Butch Jones: Xs and Os

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g8terh8ter_eric said:
When you dropoff to Sun Belt level talent in your second team on defense, and somewhat on offense, it's going to show up sooner or later against a foe like USA.
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USA has only been playing big boy football for 5 years. UT's talent is def better than theirs but I have not seen any stellar coaching on our sidelines.
 
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VolFootballlover said:
lol what? your defending The coach by saying South Alabama has much better Talent than our 2nd and 3 rd stringers and then you say " Let me know if you feel the same way after October" WTH . Dude, Wake up. We don't have a team of SEC players . But we our Not full of sun belt players either! I don't care who you are. I have followed this teams recruiting for 20 years . It has fallen off but not one time since the begining of time has it been Sun Belt Level!
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Our roster will be exposed in October, but keep believing that our backups are somehow SEC level talent.

Did you watch the Troy game last year, even when we had the offense we did? We had pretty much the same defense as well. Outside of our 1's, we have ZERO depth. If you can't see it, I don't know what else to tell you. There is a reason they are trying to redshirt people for next season, just so they can get people to learn the system and stay healthy.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Our roster will be exposed in October, but keep believing that our backups are somehow SEC level talent.

Did you watch the Troy game last year, even when we had the offense we did? We had pretty much the same defense as well. Outside of our 1's, we have ZERO depth. If you can't see it, I don't know what else to tell you. There is a reason they are trying to redshirt people for next season, just so they can get people to learn the system and stay healthy.
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You give me Saban and Our 2nd Stringers and we beat the living hell outa South Alabama! If not we better cancel next season! Read my post and stop with the exscuses! "I know we are not loaded with SEC talent .It's not Sun Belt Talent though" !
 
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IN Jed said:
I can give CBJ the benefit of the doubt that he's instituting his scheme w/out his players. However, perhaps someone can clarify why he is not giving reps to 1 or both of the future QBs to speed up the process which would only benefit next year. Any young QB who can't handle being thrown to the wolves against S. Alabama doesn't have what it takes period.
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yes
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Our roster will be exposed in October, but keep believing that our backups are somehow SEC level talent.

Did you watch the Troy game last year, even when we had the offense we did? We had pretty much the same defense as well. Outside of our 1's, we have ZERO depth. If you can't see it, I don't know what else to tell you. There is a reason they are trying to redshirt people for next season, just so they can get people to learn the system and stay healthy.
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He is just saying our second stringers avg over a 1* rated players. Usa doesnt even rate 1* in their 2 deep. Barely the whole starting team avg would be 1*.
 
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VolFootballlover said:
You give me Saban and Our 2nd Stringers and we beat the living hell outa South Alabama! If not we better cancel next season! Read my post and stop with the exscuses! "I know we are not loaded with SEC talent .It's not Sun Belt Talent though" !
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Why do you think its a rebuilding project? We don't have the horses, and it's not going to happen next season either. Next season will be somewhat better looking that this one, but will end up with the same results.
 
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From Our position Coaches own Mouth " We have no clear cut 1's ,we play who ever has the best week" If our backups are as bad as you let on like then I guess they are all liars!
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Why do you think its a rebuilding project? We don't have the horses, and it's not going to happen next season either. Next season will be somewhat better looking that this one, but will end up with the same results.
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lol one thing every poster here knows . You can't rebuild for ever at some point your gona wanta live in that House Or atleast see some windows going in!
 
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deaconkane said:
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He is just saying our second stringers avg over a 1* rated players. Usa doesnt even rate 1* in their 2 deep. Barely the whole starting team avg would be 1*.
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Our depth is atrocious, period. It's much closer to Sun Belt talent, than it is SEC talent. If we put our 2nd team in all day yesterday, USA would run us.
 
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I don't blame the players as much as I blame the coaches for the meltdown in the second half. No adjustments and our coaches got out coached.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Our depth is atrocious, period. It's much closer to Sun Belt talent, than it is SEC talent. If we put our 2nd team in all day yesterday, USA would run us.
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Tennessee in the last 5 plus years probably had the worst administration in college football. Mike Hamilton and the powers that be should find a good beach and run their head's so far in the sand they'd swear they were in China..What a crock of shat they served up to the fans..
 
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give_him 6 said:
I don't blame the players as much as I blame the coaches for the meltdown in the second half. No adjustments and our coaches got out coached.
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no it's our players fault. We have the Only freshman in america that can't play at a high level achording to some. Those players we beat SC,Georgia,Vandy,Kentucky,Florida,LSU for are not SEC quality. But one thing you'll never here some around here say is "The Coaches are responsible for how we play on Saturday "
 
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Cartervol said:
Tennessee in the last 5 plus years probably had the worst administration in college football. Mike Hamilton and the powers that be should find a good beach and run their head's so far in the sand they'd swear they were in China..What a crock of shat they served up to the fans..
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It sure tasted like shat too.
 
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VolFootballlover said:
no it's our players fault. We have the Only freshman in america that can't play at a high level achording to some. Those players we beat SC,Georgia,Vandy,Kentucky,Florida,LSU for are not SEC quality. But one thing you'll never here some around here say is "The Coaches are responsible for how we play on Saturday "
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It's all tied in together. There is some blame the coaches can take for yesterday.
 
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VolFootballlover said:
Worley is a great great Kid, and I honestly believe he would have looked better with a Power running game ( under center handing off to a HB & fb and doing some play action with this o-line) I don't think this silly looking offense would look much better with out him. Him running the read option looks as silly as me Coaching the Vols.
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This ^^

playaction made Crompton look good..(kind of)
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
5 games in, what have yall seen philosophically that you either are excited about or has you scratching your head?

1. Color me not excited with the idea that for the next four seasons we are going to have to watch our RBs try to turn the corner on an outside sweep play 25 times a game. This. Will. Not. Ever. Work. Against. SEC. Teams.

I'm sure it was great for him in the big east, but there is too much speed to ever consistently turn the corner in this league. The sooner TBJ gets this through his Spike's Dad from Little Giants haircut head the better.

With the RBs and OLine we have on this roster, it is nonsensical that we do not try to pound the ball up the middle. Top Button Jones et al (his staff) are clearly not willing to adjust their Big East system to the SEC game.

2. Why the heck are we running zone blitzes that require DEs like Jordan Williams to drop into coverage!? This team doesn't even have linebackers that can maintain man coverage on rbs/TEs, so why in the world would Top Button Jones et al run a zone blitz scheme that pits a 5.0 Forty DE against a RB!? This isn't the NFL and it sure as spit isn't an NFL roster. Get back to basics! Stop trying to be cute with exotic blitz schemes, for this is a big reason why we are giving up big plays...we get ourselves in situations where a huge mismatch is blatantly obvious to the opposing QB.

I've seen nothing through 5 games, philosophically speaking, that makes me think that even with quality talent back on the Hill we would be in any different position than we are now. Someone in another thread mentioned that the similarities they see with Top Button Jones are that of when Rich Rod went to Michigan and refused to adjust his system to the tougher league/competition level and his roster.... I fear TBJ may be the poor man's version of the same thing.
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Hey Negavol or troll whatever the case may be! USC has an opening that could obviously use your positive attitude, expertise, and motivational skills. A wise person once said you can either be part of the solution or part of the problem. You sir are the type of person positive Vol fans want to stay away from. I think four championships in six years, in any conference, speaks for itself.
 
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GoVols15 said:
Hey Negavol or troll whatever the case may be! USC has an opening that could obviously use your positive attitude, expertise, and motivational skills. A wise person once said you can either be part of the solution or part of the problem. You sir are the type of person positive Vol fans want to stay away from. I think four championships in six years, in any conference, speaks for itself.
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Lulz.
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#73
#73
I know this isnt much use but I love butches playbook on ncaa14 there is SOO meany great plays we just dont use. one is a run to the middle of the field. Maybe he just doesnt trust worley throwing the ball. I dont blame him eather for not trusting him. I cring everytime he throws the ball myself
 
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ballou1024 said:
We have a vanilla offense because we have a vanilla quarterback.
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Exlplain to me why we tried to pass it at midfield against FL when it was 3rd and 33. Also, explain to me why we tried another pass when it was 3rd and 7 with 5 min left in the half when absolutely nothing had been done in the passing game.

CBJ cannot continue to coach the way he is coaching with this team and expect to beat a top tier SEC school.

I am not wanting to bring back Fulmer, although a good coach in his time, I do hope CPF explained small ball to him and how it can win in the SEC.

Not always pretty but much better than what we currently are seeing.
 
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