Bush has nearly doubled the National Debt

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rjd970 said:
Rates will inevitably have to come back up. What do you think the chances are the 30 year treasury will go north of 6%?
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very high. it was well over 6% for most of the 70s, 80s, and 90s. it's not going to happen for a while though. well into the 2010s.
 
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oklavol said:
The only reason you hear is whatever supports the Republican party.
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No, I criticize those who deserve it in both parties. That is why I say government has failed us. The main reason I believe the republican party has failed me is because they have gone too far away from conservative principles. Even if there were true conservatives in power many of them would still be in need of criticism every now and then.
 
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KB5252 said:
No, I criticize those who deserve it in both parties. That is why I say government has failed us. The main reason I believe the republican party has failed me is because they have gone too far away from conservative principles. Even if there were true conservatives in power many of them would still be in need of criticism every now and then.
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You need to go back and read most of your posts in the last month, you sound more like a Bush apologist then anything.
 
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oklavol said:
You need to go back and read most of your posts in the last month, you sound more like a Bush apologist then anything.
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It's a matter of perspective - so many of your posts blame Bush for everything and if anyone suggests some other party might have played a role you claim they are an apologist/defender etc. Could it be your views are a bit extreme?
 
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volinbham said:
It's a matter of perspective - so many of your posts blame Bush for everything and if anyone suggests some other party might have played a role you claim they are an apologist/defender etc. Could it be your views are a bit extreme?
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How dare you question okvol!
 
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volinbham said:
It's a matter of perspective - so many of your posts blame Bush for everything and if anyone suggests some other party might have played a role you claim they are an apologist/defender etc. Could it be your views are a bit extreme?
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I've said numerous times I voted for Bush.
 
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oklavol said:
I've said numerous times I voted for Bush.
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Not my point. For example, in the thread about the mortgage crisis - you labeled any suggestion that Dems in Congress had a role as "Bush apologist". Clearly, an objective view of the situation sees blame across many from both parties but your premise was that it was W's alone. That's why I say your views can be extreme.
 
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volinbham said:
Not my point. For example, in the thread about the mortgage crisis - you labeled any suggestion that Dems in Congress had a role as "Bush apologist". Clearly, an objective view of the situation sees blame across many from both parties but your premise was that it was W's alone. That's why I say your views can be extreme.
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I don't think a minority party in Congress is going to drive the passage of any legislation, they simply don't have the votes to do that.

Furthermore a Democratic U.S. Represenative, who is most famous for running a prostitution ring out of his home, is not going to be the leader of any significant legislation. He's a joke, if he was from any other state he would have been voted out years ago.

Bush appointed the head of the Fed, the FDIC, and campaigned on increasing home ownership throughout his relection. He even fired the guy who headed up the watch agency for Freddie and Fannie for writing a report and publicly speaking on his fear that Fannie and Freddie were in trouble. The signs were there Bush ignored them.
 
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oklavol said:
I don't think a minority party in Congress is going to drive the passage of any legislation, they simply don't have the votes to do that.
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The rules of the Senate say otherwise.
 
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oklavol said:
I don't think a minority party in Congress is going to drive the passage of any legislation, they simply don't have the votes to do that.

Furthermore a Democratic U.S. Represenative, who is most famous for running a prostitution ring out of his home, is not going to be the leader of any significant legislation. He's a joke, if he was from any other state he would have been voted out years ago.

Bush appointed the head of the Fed, the FDIC, and campaigned on increasing home ownership throughout his relection. He even fired the guy who headed up the watch agency for Freddie and Fannie for writing a report and publicly speaking on his fear that Fannie and Freddie were in trouble. The signs were there Bush ignored them.
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Thank you for proving my point - you refuse to acknowledge any role in the mess other than Bush's.
 
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volinbham said:
Thank you for proving my point - you refuse to acknowledge any role in the mess other than Bush's.
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You don't the blame the person running the government, the person who is the sitting President for what happened during his administration, and you call me biased?
 
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I was actually in Plains, GA at Jimmy Carter's church yesterday. I felt an uncontrollable urge to throw my wallet in a trash can and appease someone.
 
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GAVol said:
The rules of the Senate say otherwise.
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You really blame democrats for legislation passed when the Republicans had a clear majority in both the House and Senate? And you call me biased?
 
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GAVol said:
I was actually in Plains, GA at Jimmy Carter's church yesterday. I felt an uncontrollable urge to throw my wallet in a trash can and appease someone.
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I'm going to rain on your parade, but Bush was a worse President then Carter.
 
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volinbham said:
Thank you for proving my point - you refuse to acknowledge any role in the mess other than Bush's.
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Funny isn't it though, that everything that happened during Carter administration is his fault and no one elses........
 
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oklavol said:
You really blame democrats for legislation passed when the Republicans had a clear majority in both the House and Senate? And you call me biased?
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Nope . . . Just pointing out that the magic number in the Senate is 60; not a simple majority.
 
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