BYU/Washington

#51
#51
GAVol said:
I just saw the play on a wide angle replay. That type of celebration is going to get flagged every single time. He threw that ball 30 feet into the air.
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Is there a certain official repsonsible for calling this penalty? If not, how many officials threw flags?
 
#54
#54
Mrs.BigOrangeNation said:
I wonder...If the extra point was good, would there still be complaints about the ref's call like there are now?
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Mark May and Lou Holtz just said it again "It determined the outcome of the game."

These guys are being complete morons. Look at the replay of the PAT that got blocked. It was a complete jailbreak. The distance of the PAT didn't matter.
 
#55
#55
If that got a flag, I bet 90% of touchdowns should. How many players hand the ball to the ref or just put it down? What if Washington had planned on going for 2 instead of the FG for overtime? The penalty killed that. Lame rule that needs to be clarified.
 
#56
#56
superdave1984 said:
How many players hand the ball to the ref or just put it down?
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alot more than you think. it's one thing to score, drop the ball and high five your team mates or even do the jumping high five, but it's another to chuck the football 30 feet in the air
 
#57
#57
GAVol said:
Mark May and Lou Holtz just said it again "It determined the outcome of the game."

These guys are being complete morons. Look at the replay of the PAT that got blocked. It was a complete jailbreak. The distance of the PAT didn't matter.
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Do the BYU players sell out on a regular XP though. They might loaf that play and go into OT.
 
#58
#58
GAVol said:
Mark May and Lou Holtz just said it again "It determined the outcome of the game."

These guys are being complete morons. Look at the replay of the PAT that got blocked. It was a complete jailbreak. The distance of the PAT didn't matter.
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While I hate the penalty, I kind of agree. That PAT wasn't going anywhere.
 
#59
#59
chavisut said:
Do the BYU players sell out on a regular XP though. They might loaf that play and go into OT.
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when it's deciding wither you win or lose a game with 2 seconds left, I'd bet my last dollar they'd be going all out regardless where the PAT was
 
#60
#60
sickemsmokey10 said:
alot more than you think. it's one thing to score, drop the ball and high five your team mates or even do the jumping high five, but it's another to chuck the football 30 feet in the air
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I've been watching the highlights and I have yet to see it.
 
#61
#61
sickemsmokey10 said:
when it's deciding wither you win or lose a game with 2 seconds left, I'd bet my last dollar they'd be going all out regardless where the PAT was
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Probably so. I still don't think you can say with 100% certainty that they would block the XP.
 
#63
#63
sickemsmokey10 said:
I see it quite a bit. Another question is, how many times do you see a guy score a TD and sling the ball 30 feet in the air?
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The rule says to hand it to the ref or place it down near where the ball is ruled dead. On a TD the ball is dead at the spot where it crosses the goal line. So carrying the ball to the back of the end zone or to the other side is, by rule, worthy of a flag. It's a dumb rule.

EDIT: Just saw a Penn State player toss the ball to the ref.
 
#65
#65
sickemsmokey10 said:
and you can't say he would have made it. just one of those things we'll never know
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No doubt. Most likely it would have been blocked. You never know though, if one player takes the play off, maybe BYU doesn't bust through the line and get a piece of it.
 
#66
#66
chavisut said:
No doubt. Most likely it would have been blocked. You never know though, if one player takes the play off, maybe BYU doesn't bust through the line and get a piece of it.
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and maybe it's a bad snap and the hold is fumbled, Washington picks it up and takes it in for 2 :yes:
 
#67
#67
Regardless of whether the PAT would have been blocked or not, this rule is an absolute disgrace. The whole spirit of the new rules is to keep players from taunting the other team, and what happened in this game clearly was not taunting. The head of officials who came on College Football Final pretty much backed up the official, which is to be expected, but to me he should have at least acknowledged the way the official enforced the rule in the game was outside the spirit of the rule. There has to be some leniency in the rules to allow 18-21 year olds playing a game to be human.
 
#68
#68
bleedorange0037 said:
Regardless of whether the PAT would have been blocked or not, this rule is an absolute disgrace. The whole spirit of the new rules is to keep players from taunting the other team, and what happened in this game clearly was not taunting. The head of officials who came on College Football Final pretty much backed up the official, which is to be expected, but to me he should have at least acknowledged the way the official enforced the rule in the game was outside the spirit of the rule. There has to be some leniency in the rules to allow 18-21 year olds playing a game to be human.
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I agree with you man, Locker was probably so excited he didn't even know what he was doing. Just sad ending to a great football game
 
#69
#69
It has just kind of annoyed me how the officials can't at least admit they screwed this one up. That's to be expected from time to time, but at least if they admit there was a problem then in the future they will be able to correct it. However, if they continue to act like this situation was handled properly, then this is just going to happen again sooner of later.
 
#70
#70
It's just unreal how inconsistent the call that was made is...
I saw a play last week where a guy got a sack and ran twenty yards thumping his chest, but that ref didn't throw a flag he just yelled at the kid to run to the sideline.

Tonight, florida got a big sack near the end on Marve and the played got up did all kinds of crazy stuff the whole team had a celebration and jumped on him goin wild.. No call at all.

Bugs me.
 
#71
#71
I think what everyone is fogetting is that even though it was a terrible call....Washington still had a chance to tie the game up.
 
#72
#72
Yes. you can't necessarily say they wouldn't of blocked it anyway.. I feel bad for willingham that would've been huge for him.
 
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