Cal @ Oregon

#26
#26
If Oregon will wear these uniforms the rest of the year, I'll stop making fun of them.

They actually wore football uniforms that look like football uniforms. No wings, no steel tire marks or whatever those things were, the numbers weren't a really weird font....I'm actually a bit speechless.
 
#27
#27
droski said:
oregon's defense and offense both suck. i'll be very disapointed if cal doesnt' win easily. kevin riley is going to go nuts on that duck defense.
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So how disappointed are ya? Do we need to put you on suicide watch?
 
#29
#29
USC's going to end up with the division and rose bowl again; just like i said in that other thread....just watch
 
#30
#30
Hmmmm, turns out Oregon was wearing "throwback" uniforms.

Only in Oregon is 10 years ago "throwback". I guess with all the uniforms changes they've had since then, 10 years is a long time.
 
#31
#31
droski said:
oregon's defense and offense both suck. i'll be very disapointed if cal doesnt' win easily. kevin riley is going to go nuts on that duck defense.
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Here is the respect that Cal deserves:

AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaah Hah Hah Hah Hah HAAAAAaaaaa!

Owned.
 
#32
#32
WOW.....Cal got HOUSED. How can you basically not even show up for one of your biggest games of the year? Oregon has to be the favorite in the P10 now right, or at least the undisputed #2 behind SC. SC looks like a totally different team with Barkley back there. They will be tough to beat again.
 
#33
#33
Just got home. Face is sunburnt to all hell.

1. Lots of typical Pac-10 fans today... Homerism is expected. Walking around tailgates hearing stuff like "SEC is overrated." My response: "Yes, and yet still the best conference around."
2. I really, really hope Duck fans en masse don't start expecting a Rose Bowl now. Oregon played out of their mind. Had a good home field (my ears are still ringing -- a lot) and Cal couldn't have played worse... I'll call this one more of a Cal loss than an Oregon win. IMO Ducks should be happy with a Holiday Bowl appearance. They still have one of the most inexperienced o-lines in college ball.
3. All the Cal fans were exceptionally graceful. I didn't see one leave Autzen until after the game was over, they all congratulated the Duck fans around them. Very classy.
 
#34
#34
BuckeyeVols said:
WOW.....Cal got HOUSED. How can you basically not even show up for one of your biggest games of the year? Oregon has to be the favorite in the P10 now right, or at least the undisputed #2 behind SC. SC looks like a totally different team with Barkley back there. They will be tough to beat again.
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No. As evidenced today, USC's loss to Washington was their typical inexplicable loss to a middle of the road Pac-10 team. They will still win the conference title outright, and beat Ohio State again in the Rose Bowl, but by a lot more this time. Oregon played awesome today, but played completely out of their minds. They are not that talented.
 
#35
#35
droski said:
oregon's defense and offense both suck. i'll be very disapointed if cal doesnt' win easily. kevin riley is going to go nuts on that duck defense.
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Woo! I'm glad you are not my broker Droski with misreads like that.
 
#37
#37
milohimself said:
1. Lots of typical Pac-10 fans today... Homerism is expected. Walking around tailgates hearing stuff like "SEC is overrated." My response: "Yes, and yet still the best conference around."
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Got the same reaction when I went to Penn State vs ND two years ago. One guy sought me out when I was just minding my own business trying to buy a hot dog. He said that the Big Ten was better. To which I replied, "Appalachian State". That was the year Michigan lost their opener.
 
#38
#38
milohimself said:
Just got home. Face is sunburnt to all hell.

1. Lots of typical Pac-10 fans today... Homerism is expected. Walking around tailgates hearing stuff like "SEC is overrated." My response: "Yes, and yet still the best conference around."
2. I really, really hope Duck fans en masse don't start expecting a Rose Bowl now. Oregon played out of their mind. Had a good home field (my ears are still ringing -- a lot) and Cal couldn't have played worse... I'll call this one more of a Cal loss than an Oregon win. IMO Ducks should be happy with a Holiday Bowl appearance. They still have one of the most inexperienced o-lines in college ball.
3. All the Cal fans were exceptionally graceful. I didn't see one leave Autzen until after the game was over, they all congratulated the Duck fans around them. Very classy.
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1. With Georgia, LSU, Tennessee and Ole Miss struggling or losing to teams that they weren't expected to, I believe that those fans you are referring to have a valid point.

2. Lets examine the facts. Cal comes into the game as the second most productive offense in the nation averaging 500 yards per game. Oregon's D holds them to 200 yards and 3 points. Oregon's offense puts up 524 yards and 42 points, including 236 yards on the ground with a freshman running back and Masoli completing 21 of 25. Yet, that was "more of a Cal loss" and their o-line is too inexperienced to be any good?

Duck fans en masse have very good reason to start expecting a Rose Bowl now. If Cal beats USC next week, even if Oregon lost to USC they would still be in position to go since they could beat everyone else on their schedule playing only half as well as they did yesterday and USC would have 2 losses.

3. Graceful? More like there was nothing they could possibly say that wouldn't sound stupid in the face of that loss. I don't think you've been to enough Cal Oregon games to know what kind of talk normally takes place.

milohimself said:
No. As evidenced today, USC's loss to Washington was their typical inexplicable loss to a middle of the road Pac-10 team. They will still win the conference title outright, and beat Ohio State again in the Rose Bowl, but by a lot more this time. Oregon played awesome today, but played completely out of their minds. They are not that talented.
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It doesn't take talent to play well? No talent necessary to hold one of the nations most productive offenses to 3 points?

As noted, if Cal beats USC, which I think most would agree that they have a good shot at, given USC's struggles offensively against Ohio State and Washington (who got owned by Stanford last night), Oregon could lose to USC and still be in good position to win the conference.

IPorange said:
Classy post. :ermm:
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Thank you. I agree. If fans want to insult and talk smack about teams that they play, they have to be prepared to take the heat when it doesn't turn out as they planned. If they don't want to be disrespected, they should show some respect themselves to begin with.
 
#39
#39
If Oregon really was as talented as they looked yesterday, they would have won handily at Boise State. Be happy with a Holiday Bowl appearance, that's the best you will get. USC still has far and away the most talent in the Pac-10. It will prevail. If Barkley is healthy, USC should win at both Cal and Oregon.
 
#40
#40
milohimself said:
If Oregon really was as talented as they looked yesterday, they would have won handily at Boise State. Be happy with a Holiday Bowl appearance, that's the best you will get. USC still has far and away the most talent in the Pac-10. It will prevail. If Barkley is healthy, USC should win at both Cal and Oregon.
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By your logic, Tennessee has no talent because they haven't played very well and they will not progress to being any better than they are now with more experience, coaching changes, confidence, etc. No reason to watch any more games until they cycle in all new players that have talent.

You pointed it out yourself, Oregon's o-line didn't have much experience. So, it shouldn't be surprising that they wouldn't have played as well at BSU but are coming together as a unit after some game experience. Teams with a lot of talent are sometimes out of sync. Teams with a lot of talent sometimes get things in sync and start playing well. Happens all the time and is why we watch the games.

In any event, it's fun to read between the lines here and learn that you picked the wrong team to side with yesterday and got your expectations smoked too. :D

Keep doubting the Ducks. No sweat off my back.
 
#41
#41
I cheered for Oregon yesterday. Although I picked Cal to win a close one. But half the fans I talked to yesterday also expected to lose. And I do think Oregon is perfectly capable of making the Holiday Bowl, which would be a successful season for your team. The Pac-10 landscape is still USC, Cal and Oregon to a lesser extent, and Oregon State if they can get decent QB play from Moevao.

Bottom line, yesterday was this: Oregon proving they are better than they looked at Boise (they still played far beyond their ability), and Tedford had what may go down as the worst coaching performance of his career. If you think UO's inexperienced offensive line will now turn out a good performance every game, you're out of your mind. They will have at least one or two let-down games, which will cause Kelly to have to pull Dickson in for added pass-blocking, leaving the Ducks with no real receiving threats. They go one-dimensional and the running game gets stuffed with poor blocking. Mark it down, that will happen in at least one or two more games this year.
 
#42
#42
Oregon State? Who just lost to Arizona. Ok... Cal and USC both have a conference loss. Oregon does not. You can speculate about what you think will happen. But, the fact remains that, at this point in time, Oregon controls it's destiny in the Rose Bowl hunt and the two teams you put above them do not. They need other teams to lose in order for them to get there.

If Oregon squeaked out a win in questionable fashion as they did against Purdue and Utah, I might agree with your point. However, they completely dominated the 6th ranked team in the nation. If that isn't an indication that a team is progressing, I don't know what other evidence would be. It's possible that the o-line could falter in some future game. However, that is your speculative doubt. There is just as much reason to believe that they won't falter as there is to believe that they will.

As far as leaving Dickson on the line for pass blocking, I suppose anything is possible. However, in the history of Chip Kelly designing offensive schemes at Oregon, I have never seen him keep tight ends at the line for more than a few plays, under any circumstances. Kind of goes against the entire concept of the spread-to-run offense. Besides that, Dickson had a great game but passes were spread around to others as well. He's not the entire passing game.
 
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#43
#43
wheaton4prez said:
By your logic, Tennessee has no talent because they haven't played very well and they will not progress to being any better than they are now with more experience, coaching changes, confidence, etc. No reason to watch any more games until they cycle in all new players that have talent.

You pointed it out yourself, Oregon's o-line didn't have much experience. So, it shouldn't be surprising that they wouldn't have played as well at BSU but are coming together as a unit after some game experience. Teams with a lot of talent are sometimes out of sync. Teams with a lot of talent sometimes get things in sync and start playing well. Happens all the time and is why we watch the games.

In any event, it's fun to read between the lines here and learn that you picked the wrong team to side with yesterday and got your expectations smoked too. :D

Keep doubting the Ducks. No sweat off my back.
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Keep disappearing until your Ducks actually win a game. No sweat off our backs. We can only hope Oregon loses out this year so we don't have to see you around.
 
#44
#44
the.one.the.only said:
Keep disappearing until your Ducks actually win a game. No sweat off our backs. We can only hope Oregon loses out this year so we don't have to see you around.
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I often marvel at how upset some people get at having to see a post by someone on the internet. I guess I just don't understand what it's like to have such sensitive emotions.
 
#45
#45
Not upset, just don't want to read your obviously warped opinions on anything Oregon. Would like to hear Oregon's side of the story, but you take homerism to the max. Have fun marveling.
 
#46
#46
What have I written that is warped in any unusual way?

Oregon dominated a highly ranked Cal team. Is there anything warped about believing that it's a strong statement and that it puts Oregon in great position to contend for the conference title?

Suppose UT beat Florida convincingly. Would you not think that was a good sign? How would you react if someone came along and claimed that it didn't mean much and that UT simply played above their ability?

I think that what you want is someone to pretend that they are communicating Oregon's side of the story but they are really SEC Vol fans.
 
#47
#47
wheaton4prez said:
Oregon State? Who just lost to Arizona. Ok... Cal and USC both have a conference loss. Oregon does not. You can speculate about what you think will happen. But, the fact remains that, at this point in time, Oregon controls it's destiny in the Rose Bowl hunt and the two teams you put above them do not. They need other teams to lose in order for them to get there.

If Oregon squeaked out a win in questionable fashion as they did against Purdue and Utah, I might agree with your point. However, they completely dominated the 6th ranked team in the nation. If that isn't an indication that a team is progressing, I don't know what other evidence would be. It's possible that the o-line could falter in some future game. However, that is your speculative doubt. There is just as much reason to believe that they won't falter as there is to believe that they will.

As far as leaving Dickson on the line for pass blocking, I suppose anything is possible. However, in the history of Chip Kelly designing offensive schemes at Oregon, I have never seen him keep tight ends at the line for more than a few plays, under any circumstances. Kind of goes against the entire concept of the spread-to-run offense. Besides that, Dickson had a great game but passes were spread around to others as well. He's not the entire passing game.
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False. If USC wins out they will go to the Rose Bowl.
 
#50
#50
Amazingly great that Droski had to watch that game...

Also good for us that the Pac 10 seems to be a jumbled mess with no great teams.

USC, Oregon and Cal play Florida, Alabama and LSU.

Any way anyone sees them doing better than 1-2?
 
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