Bryce Browns first season at Kansas St

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VOODOOVOL said:
Huge screw up for Bryce. Summer work outs are voluntary in name only.

It puts Snyder in a no win situation.

If he starts BB, it's not going to go over with the guys that have been busting their ass all Summer.

If he doesn't start him, he may not put himself in a position to win very many games.

The other players on the team don't care what he was rated out of high school, they just wonder why they are out working in the sun and Bryce is sitting in the dorm drinking lemonade.
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Was Bryce sitting in the dorm drinking lemonade?
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therealUT said:
It is possible that Bryce is lacking work ethic; it is just as much of a possibility that he would rather work out on his own back in Wichita (who knows, he could be training with Barry Sanders). The only true statement appears to be that Bryce was not invlved in voluntary team workouts. This lack of participation should be a reason to not be team captain; however, if he is the best running back on the team (if), then participation in voluntary activities should not factor in to whether or not he starts.
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That worked out real well for Tate Forcier. Everyone with half a brain knows that "voluntary" summer workouts are anything but. I doubt there is a major program around that is okay with a player doing his own workouts as long as he is the best player.
 
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Smokefatty said:
That worked out real well for Tate Forcier. Everyone with half a brain knows that "voluntary" summer workouts are anything but. I doubt there is a major program around that is okay with a player doing his own workouts as long as he is the best player.
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Seems to me that would indicate that the coaches have as much of an ego problem as the players they are deriding.
 
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therealUT said:
Seems to me that would indicate that the coaches have as much of an ego problem as the players they are deriding.
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I would speculate that most of the coaches have oversized egos, but I also think it is part of the coach's job to set the curriculum for his team to follow year-round (even when he technically can't supervise). Failure to follow that curriculum by a player indicates laziness, ego problems, or a lack of interest in playing football. Failure to set the curriculum by the coach is an indication of incompetence.
 
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Smokefatty said:
I would speculate that most of the coaches have oversized egos, but I also think it is part of the coach's job to set the curriculum for his team to follow year-round (even when he technically can't supervise). Failure to follow that curriculum by a player indicates laziness, ego problems, or a lack of interest in playing football. Failure to set the curriculum by the coach is an indication of incompetence.
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The NCAA actually mandates that the coach cannot and shall not set such a year-round curriculum. Failure to follow such an unauthorized curriculum would actually mean that the player is meeting the intent of the NCAA. Failure to set the curriculum is an indication of moral integrity by the coach.

Bryce Brown decided not to work out with his teammates. Like I said, that is not synonymous with decided not to workout or try to improve as a football player. If it came out that Bryce was working in his home town with home town resident and legend Barry Sanders would you say that Bryce was being lazy or was not trying to improve as a football player?
 
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you got to admit, its pretty funny that Bryce Brown was selected Pre-Season All Big-12 without playing a down for KSU, and he was the ONLY person on his team on the list
 
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therealUT said:
The NCAA actually mandates that the coach cannot and shall not set such a year-round curriculum. Failure to follow such an unauthorized curriculum would actually mean that the player is meeting the intent of the NCAA. Failure to set the curriculum is an indication of moral integrity by the coach.

Bryce Brown decided not to work out with his teammates. Like I said, that is not synonymous with decided not to workout or try to improve as a football player. If it came out that Bryce was working in his home town with home town resident and legend Barry Sanders would you say that Bryce was being lazy or was not trying to improve as a football player?
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I would say he has an ego problem or doesn't really want to be at K. State. Could be either under your scenario but you don't just skip "voluntary" workouts when you know they aren't really voluntary (unless he's a complete idiot, which I don't believe).
 
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Smokefatty said:
I would say he has an ego problem or doesn't really want to be at K. State. Could be either under your scenario but you don't just skip "voluntary" workouts when you know they aren't really voluntary (unless he's a complete idiot, which I don't believe).
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If I felt I could get a better workout elsewhere, I would skip a voluntary workout.
 
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I guess that makes sense if you don't really care about your relationship with your teammates, coaches, or your spot in the depth chart.
 
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Smokefatty said:
I guess that makes sense if you don't really care about your relationship with your teammates, coaches, or your spot in the depth chart.
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Why does relationship matter? Why can't he just be better than everyone else on the team at being a running back? Why does he have to be a "good teammate" and/or a leader?

It seems to me that his job this fall will be to block well, run well, pick the right holes, and run the right routes; be popular and/or a locker room politician is horse sh**.
 
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therealUT said:
Why does relationship matter? Why can't he just be better than everyone else on the team at being a running back? Why does he have to be a "good teammate" and/or a leader?

It seems to me that his job this fall will be to block well, run well, pick the right holes, and run the right routes; be popular and/or a locker room politician is horse sh**.
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Gosh, I dunno, because it's a team sport, and it helps to have lots of reps with the guys you're going to be playing with, and have some mutual respect going on?

But as I recall, you started some weird nit-picky thing like this on another thread, so never mind.
 
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VolNExile said:
Gosh, I dunno, because it's a team sport, and it helps to have lots of reps with the guys you're going to be playing with, and have some mutual respect going on?

But as I recall, you started some weird nit-picky thing like this on another thread, so never mind.
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This is probably the reason Bo Jackson was such a terrible running back...
 
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therealUT said:
It is possible that Bryce is lacking work ethic; it is just as much of a possibility that he would rather work out on his own back in Wichita (who knows, he could be training with Barry Sanders). The only true statement appears to be that Bryce was not invlved in voluntary team workouts. This lack of participation should be a reason to not be team captain; however, if he is the best running back on the team (if), then participation in voluntary activities should not factor in to whether or not he starts.
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What sports have you played? What level?
 
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therealUT said:
Without making an assumption, then how would you be using my answer to "explain (my) previous comments"?
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I asked you a question.
You answered with a question. Shows evasiveness.
I had concluded before asking you said question, that you are either ignorant of those particular situations or just want to be argumentative.

Either way.
 
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VOODOOVOL said:
I asked you a question.
You answered with a question. Shows evasiveness.
I had concluded before asking you said question, that you are either ignorant of those particular situations or just want to be argumentative.

Either way.
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I do not think the question is in any way relevant to the discussion and you have failed to prove how it should be relevant. That said, if you so desperately want to know, I played varsity football (safety) and basketball (point guard); after that, I led a troops in combat as an Infantry Officer (which, for all intents and purposes, requires teamwork and leadership at the highest level).

Does this explain my answers in the way you thought it would?
 
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therealUT said:
I do not think the question is in any way relevant to the discussion and you have failed to prove how it should be relevant. That said, if you so desperately want to know, I played varsity football (safety) and basketball (point guard); after that, I led a troops in combat as an Infantry Officer (which, for all intents and purposes, requires teamwork and leadership at the highest level).

Does this explain my answers in the way you thought it would?
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Actually, it just brings up more questions. Also goes against your other statements.
 
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You've got 4 months to train troops for deployment, an E-2 tells you that he's going to freelance for 3 of those months, that's not a problem to you?
 
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VOODOOVOL said:
You've got 4 months to train troops for deployment, an E-2 tells you that he's going to freelance for 3 of those months, that's not a problem to you?
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The training is not voluntary; it has never been labeled voluntary; the DoD has not sent down a directive telling me that I could not institute a training plan.

That said, the 45-50 days prior to deployment are pretty open and chalk full of block leave after the NTC/JRCT rotation; many of the Joe's are in and out and there is no field training for those months.
 
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