BTO’s LSU Postgame Report

#51
#51
walkenvol said:
Have you noticed how often for a senior he loses his man especially on out of bounds plays that leads to a shot at the basket for the other team? Or how he goes up to challenge a shot at the rim and instead of keeping his arms vertical he swings his arms at the shooter and draws the whistle? Or how lately he keeps passing up good shots only for us to end up taking a bad shot late in the clock? When he’s playing good, he’s a strong contributor but it’s become crazy the degree of inconsistency he brings. Hopefully CRB can get the best out of ON down the stretch.
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I could post the negative things that Uros, Awaka or Aidoo do as well, but at this point it’s clear, you hate ON and love the others to the point that you’re very biased and only see the things that fit the narrative you want it to fit.
 
#52
#52
walkenvol said:
Have you noticed how often for a senior he loses his man especially on out of bounds plays that leads to a shot at the basket for the other team? Or how he goes up to challenge a shot at the rim and instead of keeping his arms vertical he swings his arms at the shooter and draws the whistle? Or how lately he keeps passing up good shots only for us to end up taking a bad shot late in the clock? When he’s playing good, he’s a strong contributor but it’s become crazy the degree of inconsistency he brings. Hopefully CRB can get the best out of ON down the stretch.
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Fwiw analytics which are unbiased computer statistics also say that Nkamhoua is our best or 2nd best big, so clearly not just Barnes who sees something you aren’t.
 
#53
#53
bleedingTNorange said:
I could post the negative things that Uros, Awaka or Aidoo do as well, but at this point it’s clear, you hate ON and love the others to the point that you’re very biased and only see the things that fit the narrative you want it to fit.
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Now you’re projecting as I never ever said I hate ON. I said I’ve soured on him because of his wild inconsistency and not giving maximum effort all the time. We’ve all seen him play really well in some games then completely disappear the next. For a senior I just don’t get it.
 
#54
#54
walkenvol said:
Now you’re projecting as I never ever said I hate ON. I said I’ve soured on him because of his wild inconsistency and not giving maximum effort all the time. We’ve all seen him play really well in some games then completely disappear the next. For a senior I just don’t get it.
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Didn’t mean personal hate, just as a player, clear dislike. As evidenced by your mentioning of him being a senior, yet 5th year (extra year) senior Plavsic gets plenty of leeway & praise from you, interesting.
 
#55
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bleedingTNorange said:
Didn’t mean personal hate, just as a player, clear dislike. As evidenced by your mentioning of him being a senior, yet 5th year (extra year) senior Plavsic gets plenty of leeway & praise from you, interesting.
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I’ve always said Uros is a role player and I view him through that lense - I think he plays very close to his ability level and he always gives it 110%. That’s what I like is for guys to play with maximum effort every game and by the time they’re seniors to be producing close to their ability level. ON has shown fringe all-SEC ability in stretches then just goes dark which has resulted in my fandom souring towards him. I don’t see my views as being inconsistent at all. Hope ON gets his act together and plays out of his mind the rest of the year, but I’ll have to see it. I know ZZZ, Vescovi, and JJJ will bring it every night and will be shocked if they don’t.
 
#56
#56
walkenvol said:
I’ve always said Uros is a role player and I view him through that lense - I think he plays very close to his ability level and he always gives it 110%. That’s what I like is for guys to play with maximum effort every game and by the time they’re seniors to be producing close to their ability level. ON has shown fringe all-SEC ability in stretches then just goes dark which has resulted in my fandom souring towards him. I don’t see my views as being inconsistent at all. Hope ON gets his act together and plays out of his mind the rest of the year, but I’ll have to see it. I know ZZZ, Vescovi, and JJJ will bring it every night and will be shocked if they don’t.
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Just because Nkamhoua doesn’t play as hard as maybe you think he should, or that he’s not reached the highest level he could doesn’t mean he’s still not a better player than Plav. As I pointed out the unbiased analytics say he’s better than Plav as well, and that’s as is, then add in as you say he has another level he can get to and it’s pretty clear why the correct move is to go with Nkamhoua and hope the light comes on.
 
#57
#57
bleedingTNorange said:
Just because Nkamhoua doesn’t play as hard as maybe you think he should, or that he’s not reached the highest level he could doesn’t mean he’s still not a better player than Plav. As I pointed out the unbiased analytics say he’s better than Plav as well, and that’s as is, then add in as you say he has another level he can get to and it’s pretty clear why the correct move is to go with Nkamhoua and hope the light comes on.
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I assume that’s CRB’s strategy and i always defer to him as he’s forgotten more than I know about the sport. As far as ON being “a better player than Plav”, I don’t think that’s an apples to apples comparison. I’d bet my house Tshiebwe would eat ON’s lunch, yet Uros has shown the ability to hold Oscar somewhat in check. They both bring different abilities to the team.
 
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#58
#58
All I know is that come tournament time it will be nice if all our healthy to have the luxury we have. Uros if team has a big we need him to defend if not ON who can stretch a team. Jonas and Tobe as well depth is our plus. NCAA is about match-up. We can do this. In CHRIST Alone
 
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#59
#59
bleedingTNorange said:
1. Rewatched the game this afternoon so wanted to put something out there, along with some recap given the crazy week that was college basketball. We saw a brand new lineup that we’ve yet to see this year and it was also the debut of small ball lineup which I mentioned a few days ago was going to be something we see more and more of with JJJ reemergence. Was a great debut as the Vols picked up another conference road win, obviously LSU isn’t very good but you still never take these for granted.

2. It’s now been 6 games since JJJ returned after being out for about a month and had us wondering if we had seen the last of him. In those 6 games he’s averaging 24mpg 11.2ppg 3.3rpg 44%fg 41%3pt 100%FT and seems to be getting stronger each time out. For a team that needed to be better offensively getting him back was huge for us and also gives us the versatility to play small as well which has been where we’ve been most efficient.

3. Another guy who maybe not coincidentally has also been playing very well the last 6 games is Zeigler…averaging right at 30mpg 10.5ppg 8apg 2.5topg 37%3pt 100%FT, he’s really been doing a great job of breaking things down off the dribble and finding guys in good spots to score. He’s always going to be a pest defensively as well, he’s playing some of his best basketball right now from an all around standpoint and could be looking at some all conference accolades come the end of the year.

4. I really liked what Key brought, he played less minutes coming off the bench but he seemed fresher and really hunted his shot which was nice to see. 18 minutes and 7 rebounds from a guard spot is super impressive, obviously some of that is lucky bounces but still was a great effort, if we are going to play small it will require 2-5 to really crash the boards, Key & James did a great job of that I thought for the guards and then Aidoo did as well from the 5 spot grabbing 7 rebounds in just 20 minutes.

5. After the loss to Kentucky the mood definitely had declined, but this team did a good job of getting on the road and picking up 2 wins away from TBA, that was exactly what they needed to do. Now you’ve got a very winnable game against Georgia at home which will then setup for the big one Saturday against Texas, college game day in town, should be a great chance for the Vols to get out there and makeup for the L to Kentucky. With the crazy week of ranked teams losing we did what we needed to and that was go 2-0, tomorrow in the new poll we should be back inside the Top 5 and in mock drafts we are now firmly on the 2 seed line with many projections having us as a 1 seed, gotta take care of business on Wednesday and then huge opportunity for the Vols.



GBO!!!
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The small ball lineup is very pesky on the defensive end and if James can continue his offensive emergence this week, that will take the offense up another notch.

Disu is the main player that Tennessee will have to defend Saturday night and Georgia could be a trap game on Wednesday if the team is looking forward to the jacked up atmosphere that is awaiting them on Saturday.
 
#60
#60
walkenvol said:
I’ve always said Uros is a role player and I view him through that lense - I think he plays very close to his ability level and he always gives it 110%. That’s what I like is for guys to play with maximum effort every game and by the time they’re seniors to be producing close to their ability level. ON has shown fringe all-SEC ability in stretches then just goes dark which has resulted in my fandom souring towards him. I don’t see my views as being inconsistent at all. Hope ON gets his act together and plays out of his mind the rest of the year, but I’ll have to see it. I know ZZZ, Vescovi, and JJJ will bring it every night and will be shocked if they don’t.
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For what it’s worth, I can tell you Barnes agrees with you. He’s said a number of things about inconsistencies that lower his ceiling. That’s exactly why he’s been ripped out of games very early recently. Relative to talent, Nkamhoua has underachieved on a consistent basis while Uros has objectively filled his role reasonably well. Yes, ON is one of the 3-4 best players on this team, but effort and consistency is, and has been in the past, a real problem. And yes, a player with his athleticism, talent, skills, etc can be a major factor in losses when that player severely underperforms in too many games.
 
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#61
cardvolfan said:
For what it’s worth, I can tell you Barnes agrees with you. He’s said a number of things about inconsistencies that lower his ceiling. That’s exactly why he’s been ripped out of games very early recently. Relative to talent, Nkamhoua has underachieved on a consistent basis while Uros has objectively filled his role reasonably well. Yes, ON is one of the 3-4 best players on this team, but effort and consistency is, and has been in the past, a real problem. And yes, a player with his athleticism, talent, skills, etc can be a major factor in losses when that player severely underperforms in too many games.
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#62
#62
walkenvol said:
I assume that’s CRB’s strategy and i always defer to him as he’s forgotten more than I know about the sport. As far as ON being “a better player than Plav”, I don’t think that’s an apples to apples comparison. I’d bet my house Tshiebwe would eat ON’s lunch, yet Uros has shown the ability to hold Oscar somewhat in check. They both bring different abilities to the team.
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You see Tshiebwe, 2x a year, maybe 3…he’s a unicorn that I wouldn’t base a whole season around. With that said, rather than matching him down low I would be rather interested in seeing Tshiebwe guard ON out past the 3pt line and trying to defend pick and rolls, he’s not good at all in that role and teams are exploiting that this year.
 
#63
#63
cardvolfan said:
For what it’s worth, I can tell you Barnes agrees with you. He’s said a number of things about inconsistencies that lower his ceiling. That’s exactly why he’s been ripped out of games very early recently. Relative to talent, Nkamhoua has underachieved on a consistent basis while Uros has objectively filled his role reasonably well. Yes, ON is one of the 3-4 best players on this team, but effort and consistency is, and has been in the past, a real problem. And yes, a player with his athleticism, talent, skills, etc can be a major factor in losses when that player severely underperforms in too many games.
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And yet for a tough nose guy like Barnes who loves yanking guys he continues to start….
 
#66
#66
bleedingTNorange said:
That Barnes doesn’t view his effort as a issue currently, inconsistency sure, but not effort or he wouldn’t be continuing to start him.
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So you think CRB is good with every aspect of anyone starting? I’d say there’s things he thinks they can all improve on and we all see to think consistent effort is one of those for ON
 
#67
#67
walkenvol said:
So you think CRB is good with every aspect of anyone starting? I’d say there’s things he thinks they can all improve on and we all see to think consistent effort is one of those for ON
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Effort is usually a no go zone for Barnes, especially if it’s routinely an issue every single game he plays.
 
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#68
#68
walkenvol said:
So you think CRB is good with every aspect of anyone starting? I’d say there’s things he thinks they can all improve on and we all see to think consistent effort is one of those for ON
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Any Tom, Dick, or Harry, without regard for basketball expertise, can surmise from observation that ON doesn’t hustle on a regular basis. Trying to make excuses for him only solidifies the inability to be objective. I can’t say I know the reasons for Barnes rotations with any players, but observation is not that hard.
 
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#69
#69
IMHO, ON gets perhaps a longer leash because he can do something nobody else on the team can effectively do (not counting Uros going off against UK): score in the post. And that's an absolute must to be able to grind out a win on the dreaded cold shooting night which could pop up at anytime.
 
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