...Yes these problem HE has caused has put a lot of age on him so to speak but I just do not see him giving up and taking that road out. (Wooo Hooo 1000 posts!)
 
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G0V0LS33 said:
So you all think he takes the easy road out and resigns?...I do not see Bruce doing this...Yes these problem HE has caused has put a lot of age on him so to speak but I just do not see him giving up and taking that road out. (Wooo Hooo 1000 posts!)
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I havent thought he would resign until recently. He just seems like a man defeated. I would respect his decision if he did. This year has obviously worn on him, and the next year will be worse, esp after the NCAA speaks. It won't go away soon. Just not sure how it could work out well for UT or Pearl if he didn't step aside or get dismissed. JMO
 
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I think a better question to ask him would be "So, coach, what happened to the pressing defense? 40 minutes of hell doesn't mean the same as it did in years past".
 
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tennfan1964 said:
I think a better question to ask him would be "So, coach, what happened to the pressing defense? 40 minutes of hell doesn't mean the same as it did in years past".
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And he'd explain the obvious answer to that question as he's done about 1000 times before.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
That is ok, we will forgive you
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Won't ever find a time where I was banging the moral drum like Pearl. Everything he's going through he deserves and then some. It's just a shame this all has to play out while he's associated with the University I love.
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I noticed that. He doesn't sound very focused in interviews. Doesn't have much of a sense of humor anymore and just sounds lost. I probably wouldn't have much of a sense of humor either but I do see your point. Notice how Pearl looks now compared to a couple of seasons ago? I know he's gotten older but he reminds you of how the presidents look when they first go into office and then out. They age sooo quickly in those four years and the guy is looking real old. He's put a ton of weight too so I wonder if he's hittin' the bottle a little harder these days
 
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IDK that resigning would be an easy way out for Bruce. Currently, his best chance at employment in the NCAAs is his current job. He would probably have a hard time getting hired somewhere else right now.
 
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ukvols said:
IDK that resigning would be an easy way out for Bruce. Currently, his best chance at employment in the NCAAs is his current job. He would probably have a hard time getting hired somewhere else right now.
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If the AD does what he needs to do, he won't have any other option.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Agreed. It sure seems to me that since that's the case, it makes it more likely that Pearl will be fired.
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Agree. Keeping Pearl won't erase all the bad Hamilton has done. He is in a no win situation but his chances of losing less are without being tied to a coach who will be under sanctions while employed by UT for at least the next year
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LawVol13 said:
Agreed. It sure seems to me that since that's the case, it makes it more likely that Pearl will be fired.
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See, I think the opposite. If Pearl goes, Hamilton has nothing left to hang his hat on. The boosters run the UTAD, thanks to various structural weaknesses of the UT system, and if Pearl has to be replaced then all it takes is Jim Haslam deciding that he doesn't want Hamilton to be the one to make the next major hire. I think Hamilton's precarious situation makes it likely that he'll do absolutely everything he can to avoid a situation in which another big coaching hire has to be made for awhile.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
See, I think the opposite. If Pearl goes, Hamilton has nothing left to hang his hat on. The boosters run the UTAD, thanks to various structural weaknesses of the UT system, and if Pearl has to be replaced then all it takes is Jim Haslam deciding that he doesn't want Hamilton to be the one to make the next major hire. I think Hamilton's precarious situation makes it likely that he'll do absolutely everything he can to avoid a situation in which another big coaching hire has to be made for awhile.
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I just think that keeping a coach at the expense of the program and at the expense of the reputation of the athletic department makes it more likely that he'll can Pearl or he'll be canned.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
See, I think the opposite. If Pearl goes, Hamilton has nothing left to hang his hat on. The boosters run the UTAD, thanks to various structural weaknesses of the UT system, and if Pearl has to be replaced then all it takes is Jim Haslam deciding that he doesn't want Hamilton to be the one to make the next major hire. I think Hamilton's precarious situation makes it likely that he'll do absolutely everything he can to avoid a situation in which another big coaching hire has to be made for awhile.
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According to this dynamic Vercy, it would be the boosters that would run Bruce out the gate... rendering Hammy impotent in protecting his own fate. I happen to think he is anyway(MH).

Here's a hypothetical though.
If NCAA likes Tressel and does not want to drop hammer on him later this summer, how can they now lower the boom on Bruce? Has OSU produced a cotton ball landing for UT's coach?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
See, I think the opposite. If Pearl goes, Hamilton has nothing left to hang his hat on. The boosters run the UTAD, thanks to various structural weaknesses of the UT system, and if Pearl has to be replaced then all it takes is Jim Haslam deciding that he doesn't want Hamilton to be the one to make the next major hire. I think Hamilton's precarious situation makes it likely that he'll do absolutely everything he can to avoid a situation in which another big coaching hire has to be made for awhile.
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I really don't see how defending a coach that has put your program in serious violations with the NCAA and has unethical conduct charges is going to enhance your ability to keep your job. Sort of like being labeled by your associations as being the same type character.
 
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LawVol13 said:
I just think that keeping a coach at the expense of the program and at the expense of the reputation of the athletic department makes it more likely that he'll can Pearl or he'll be canned.
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I'm just putting myself in the shoes of the decision makers. DiPietro has been president for about 15 minutes; Jimmy Cheek has only had the UTAD reporting to the Knoxville campus administration for about 15 minutes too. It would take an unprecedented show of onions for either one of them to man up and get involved. The Board of Trustees has never been anything other than an echo chamber. So you have Hamilton operating essentially autonomously, with his primary goal to do whatever it takes to keep Haslam and the boosters happy. If they decide Pearl's got to go, then obviously Hamilton will do what they want. But nothing he's said so far indicates to me that he's willing to shake up the status quo any more than necessary, presumably because the current status quo includes him having a job.
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
According to this dynamic Vercy, it would be the boosters that would run Bruce out the gate... rendering Hammy impotent in protecting his own fate. I happen to think he is anyway(MH).

Here's a hypothetical though.
If NCAA likes Tressel and does not want to drop hammer on him later this summer, how can they now lower the boom on Bruce? Has OSU produced a cotton ball landing for UT's coach?
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I've wondered about that myself. If the NCAA cared about consistency, you'd think that they'd say to themselves, "Damn, if we give Pearl the usual two-year ban that we usually give coaches guilty of unethical conduct, then how are we going to avoid lowering the boom on OSU?" However, A) the NCAA has not exactly in the past worried overmuch about consistency, and B) the glacial pace of their investigations means that the OSU stuff will still be in the early stages when the time comes in June to rule on Pearl. So I doubt there'll be that much effect.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I've wondered about that myself. If the NCAA cared about consistency, you'd think that they'd say to themselves, "Damn, if we give Pearl the usual two-year ban that we usually give coaches guilty of unethical conduct, then how are we going to avoid lowering the boom on OSU?" However, A) the NCAA has not exactly in the past worried overmuch about consistency, and B) the glacial pace of their investigations means that the OSU stuff will still be in the early stages when the time comes in June to rule on Pearl. So I doubt there'll be that much effect.
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I just heard on radio this afternoon that ncaa expects to rule on Tressel before football season begins...
 
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If that's accurate, then Tressel is going to walk. There's no way they're going to dump a significant penalty on OSU football right before the season starts. Maybe he'll get another couple of games. Akron and Toledo clearly isn't going to get there.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I've wondered about that myself. If the NCAA cared about consistency, you'd think that they'd say to themselves, "Damn, if we give Pearl the usual two-year ban that we usually give coaches guilty of unethical conduct, then how are we going to avoid lowering the boom on OSU?" However, A) the NCAA has not exactly in the past worried overmuch about consistency, and B) the glacial pace of their investigations means that the OSU stuff will still be in the early stages when the time comes in June to rule on Pearl. So I doubt there'll be that much effect.
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I want to agree with you, but if the AA really wants to take a stand about enforcing compliance with the rules, they could definitely show they mean business with the sweater vest. I can't help but think he may get hit harder than any of the skeptics (myself incldued) think he will.

Either way, we are going to see exactly how serious the AA is by their new focus on compliance.
 
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