California bill to purge Christians from police

[Volgolfer1618]

California Bill Proposes Removing Cops Who Express Religious Or Conservative Beliefs

Under the guise of a broad hate speech. Not a surprise.

 

[McDad]

No chance it makes it into law or survives SCOTUS

 

[Wafflestomper]

California Bill Proposes Removing Cops Who Express Religious Or Conservative Beliefs

Under the guise of a broad hate speech. Not a surprise.

I'm pretty sure I'd be fired for going around work telling people that gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, or any number of other sensitive issues. I also don't go around work telling people I think their religious beliefs are ridiculous. The trick is to keep your opinions to yourself in a public setting.

If cops are outspoken about their lack of regard for minorities in their community how much trust are those people (or everyone else) going to have in their ability to enforce laws in an unbiased manner?

 

[McDad]

I'm pretty sure I'd be fired for going around work telling people that gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, or any number of other sensitive issues. I also don't go around work telling people I think their religious beliefs are ridiculous. The trick is to keep your opinions to yourself in a public setting.

If cops are outspoken about their lack of regard for minorities in their community how much trust are those people (or everyone else) going to have in their ability to enforce laws in an unbiased manner?

From EEOC.gov:
Yes. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employment discrimination based on religion. This includes refusing to accommodate an employee's sincerely held religious beliefs or practices unless the accommodation would impose an undue hardship (more than a minimal burden on operation of the business). A religious practice may be sincerely held by an individual even if newly adopted, not consistently observed, or different from the commonly followed tenets of the individual's religion

 

[Rickyvol77]

I'm pretty sure I'd be fired for going around work telling people that gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, or any number of other sensitive issues. I also don't go around work telling people I think their religious beliefs are ridiculous. The trick is to keep your opinions to yourself in a public setting.

If cops are outspoken about their lack of regard for minorities in their community how much trust are those people (or everyone else) going to have in their ability to enforce laws in an unbiased manner?

So Obama should be banned for public work because he once stated several times that gay marriage is against biblical beliefs?

 

[ETV]

California Bill Proposes Removing Cops Who Express Religious Or Conservative Beliefs

Under the guise of a broad hate speech. Not a surprise.

Brought to you by...

Ash Kalra

Molo Ram in the making.

 

[Septic]

A new bill introduced by California State Assembly Member Ash Kalra in San Jose would prohibit police officers from serving if they have used arbitrarily defined “hate speech” or are affiliated with a “hate group.”

The bill, known as the California Law Enforcement Accountability Reform Act (CLEAR Act), claims to combat “the infiltration of extremists in our law enforcement agencies” and would mandate a background check for all officers who have “exchanged racist and homophobic messages.”

The bill defines hate speech as “as advocating or supporting the denial of constitutional rights of, the genocide of, or violence towards, any group of persons based upon race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or disability.”

Equating the above with a targeting of conservatives and Christians is kind of hilarious. Porterhouse headline, rancid bologna article.

 

[utvolpj]

I thought they covered that when they put an upper limit on IQ to become a cop

 

[Septic]

I'm pretty sure I'd be fired for going around work telling people that gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, or any number of other sensitive issues. I also don't go around work telling people I think their religious beliefs are ridiculous. The trick is to keep your opinions to yourself in a public setting.

If cops are outspoken about their lack of regard for minorities in their community how much trust are those people (or everyone else) going to have in their ability to enforce laws in an unbiased manner?

Ginned up #fakenews to incite outrage in the low information crowd.

Not having a bigot for a cop seems like solid HR practice, especially when it's tax payers who have to pay for their stupidity.

This is common sense stuff, leave it to the "you know who's" to stretch this into butt hurt about religion.

 

[Septic]

I thought they covered that when they put an upper limit on IQ to become a cop

 

[Wafflestomper]

From EEOC.gov:
Yes. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employment discrimination based on religion. This includes refusing to accommodate an employee's sincerely held religious beliefs or practices unless the accommodation would impose an undue hardship (more than a minimal burden on operation of the business). A religious practice may be sincerely held by an individual even if newly adopted, not consistently observed, or different from the commonly followed tenets of the individual's religion

You can be a Christian and hold the belief that gays shouldn't be denied their constitutional right to marriage, or at least don't proselytize your beliefs if you do. You could still believe that gay marriage is immoral so long as you don't advocate for removing their rights. This is not a religious issue. From the article in the OP:

"The bill defines hate speech as 'as advocating or supporting the denial of constitutional rights of, the genocide of, or violence towards, any group of persons based upon race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or disability.'”

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

The goal is to turn state and local law enforcement into a federally controlled strict enforcement arm of the leftist commie regime and so far they’ve been successful just as they have transformed the military, FBI, DHS, etc. Historically it’s how all communist/socialist countries operate.

 

[utvolpj]

The bill defines hate speech as “as advocating or supporting the denial of constitutional rights of, the genocide of, or violence towards, any group of persons based upon race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or disability.”

Shouldn't that be a pretty low bar to clear? I know some posters in here would trip over it but most would be ok

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

So Obama should be banned for public work because he once stated several times that gay marriage is against biblical beliefs?

Thats just stating facts.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Of course that is not what the bill says.

 

[hog88]

I'm pretty sure I'd be fired for going around work telling people that gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, or any number of other sensitive issues. I also don't go around work telling people I think their religious beliefs are ridiculous. The trick is to keep your opinions to yourself in a public setting.

If cops are outspoken about their lack of regard for minorities in their community how much trust are those people (or everyone else) going to have in their ability to enforce laws in an unbiased manner?

Are you Muslim?

 

[Wafflestomper]

Are you Muslim?

No?

 

[hog88]

Of course that is not what the bill says.

True, it’s just an ill conceived and poorly written bill that if passed could allow religious persecution of LEO.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Thats just stating facts.

So is being against abortion for religious beliefs and i don't believe someone should be fired or not hired based on those beliefs unless it matters for THAT profession (i.e. church worker, etc)

 

[NorthDallas40]

If the morons pass this and it somehow isn’t rightly incinerated by the 9th circuit there is no way this clears SCOTUS. Just more stupid ill conceived legislation brought to you by progressive idiots.

 

[Wafflestomper]

True, it’s just an ill conceived and poorly written bill that if passed could allow religious persecution of LEO.

Not sure how prohibiting police officers from advocating or supporting the denial of someone's constitutional rights would constitute religious persecution. I don't recall there being anything about the U.S. Constitution in the Bible (or any other religious text, for that matter).

 

[hog88]

Not sure how prohibiting police officers from advocating or supporting the denial of someone's constitutional rights would constitute religious persecution. I don't recall there being anything about the U.S. Constitution in the Bible (or any other religious text, for that matter).

A devout Muslim couldn’t be a police officer if this bill passes.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Not sure how prohibiting police officers from advocating or supporting the denial of someone's constitutional rights would constitute religious persecution. I don't recall there being anything about the U.S. Constitution in the Bible (or any other religious text, for that matter).

Saying you will fire someone from a public position for posting a tweet 10 years ago saying "i don't agree with abortion" is 100% wrong and illegal and that's why the courts will not allow this BS to pass...not surprised that you are ok with it though

 

[Septic]

A devout Muslim couldn’t be a police officer if this bill passes.

You guys would be happy about that, no?

 

[McDad]

You can be a Christian and hold the belief that gays shouldn't be denied their constitutional right to marriage, or at least don't proselytize your beliefs if you do. You could still believe that gay marriage is immoral so long as you don't advocate for removing their rights. This is not a religious issue. From the article in the OP:

"The bill defines hate speech as 'as advocating or supporting the denial of constitutional rights of, the genocide of, or violence towards, any group of persons based upon race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or disability.'”

Everyone should be cynical and wary of what a politician defines in a bill and what the bill will actually do. Even if you are anti Christian or anti religion or pro gay, it doesn't matter because what the public is "sold" regarding a bill and what the bill is actually intended to do are not always the same.
Regardless, one would have to show cops who are Christian do not have the ability to separate their faith and their duties for this bill to have a snowballs chance to be passed, make it through appeals, and pass muster at SCOTUS. It's DOA.