BTO’s LSU Postgame Report

#26
#26
omghulkhands said:
Having any of Aidoo, Uros or Awaka on the floor would not meet my definition of small ball.

Small ball is about having lots of switch-ability on defense (which those 3 can’t really do)

Being able to run the floor with anybody
(Which they don’t do well)

And being able to spread the floor on offense
(only Aidoo has that ability)
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Unfortunately ON doesn’t run the floor most of the time. As far as that criteria goes, both Aidoo and Awaka bust it up and down the floor.
 
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#27
#27
rdk4121 said:
I have to be honest, I don't think I love the small ball lineup, at least with ON at the 5. He's kind of fallen off a cliff the last few games. He can still struggle with the physicality of opposing 5s, but he's probably to good to keep off the court as well (or has the potential to be).

I think I would rather just start Aidoo with ON and Uros coming off the bench. The ON and Uros pairing has been a pretty darn good one all year long, so I think it makes sense to keep it together. Adding Key to the bench to go with those two really can more than keep us afloat.
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JJJ is putting up better numbers than either of those, why keep him on the bench so we can play 2 posts neither of which we all admit is very good?
 
#28
#28
walkenvol said:
I prefer we keep playing the lineup we’ve been using except play JJJ 25 minutes at the 4 and 5 minutes at the 3 if his knees will allow. Cut ON back to 15 minutes at the 4 as he’s taken a huge step back in production the last several games. Start Uros at the 5 and split the minutes there with Aidoo giving more minutes to whoever is being more effective that game. I think we are better defensively with one of the bigs in the game.Find 5-10 minutes for Awaka as he continues to develop.
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It’s gonna be slightly matchup dependent, but right now JJJ is our best/most consistent 4, whoever is at the 5 it’s probably doesn’t matter much.
 
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#29
#29
bleedingTNorange said:
It’s gonna be slightly matchup dependent, but right now JJJ is our best/most consistent 4, whoever is at the 5 it’s probably doesn’t matter much.
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Yeah, gotta love this. I will be very interested watching how all this plays out in regards to specific matchups as we go forward. That part is a story within the story which just might give us a big boost.
 
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#30
bleedingTNorange said:
JJJ is putting up better numbers than either of those, why keep him on the bench so we can play 2 posts neither of which we all admit is very good?
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When did I say bench Jo? I said start Aidoo, to allow ON and Uros to come off the bench together to keep that pairing together. That obviously means Jo would be starting at the 4 with Aidoo at the 5.
 
#31
#31
rdk4121 said:
When did I say bench Jo? I said start Aidoo, to allow ON and Uros to come off the bench together to keep that pairing together. That obviously means Jo would be starting at the 4 with Aidoo at the 5.
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I gotcha, I misread what you were saying.
 
#32
#32
bleedingTNorange said:
JJJ is putting up better numbers than either of those, why keep him on the bench so we can play 2 posts neither of which we all admit is very good?
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One reason is he has an injured knee and why play him 40 minutes when we are winning by double digits? We need him healthy win tournament time rolls around more than we need him now.
 
#33
#33
VOLINVONORE said:
One reason is he has an injured knee and why play him 40 minutes when we are winning by double digits? We need him healthy win tournament time rolls around more than we need him now.
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When did he play 40 minutes in a double digit win? If the knee is giving no issues at all then you’ve got a decision to make, he had issues going back to September and Barnes hasn’t been able to have him out there practicing much or tinker with lineups. It’s kind of a now or never thing, I don’t think we are at our best yet and you want to be at your best. There’s also the added in part that the more you win now the better your seed thus also improving your chances of advancing.
 
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#34
rdk4121 said:
When did I say bench Jo? I said start Aidoo, to allow ON and Uros to come off the bench together to keep that pairing together. That obviously means Jo would be starting at the 4 with Aidoo at the 5.
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This would be our best lineup. ZZ, SV, JP, JJJ, JA.

Aidoo is more active, offers rim protection, less TO's and rebounds at a higher rate. I think he's better at finding his spots underneath as well.

Subbing in Key, Mashack, ON and Uros gives us a bigger lineup too for the second unit. I don't think many programs have that luxury.
 
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#37
#37
cncchris33 said:
Can't argue with the first four. I could likely make an argument for Aidoo over Nkamhoua, but it isn't a slam dunk type thing. Either/or for me.
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Barnes has an affinity for Nkamhoua and always has. He understands his potential and he loves the guy. I can’t blame him, but I just think on some nights he wins you some games and some nights he loses you some games. It’s a 50/50 proposition. The upside to ON is very high and he’s banking on that. In my viewpoint, history has shown he’s either totally present or totally absent.
 
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#38
#38
cncchris33 said:
Can't argue with the first four. I could likely make an argument for Aidoo over Nkamhoua, but it isn't a slam dunk type thing. Either/or for me.
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Yea as I’ve been saying any 5 man can have a case be made for them, stick with those 4 and go with hot hand at the 5. Like I said a few days ago I can see them hoping the magic light comes on for Nkamhoua because he probably could raise our ceiling higher than any other 5 we have, but we also know he’s inconsistent, so I get the move to go with him but also a real quick leash.
 
#39
#39
cardvolfan said:
Barnes has an affinity for Nkamhoua and always has. He understands his potential and he loves the guy. I can’t blame him, but I just think on some nights he wins you some games and some nights he loses you some games. It’s a 50/50 proposition. The upside to ON is very high and he’s banking on that. In my viewpoint, history has shown he’s either totally present or totally absent.
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We likely aren’t losing a game in first 2 minutes, if Nkamhoua has a disappearing act to start the game then he gets pulled immediately.
 
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#41
bleedingTNorange said:
We likely aren’t losing a game in first 2 minutes, if Nkamhoua has a disappearing act to start the game then he gets pulled immediately.
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We can certainly dig a huge hole in the first couple of minutes. But defense has kept that from happening. We still end up with somebody getting two quick fouls pretty often. Not as bad as it seemed with Grant and Admiral though.
 
#42
#42
bleedingTNorange said:
Fwiw Barnes said today the lineup they’re going with if everyone is healthy is Zeigler, Santi, Phillips, JJJ & Nkamhoua.
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I believe in CRB and if he thinks that’s best then it just shows how much I don’t know about basketball. ON is going to have to get his act together every game or we have other 5’s on this roster who bring a lot of good things to the court.
 
#44
#44
Thunder Good-Oil said:
We can certainly dig a huge hole in the first couple of minutes. But defense has kept that from happening. We still end up with somebody getting two quick fouls pretty often. Not as bad as it seemed with Grant and Admiral though.
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Yea our defense has done a great job of that, would be curious on first media timeout scores, seems like we’ve rarely trailed and if we have definitely not by much.
 
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#46
#46
walkenvol said:
I believe in CRB and if he thinks that’s best then it just shows how much I don’t know about basketball. ON is going to have to get his act together every game or we have other 5’s on this roster who bring a lot of good things to the court.
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I think looking at who’s the 5 is the wrong move, look at the other 4, that’s what’s important. The 5 isn’t some loud declaration, it’s just hoping to get something out of ON, if he doesn’t bring it he’ll be yanked.
 
#47
#47
Like others have said, Nkamhoua has a short leash.

Even if he starts and doesn’t contribute, Barnes will put somebody else in so it’s not that big of a deal.
 
#48
#48
walkenvol said:
Absolutely - and it surprises me every time I see ON walking up the court if immediately CRB doesn’t send someone to the table to sub ON out!
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So then maybe Barnes is ok with it? I rarely see it defensively or Nkamhoua getting beat down the court for an open bucket, in fact I recall many chase down blocks, I notice it more on the offensive end which lends itself to him getting some trail 3 looks.
 
#49
#49
bleedingTNorange said:
I think looking at who’s the 5 is the wrong move, look at the other 4, that’s what’s important. The 5 isn’t some loud declaration, it’s just hoping to get something out of ON, if he doesn’t bring it he’ll be yanked.
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I posted a couple days back that I’d play JJJ as much as his knees would stand at the 4 with Phillips at the 3. I like Aidoo / Uros splitting minutes at the 5. Find Awaka 5-10 minutes at either the 4 or 5. ON’s lack of hustle and consistency as a senior has soured me on him and I don’t know that I’d play him any more. This is just my fan opinion from only watching the games. I believe in CRB infinitely more than myself to make the right roster decisions so obviously I don’t know what’s best.
 
#50
#50
bleedingTNorange said:
So then maybe Barnes is ok with it? I rarely see it defensively or Nkamhoua getting beat down the court for an open bucket, in fact I recall many chase down blocks, I notice it more on the offensive end which lends itself to him getting some trail 3 looks.
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Have you noticed how often for a senior he loses his man especially on out of bounds plays that leads to a shot at the basket for the other team? Or how he goes up to challenge a shot at the rim and instead of keeping his arms vertical he swings his arms at the shooter and draws the whistle? Or how lately he keeps passing up good shots only for us to end up taking a bad shot late in the clock? When he’s playing good, he’s a strong contributor but it’s become crazy the degree of inconsistency he brings. Hopefully CRB can get the best out of ON down the stretch.
 
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