Bryce Brown (CLOSED)

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utmba93 said:
There's like... one defense in the Pac 10... and that's the one that dominates it. Simple equation but all of USC's foes continue to think they'll beat them with a better offense. It makes Pete look brilliant.

I wouldn't want the first defense I played against to be one in the NFL. Not only does that make scouts question what would happen if he played against good defenses (thus a lower draft pick), but it can shorten one's career considerably as the speed of the game makes old moves that worked ineffective at that level.
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Jonathan Stewart didn't have a problem with the transition to the nfl.
 
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utmba93 said:
From the Dennis Dodd article...

The whole #2 rushing offense for UO seems bogus. Actually, I thought both Navy and Air Force had more rushing yards last year. Then play against similar defenses.
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Seems bogus? Have you watched their offense? They are insanely good at getting their RB's into space. I can easily see why top backs would be interested in playing for that.
 
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This is another example of a mainstream media guy being incredibly vague and putting words out there that he's not providing a basis for.

"Based on conversations I've had"... With who? Bryce? If so, where are the quotes? If not, with who? Your neighbor? A local sports talk host? Who?

After asking Bryce DIRECTLY, not a "best guess", there has been NO narrowing. NONE. He is equally considering UT, KSU, Miami, LSU and Oregon. That was on the record. Quotable. Bryce has never said one word, on the record or off, to me about caring how he's marketed. As a matter of fact, said he did NOT want to be the focal point, that he wanted to be part of a team with a lot of guys being successful. I asked him a question that was almost EXACTLY in that line of thought.

I think it's sad that guys like this take a chance to put things out there about a kid that people are going to read for possible fact, and don't have a quote, audio or anything to back it up. Nothing.

Don't base what you think of this kid on this article. It paints a picture of him that isn't true.
 
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VSPN817 said:
This is another example of a mainstream media guy being incredibly vague and putting words out there that he's not providing a basis for.

"Based on conversations I've had"... With who? Bryce? If so, where are the quotes? If not, with who? Your neighbor? A local sports talk host? Who?

After asking Bryce DIRECTLY, not a "best guess", there has been NO narrowing. NONE. He is equally considering UT, KSU, Miami, LSU and Oregon. That was on the record. Quotable. Bryce has never said one word, on the record or off, to me about caring how he's marketed. As a matter of fact, said he did NOT want to be the focal point, that he wanted to be part of a team with a lot of guys being successful. I asked him a question that was almost EXACTLY in that line of thought.

I think it's sad that guys like this take a chance to put things out there about a kid that people are going to read for possible fact, and don't have a quote, audio or anything to back it up. Nothing.

Don't base what you think of this kid on this article. It paints a picture of him that isn't true.
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I have been saying this for a while. When I have talked to Bryce he seemed like a Normal kid to me. Very funny, and I'd prob hangout with him no matter what school he attended. He will be successful in more than just football.
 
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toxicdonut said:
Jonathan Stewart didn't have a problem with the transition to the nfl.
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Obviously, I never said JS had trouble transitioning nor did I say it couldn't be done; only that it is a more difficult transition. And, going to the League without adequate proof of oneself can come at a cost (literally by reducing one's draft stock).

For example, what we don't know in Stewart's case is how much higher than 13th he might have been picked had he proven himself repeatably against SEC caliber defenses, as Darren McFadden did (picked 4th). Stewart had better first year numbers than DM. Who knows... he could be better than McFadden, but if he is, he's not getting paid for it. Why? Because he played college football for an obscure team in Oregon and wasn't tested well enough to encourage risk averse NFL teams to pick him earlier, while McFadden benefited from the glory and attention that comes with playing SEC football--and proving oneself against the best defenses in the country.

And the awards and recognition (fame) that DM carried from his college career forward versus what JS had is quite remarkable.

McFadden was also drafted by a brilliant NFL coach considered by many to be one of the rising superstars in the coaching profession.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I could be wrong on this, but a scholarship athlete has different requirements to enter school than a normal student and most of that is guidelines and restrictions on things by the NCAA.
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You are right. When I went to wrestle at Carson-Newman, we(the athletes) who had already signed papers had a meeting at student orientation with a rep. from the NCAA making sure we understood everything about academic regulations blah blah blah. He basically said that scholarship athletes aren't regular people, they are investments by the school, that's why it's a different process.
 
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SD189 said:
You are right. When I went to wrestle at Carson-Newman, we(the athletes) who had already signed papers had a meeting at student orientation with a rep. from the NCAA making sure we understood everything about academic regulations blah blah blah. He basically said that scholarship athletes aren't regular people, they are investments by the school, that's why it's a different process.
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Thanks for the backup. :good!:
 
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No prob. If not for some of the loopholes made for athletes, there is no way a lot of these big time recruits would make it in to college.
 
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utmba93 said:
Obviously, I never said JS had trouble transitioning nor did I say it couldn't be done; only that it is a more difficult transition. And, going to the League without adequate proof of oneself can come at a cost (literally by reducing one's draft stock).

For example, what we don't know in Stewart's case is how much higher than 13th he might have been picked had he proven himself repeatably against SEC caliber defenses, as Darren McFadden did (picked 4th). Stewart had better first year numbers than DM. Who knows... he could be better than McFadden, but if he is, he's not getting paid for it. Why? Because he played college football for an obscure team in Oregon and wasn't tested well enough to encourage risk averse NFL teams to pick him earlier, while McFadden benefited from the glory and attention that comes with playing SEC football--and proving oneself against the best defenses in the country.

And the awards and recognition (fame) that DM carried from his college career forward versus what JS had is quite remarkable.

McFadden was also drafted by a brilliant NFL coach considered by many to be one of the rising superstars in the coaching profession.
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I wonder about this. How obscure is Oregon? Really. Do you think that NFL teams don't pay attention to them? Afterall, they have 3 top 10 finishes since 2000. That is two more than we have btw...

Furthermore, I think comments like this reveal your ignorance. We are talking about a BCS conference and a team that is routinely a top 3 finisher in its conference. Oregon may be obscure to a casual fan like yourself but you can bet that talent, no matter where you are will be found.
 
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He didnt say the talent wouldnt be found. He implied there might be a few question marks. Lets say two backs have similar numbers and similar success with similar running styles, one in the PAC and one in the SEC. Which do you think an NFL coach would be more inclined to favor?
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Volfan_TrappedN_KY said:
I have been saying this for a while. When I have talked to Bryce he seemed like a Normal kid to me. Very funny, and I'd prob hangout with him no matter what school he attended. He will be successful in more than just football.
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yep. as i have said before, and coming out of wichhita i can vouch for the kid, i know his fam...the kid is a good kid. he wants to win. he wants to be pushed. he wants to go to the nfl. he loves ball. he will be a good fit for the team and the university. good student...all around good guy. the media has butchered the kid. we want this kid from more than a football perspective.
 
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