Budweiser Pulls Controversial Beer Message

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Bigurnge said:
Maybe I didn't get what you were saying. Do they ban "robust" chics from Ruth's Chris?
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Lol no.......

It was in response to your comment that some actually prefer applebee's steaks to Ruth's Chris steaks........I mean they might, but there are also dudes that love a fatty over a chick who weighs less than they do lol.
 
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Bigurnge said:
If it was a craft beer before why wouldn't it be because they started making in mass quantities? Is that part of the criteria for craft drinkers to stamp their stigma of approval? "Can't be mass produced". Most people don't prefer an overbearing, malty, hoppy, beer especially if you're gonna drink more than one.
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Hipstes and craft beer go hand and hand. It's not cool once it goes mainstream.

In my mid 20s I used to be a bit beer snobbish. After few years I started to notice very little difference in the different brands and stopped giving a f***. If am at a party and you hand me a Pabst Blue Ribbon I'll be just as happy as if you give some craft beer I've never heard of.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Hipstes and craft beer go hand and hand. It's not cool once it goes mainstream.

In my mid 20s I used to be a bit beer snobbish. After few years I started to notice very little difference in the different brands and stopped giving a f***. If am at a party and you hand me a Pabst Blue Ribbon I'll be just as happy as if you give some craft beer I've never heard of.
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I'm not a hipster nor am I in my 20's.....I do however,have a pallette that can differentiate between good and ok beer.
 
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BearCat204 said:
I'm not a hipster nor am I in my 20's.....I do however,have a pallette that can differentiate between good and ok beer.
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That's highly subjective. What's good to you might not be to someone else but that doesn't make what you like necessarily better.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Hipstes and craft beer go hand and hand. It's not cool once it goes mainstream.

In my mid 20s I used to be a bit beer snobbish. After few years I started to notice very little difference in the different brands and stopped giving a f***. If am at a party and you hand me a Pabst Blue Ribbon I'll be just as happy as if you give some craft beer I've never heard of.
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True
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Hipstes and craft beer go hand and hand. It's not cool once it goes mainstream.

In my mid 20s I used to be a bit beer snobbish. After few years I started to notice very little difference in the different brands and stopped giving a f***. If am at a party and you hand me a Pabst Blue Ribbon I'll be just as happy as if you give some craft beer I've never heard of.
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Hipsters and craft beer might go hand in hand but it doesn't mean that everyone that likes craft beer is a hipster. Just like if you like Bud Light it doesn't mean you are a mullet havin', Nascar lovin' redneck. Some people prefer a different taste to their beer. I started out with Bud and my tastes have changed the older I have gotten. Right now I like IPA's over any other beer. In six months my tastes might change again and I might like something different.

:hi:

For the record... I love PBR.
 
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Bigurnge said:
That's highly subjective. What's good to you might not be to someone else but that doesn't make what you like necessarily better.
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I'm sure you can find one person that likes Applebee's Bourbon Street Steak over Ruth Chris Filet Mignon. But most people would pick the filet.

Your argument was that because one product has greater sales it must be better and that's just not true. Otherwise we could definitively say Applebee's has better steaks, McDonald's has the better hamburgers and Little Caesar's has the best pizza.

McDonald doesn't sell a lot of hamburgers because they're great. They sell a lot because they are convenient, cheap, recognizable and not terrible. The same with most major beer companies. The product is cheap, easily purchased, has brand recognition, will get you drunk just as quickly as any other product and tastes better than malt liquor.
 
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Bigurnge said:
Advertising may get you to try something but it doesn't do anything after that. After you try something you either like it or you don't.
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You underestimate the power of marketing. There are a lot of successful average products because of marketing.
 
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tri_vol said:
You underestimate the power of marketing. There are a lot of successful average products because of marketing.
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The same can be said about products that people feel give them a touch of self righteous smugness.
 
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Hopvol said:
That's because they spend millions on advertisement and have dupped many people into believing they make a quality product. Ever wonder why they and some other crap beer companies insist their beer should be drank ice cold? Because cold numbs the taste buds. If you want to know what your beer really tastes like drink it at a warmer temperature. I keep my kegerator at around 42 degrees but I can drink any quality craft beer or any beer I make at room temperature no problem. In fact, some beers I prefer at or near room temperature. Now, if you don't care about any of that and just want a cheap drunk then bud might be the way to go.
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Yeah, but, "boy I could really go for a room-temperature one" just doesn't roll off the tongue very well.

By the way, any of you that are familiar with Strong Bad Emails, go check out the one called "Property of Ones". It will give you a good laugh on this subject. In fact, I'll just link it right here: Tandy 400: Still Bloke.
 
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Bigurnge said:
The same can be said about products that people feel give them a touch of self righteous smugness.
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It’s a tough subject to discuss with a bud light drinker. There’s almost no way for craft beer guy to not sound like a beer snob. Like I said, drink what makes you happy but again, the quality difference between craft beer and bud/miller/coors is undeniable.
 
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Chuckie said:
Yeah, but, "boy I could really go for a room-temperature one" just doesn't roll off the tongue very well.

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Lol, that is true. Now if I just got done cutting the grass Im not reaching for a 12% imperial stout at cellar temperature. It all depends on what Im doing and what Im in the mood for.
 
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Hopvol said:
It’s a tough subject to discuss with a bud light drinker. There’s almost no way for craft beer guy to not sound like a beer snob. Like I said, drink what makes you happy but again, the quality difference between craft beer and bud/miller/coors is undeniable.
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Again quality is subjective when it comes to taste. Livermush could be made from the finest pig "parts" and corn meal and I'm still not eating it or gonna think it's better than bologna. He'll use caviar vs Bologna as an example. I don't think I could fathom the smugness or controversy if someone went to Ruth's Chris and ordered a well done filet vs someone who got a medium rare steak at Applebee's.
 
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Bigurnge said:
Again quality is subjective when it comes to taste. Livermush could be made from the finest pig "parts" and corn meal and I'm still not eating it or gonna think it's better than bologna. He'll use caviar vs Bologna as an example. I don't think I could fathom the smugness or controversy if someone went to Ruth's Chris and ordered a well done filet vs someone who got a medium rare steak at Applebee's.
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Here’s what I mean when I say quality ingredients. A quality craft beer company will use only the finest roasted malts, hops, they will use spices from around the world while bud uses rice and chemicals. You wouldn’t believe some of the things the big beer companies put in their beer to cut costs. Things they don’t even have to tell you is in their beer because beer falls under the ATF not the FDA. Some even use colorings that are known carcinogens rather than using roasted malts to add color. The big beer company is only worried about the bottom line. They want to mass produce as cheap as possible and spend their money on marketing. The craft brewer takes the total opposite approach, his target customer is willing to pay a premium price for quality. So even if the average consumer cant tell the quality difference, there is a huge difference.
 
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Bigurnge said:
The same can be said about products that people feel give them a touch of self righteous smugness.
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I'll be the first to admit that there is a lot off craft beer that is crap. My point is just because a lot of people buy a product doesn't mean isn't the best. Actually the opposite is generally true. Usually the most popular is or the biggest rarely the best.
 
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Bigurnge said:
If it was a craft beer before why wouldn't it be because they started making in mass quantities? Is that part of the criteria for craft drinkers to stamp their stigma of approval? "Can't be mass produced". Most people Americans don't prefer an overbearing, malty, hoppy, beer especially if you're gonna drink more than one.
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fyp

The average Murican consumer is fat and happy with a Bud Light/Natty Lite.
 
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Bigurnge said:
That's based on your taste buds or whatever criteria you use to choose a beer. Sales would also probably refute that but you can always find some kind of reason to justify why you like what you like. I however doubt a company that offered a great product with a chance to make more money would choose not to simply to maintain a label and limited customer base.
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Sales /= better product
 
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Bigurnge said:
Advertising may get you to try something but it doesn't do anything after that. After you try something you either like it or you don't.
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Craft beers are what they call an acquired taste. Once you put your big boy britches on and drink a real beer, we may let you sit at the big man table.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Craft beers are what they call an acquired taste. Once you put your big boy britches on and drink a real beer, we may let you sit at the big man table.
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I'd rather not aquire a taste to sit with a few yuppies that think they're 8$ beer makes them cool. I'm cool drinking whatever I want being who I am. Not had any issues yet from anybody.
 
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Bigurnge said:
I'd rather not aquire a taste to sit with a few yuppies that think they're 8$ beer makes them cool. I'm cool drinking whatever I want being who I am. Not had any issues yet from anybody.
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You're going to the mattresses over commercial, chemically processed Bud Light?
 
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Well since it seems we have some beer experts in here, I have a question: Are all IPA's really bitter or is that just what I've ran into?
 
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MockingVol said:
Well since it seems we have some beer experts in here, I have a question: Are all IPA's really bitter or is that just what I've ran into?
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No they are not. The amount of bitterness comes from the hop variety (there are literally hundreds) and when the hops are added. Early hop additions, meaning hops added early in the boil give more bitterness where late hop additions will give a aroma and a different flavor depending on the hop variety. It could be anywhere from a pine like flavor to tropical fruit. IPAs, especially American ones will have more hop flavor but they aren't all bitter.
 
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