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Didn’t have the time to get one up after Nova so figured instead of doing 2 threads I would basically just do 1 report covering both games…

1. I’m not sure anyone expected those 2 results, 1-1 isn’t surprisingly in the least and was really the expectation, but to lose in the fashion we did I never saw coming and on the flip side I didn’t see a win like that coming against any of those teams this weekend…a very strange weekend that maybe has us actually asking more questions than we went into the week with, and thinking we’d have answers for.

2. I think Nova is a great team, I also think that our strength is our guards and that their guards at this stage are just better, we don’t have a dominate post game to make them pay there. I think that first game also showed how important Chandler is, that first play of the game in retrospect was massive…what should’ve been a block, a likely 3-0 Tennessee lead and a Nova starter with a foul immediately flips to a 0-0 game and foul on Chandler, it wasn’t much later he picked up his 2nd and was done. We weren’t flawless in the 2nd half with him by any means but definitely thought we looked much better against them with Chandler than without, no way we were keeping it close without him and Barnes probably should’ve rolled the dice and played him with 2 fouls.

3. On the flip side of that you have today, Tennessee beats a ranked team just about as badly as we got whipped yesterday…our guard play was absolutely dominant and we were missing arguably our best defensive piece and versatile offensive piece in JJJ. Credit to the staff and the team for bouncing back, would’ve been real easy to pack it up and head home 0-2, instead you leave with a loss to a Top 5 team and a win against a Top 20 team, all in all that’s probably a net positive big picture.

4. Some advanced analytic numbers…against Nova offensively we put up a 79.1 rating and defensively a 106.0 rating…today offensively was a 125.3 and defensively 101.4…our defense really wasn’t that bad against Nova considering how good they are offensively, we were just absolutely abysmal offensively…today’s offensive numbers looked like our first 2 games, so was Nova an outlier? They exposed something? What happens without Chandler? Not sure, but that needs to be addressed for sure cause it was fugly.

5. Santiago Vescovi is my player of the tournament for Tennessee, he’s the only guy to show up both games, so pretty easy choice…averaged 20ppg and shot right at about 40% from 3, also averaged 7.5rpg in the 2 games, he’s played really good defense and his improved quickness was very easy to see I thought. He can handle PG if needed but definitely not ideal, however he’s a really good 2 guard imo and quite possibly will lead the team in scoring this year and get some accolades.

6. This one may get long and be quite a run on, but just a few different thoughts getting compiled together…I just don’t see a way you play Plavsic going forward unless it’s a team with a bruising big man that we are unable to push the tempo against, option 1 against such a player should still be Fulky and trying to push the pace and spread the floor. Going off that, Zeigler showed in this game that he deserves plenty more opportunities, he’s tough as nails, can score inside, be a pest defensively, and looks like he’s finding his 3pt shot. James, even though not a huge sample size, is 1/15 from 3…that’s not gonna stretch the floor from the 3 position, he continues to look better suited for the 4, but that would require Barnes committing to small ball and pretty much removing Uros. To me the strength of this team is the guards, the quickness, and the 3pt shooting. We played a lot of small ball today and had 50+ paint points, only took 20 3pt attempts, had 28 assists on 38 made fg, I say that to say that just cause we are small doesn’t mean the ball can’t go inside. I like…

Chandler/Zeigler
Vescovi/Bailey
Powell
James
Fulk/ORN/BHH

ORN getting some minutes at the 4, but for the most part James would be your 4…I feel those are our best players and best plays to our strengths.

7. We sit at 3-1, have a good neutral site win and a neutral site loss to what looks like a Top 5 team, no harm done this weekend at all, but do need to use it as a learning experience and to improve on. Take a look at our next 6 games per BartTorvik, next 2 our home for what should be 20+ point favorites, then @ Colorado and N Texas Tech, both of which we are slightly favored in, 1-1 should be the minimum but 2-0 definitely possible, then 2 more H cupcakes that should probably be 20+ point favorites in. So 5-1 at worst should be the expectation over the next 6, get us to 8-2 or 9-1 and we are in a pretty good spot through our first 10 games.


GBO!
 
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A few thoughts moving forward:
1. Great performance from ZZZ. he certainly brings a lot to the table. Do we get exposed by bigger guards with him and KC on the court at the same time? Can he be consistent?
2. I thought BHH looked good. He has skills Fulky and Olivier don’t.
3. Vescovi rebounded well. The Vols will need that If we do go small with Z and KC running together.
4. Vescovi played another good game today and Powell looked good. We have great guard depth. Hard to see Bailey getting g a lot of minutes moving forward.
 
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Vescovi was phenomenal this weekend, the folks who were bashing him during the Villanova game have been oddly quiet…

Super excited about having not one but seemingly two(!) electric point guards after really struggling in that department since Bone left. Z kinda reminds me of Bone actually

ON did better than I expected this weekend, not great but good, certainly better than Uros, and better too then BHH, but I think BHH started showing some real improvement today, think he’ll catch up and surpass soon. Should be a good battle for minutes there as I think everybody now agrees Josiah is a 4 as well

Fulk looked the best he has in a while today, that was nice to see. If I remember correctly he had a break out game his freshman year against the Tar Heels so that’s some nice symmetry

Overall I’m leaving this weekend feeling more positive than I went in, albeit slightly.
 
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You know, it’s quite interesting see how so many on this board have come away with the same conclusions on what our strengths and weaknesses are after this tournament, I only hope Barnes does the same. It was clear he was using this tournament to experiment with some rotations, and IMO it is pretty evident now what we learned.

Plavsic is a liability. Bailey has never seen a shot he doesn’t like, he just doesn’t make many of them. We played our best basketball in BOTH games when we had smaller lineups that spread the floor. A 10-11 man rotation is fine against cupcakes, but it’s clear who the 8 best players on this roster are and your 9th and 10th options (Plav and Bailey) shouldn’t see the floor much.

It will be interesting to see how these next few games go, but the rotation HAS to shrink.
 
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Zeigler
Chandler
Vescovi
Nkamhoua/Huntley H
Fulkerson

With Powel thrown in the mix “to me” was by far the best lineup we have seen this season.

Just one game, and you don’t know if “some” of those guys will be consistent……..but out of 4 games……..that was the best we’ve seen (in my opinion).
 
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I definitely see less time for Bailey happening unless there’s foul trouble for the other 3. I think Powell can play the 2 if needed.
Uros probably sees less time too, as soon as he enters the game the opposition puts him in a pick and roll situations and he just isn’t quick enough or good enough defensively at this point to handle them.
 
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You guys are bat shart crazy if you don’t think a healthy JJJ is not one of the top 8 guys on this team

I could be wrong; however I looked over every post and I didn’t see one which stated James was not one of the top 8 players……..heck I’m not sure I saw one that said he wasn’t one of the top 6 or even 5.

Can’t speak for anyone else; however for my post I merely stated that out of 4 games……..that was the best lineup we had seen…….over the corse of that particular one game.

James certainly plays good D; however his O has been lacking so far (3 games in)

1-8 / 0-5 2 points
2-6 / 1-4 9 points
1-8 / 0-6 2 points

He’ll improve on this I’m sure; however right now it is what it is.

On the flip side you got some freshmen and you never know how consistent they will be.
 
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I was glad to see Fulky back to his old self today, Z looked great too! Nova was a burn the tape game; I know they are good, but we didn't seem to play very well. You mention KC not being in there after picking up two fouls, well my God, he was only 1 of 9 from the field when he was in there, and some of those were easy layups. Basically he was not ready for the big stage, but played much better today. We need to run more plays to get Powell his shot, that son of a gun can shoot.
 
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I agree with everything except for Villanova being a great team. We laid an egg yesterday. I think that game was more about us, than it was them. We showed some resiliency today, however.

We had a couple of heartbreakers vs the Heels 4 and 5 years ago. This win is pretty sweet.
 
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I could be wrong; however I looked over every post and I didn’t see one which stated James was not one of the top 8 players……..heck I’m not sure I saw one that said he wasn’t one of the top 6 or even 5.

Can’t speak for anyone else; however for my post I merely stated that out of 4 games……..that was the best lineup we had seen…….over the corse of that particular one game.

James certainly plays good D; however his O has been lacking so far (3 games in)

1-8 / 0-5 2 points
2-6 / 1-4 9 points
1-8 / 0-6 2 points

He’ll improve on this I’m sure; however right now it is what it is.

On the flip side you got some freshmen and you never know how consistent they will be.
His O hasn't improved that much in three years, yeah it is what it is; should have not been a five star.
 
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Bailey had an abysmal tournament and shouldn't be more than the 9th man off the bench getting minimal minutes, IMO. I'm more than fine splitting James and ORN at the 4 in favor of any additional minutes for VB.

I don't think Bailey played at all in the 2nd half.
 
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I agree with everything except for Villanova being a great team. We laid an egg yesterday. I think that game was more about us, than it was them. We showed some resiliency today, however.

We had a couple of heartbreakers vs the Heels 4 and 5 years ago. This win is pretty sweet.
Defensively they looked good, but I'm like you, offensively they were average.
 
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His O hasn't improved that much in three years, yeah it is what it is; should have not been a five star.

He’s a big strong kid, can get some rebounds……not sure why he doesn’t take it to the hole more.

Heck I’m no basketball genius…..but I think that alone could improve his O.
 
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I've seen enough of Bailey. Give his minutes to Powell. I'd also sit Plavsic and focus on getting HH up to speed before the SEC grind is upon us. As for JJJ, I've all but given up on expectations where he's concerned. Sometimes, he's a glue guy who can be a leader for this team and at other times....
 
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Good write up, only place I may differ is that I think Baileys minute should go down, way down after this tournament. Powell needs more minutes whether that comes from James sliding over to the 4 or whatever else, he deserves some more, that alone could lower Baileys. Completely agree on Uros, BHH should take more of those minutes, but he needs to be more consistent.
 
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I didn't expect the Vols to beat Villanova. And to be honest, I wasn't expecting a win today, especially after looking so bad yesterday.

That said, it looks like the Vols were able to clean some things up and if they can keep it that way, will have a great season.

I look forward to it! Go Vols!
 
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I've seen enough of Bailey. Give his minutes to Powell. I'd also sit Plavsic and focus on getting HH up to speed before the SEC grind is upon us. As for JJJ, I've all but given up on expectations where he's concerned. Sometimes, he's a glue guy who can be a leader for this team and at other times....

When JJJ is healthy he’s been one of our best/most important players, unfortunately he hasn’t been able to stay healthy throughout his career.

Gotta wonder if he’s been dealing with the finger injury all season. He’s definitely a better shooter and player than he’s been thus far.
 
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Good insights everyone.

I was concerned that our freshmen weren't really prepared for the big stage. It appears for some reason that our veterans weren't either (didn't get to see the game).

I think this trip will pay major dividends over the course of the season. It was just what the doctor ordered, and I wouldn't think we would drop in the polls.

Really thrilled to think that we have two good point guards; and not only that, but they seem to play well together.
 
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I am 5'10" and I can score on Plavsic. Great teammate but his role should be "Rudy" and I say that in a complimentary way. We have to stop playing him.
 
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Yesterday's game against Villanova was a rout plain and simple. They are a great team and played us very well. They lost to Purdue today but kept it close.

I'm glad we rebounded and beat a good UNC team. It showed a lot about this team. I think UNC will have a nice season if they get some improvement in their guard and post play.

GBO
 
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Played just a slight amount of zone defense. Maybe we’ll see more of that this year to allow more opportunities to put KC and ZZZ on the floor together. Plus Uros (and BHH and Aidoo) should be better at protecting the rim than the perimeter.

Never find. I forgot that Barnes is a stubborn old coot that is too set in his tired routine.
 

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