California Golden Bears

#26
#26
(GAVol @ Apr 26 said:
Honestly, I don't think it's possible for us to go 5-7 or 6-6.
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If we lose to Cal, it's very possible for Tennessee to go 6-6.
 
#27
#27
Maybe . . . but I guess I it's just hard for me to believe that we can play that bad offensively and on special teams 2 years in a row.
 
#28
#28
(GAVol @ Apr 26 said:
Maybe . . . but I guess I it's just hard for me to believe that we can play that bad offensively and on special teams 2 years in a row.
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Cal is as overrated this year as Iowa was last year. A team that can't beat them at home is really going to struggle with Florida, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, and Arkansas.
 
#29
#29
(hatvol96 @ Apr 26 said:
Cal is as overrated this year as Iowa was last year. A team that can't beat them at home is really going to struggle with Florida, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, and Arkansas.
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And LSU.
 
#30
#30
I would not consider this a make or break game for the season. That being said, I also expected noticeable improvement in these areas:

Playcalling, including the speed with which those plays are brought to the huddle.

Continuity: I expect the team leaders to take over this summer, and show leadership in this first game

Overall discipline especially on special teams

It is a lot to ask of a first game, but I feel like the Vols and their coaching staff are starting the season with their backs against the wall. I also think it is quite possible that all of the above can be accomplished without a win on opening day.
 
#31
#31
cal is not a bad team , tedford is a good coach , the game will be good , but by the end of the 3rd qtr cal is going to be dead ... theres no way any player on that team is going to be prepared for the brutal heat . the vols will end up winning
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#32
#32
I was just saying you gotta break the slide and if you don't , bring on the nay sayers! As a matter of fact an ugly win like last years UAB game will not help matters! This is a statement game either We Are Back! or Here we go again!
 
#33
#33
I think the question begging to be asked is "What would be a satisfactory record this season."?
 
#34
#34
(utfantilidie @ Apr 26 said:
I think the question begging to be asked is "What would be a satisfactory record this season."?
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No, that dead horse has been beaten to death already. :banghead:
 
#35
#35
(utfantilidie @ Apr 26 said:
I think the question begging to be asked is "What would be a satisfactory record this season."?
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7-5 , i see atleast 6 teams UT could possibly lose to
 
#38
#38
The make or break game for UT is Florida.

It sets the tone for the SEC, UT is either the team everyone wants to beat or UT spends the rest of season hoping Florida loses twice in the SEC.
 
#40
#40
(volmanjr @ Apr 26 said:
A loss to Cal would be more like a stubbed toe , not a break...painful but we would survive. That being said I think will we send the bears back to the west coast sucking orange.
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Agreed. Because Cal is not a conference game, obviously.

As far as the Pac-10 offense vs. SEC defense goes... Scoring and yardage were no problem whatsoever the last couple seasons when Oregon State and Arizona State visited LSU. Both were mid-level Pac-10 teams from their respective years.

Oregon State @ LSU: 315 yards, 21 points. 2005 Final record: 7-5 (5-3 Pac-10)
LSU @ Arizona State: 560 yards, 31 points. 2005 Final record: 7-5 (4-4 Pac-10)

I'm not saying it won't be tough but the recent precedent for Pac-10 teams in regular season games against SEC powerhouses hasn't been great. While I'm fully aware defense is generally a dirty word in Pac-10 football, the offense is not something to be trivialized. Two teams have come into LSU and have had little or no problem moving the ball, and IMO the defenses of LSU and Tennessee are on the same level, and there's no way Cal is 4-4 or worse in Pac-10 and I even doubt a 5-3 conference record.

We'll see if the atmosphere at Neyland can trump Death Valley's. I think this game will turn into a shootout, point total somewhere around 60-70. Great test to see if Tennessee's offense can keep up on its own, Cal shouldn't make it extremely difficult to move the ball.
 
#41
#41
(crimedawg12 @ Apr 26 said:
Regardless, I think this is a make or break game for the big Orange
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Ummm.....it is a non conference game buddy. Make or break, I don't think so. You want to talk about make or break, let's look at Georgia, Florida, SC.
 
#42
#42
(oklavol @ Apr 26 said:
The make or break game for UT is Florida.

It sets the tone for the SEC, UT is either the team everyone wants to beat or UT spends the rest of season hoping Florida loses twice in the SEC.
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i agree that they will probably lose twice in the SEC..their schedule is pretty tough...but i don't know that i would characterize that game as the make or break game for us this year.

i still think on paper FL is better than us and should be favored to win. So a loss there in my mind is one that you kind of expect.

Now a win though, that changes things...if we come out and beat Cal and UF....whoa...can you imagine what the expectations are going to be if that happens? and not that that's a bad thing mind you...

i guess my point is, there's no real downside for us this year with that game....i truly think most everyone will think we will lose the UF game, so if we do, oh well. a win would do wonders!!!! So there is no real downside on that game in my mind...cause there's nothing really to lose...imo.
 
#43
#43
The make or break game for UT is Florida.

It sets the tone for the SEC, UT is either the team everyone wants to beat or UT spends the rest of season hoping Florida loses twice in the SEC.
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#44
#44
i think it will be a very interesting season .... as always the sec is a meat grinder and alot of it is luck on how your season ends up ...look @ auburn in 04 , they were an awesome team but turned over a 4 leaf clover when they played LSU , they should have lost that game . i dont take anything away from them b/c they also had talent ...i just hope UT can have a season like that ....nothing wrong with wishful thinking
 
#45
#45
(bigdaddy @ Apr 27 said:
Ummm.....it is a non conference game buddy. Make or break, I don't think so. You want to talk about make or break, let's look at Georgia, Florida, SC.
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Buddies we are not! Yeah as long as we win SEC games the non conference schedule means nothing and our aspirations are the same as Kentucky, Ole Miss, Vandy etc. A loss to Cal and lets see, we can always look foward to the SEC games. A few loses there and we can look at going to a low rent bowl game or not! Then we can look all the way back to that meaningless Cal game!
 
#46
#46
(milohimself @ Apr 27 said:
Agreed. Because Cal is not a conference game, obviously.

As far as the Pac-10 offense vs. SEC defense goes... Scoring and yardage were no problem whatsoever the last couple seasons when Oregon State and Arizona State visited LSU. Both were mid-level Pac-10 teams from their respective years.

Oregon State @ LSU: 315 yards, 21 points. 2005 Final record: 7-5 (5-3 Pac-10)
LSU @ Arizona State: 560 yards, 31 points. 2005 Final record: 7-5 (4-4 Pac-10)

I'm not saying it won't be tough but the recent precedent for Pac-10 teams in regular season games against SEC powerhouses hasn't been great. While I'm fully aware defense is generally a dirty word in Pac-10 football, the offense is not something to be trivialized. Two teams have come into LSU and have had little or no problem moving the ball, and IMO the defenses of LSU and Tennessee are on the same level, and there's no way Cal is 4-4 or worse in Pac-10 and I even doubt a 5-3 conference record.

We'll see if the atmosphere at Neyland can trump Death Valley's. I think this game will turn into a shootout, point total somewhere around 60-70. Great test to see if Tennessee's offense can keep up on its own, Cal shouldn't make it extremely difficult to move the ball.
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You talk about how Oregon State and Arizona State went in and had big games against a LSU defense that wasn't that good. Crap UT's offense went and shredded LSU's defense in the second half last year and we all know how poor UT's offense was last year. So you really don't have a leg to stand on there.
 
#47
#47
Yeah, and during that second half, the stars aligned and Tennessee's offense failed to stumble over its own feet while LSU's defense simply layed down. I wish I could say it's because Tennessee showed its full capability then, but given last season I have a hard time believing it.

It's just a recent precedent of a decent Pac-10 team playing an SEC powerhouse.
 
#49
#49
(crimedawg12 @ Apr 27 said:
Buddies we are not! Yeah as long as we win SEC games the non conference schedule means nothing and our aspirations are the same as Kentucky, Ole Miss, Vandy etc. A loss to Cal and lets see, we can always look foward to the SEC games. A few loses there and we can look at going to a low rent bowl game or not! Then we can look all the way back to that meaningless Cal game!
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Keep your gun in the holster crimedawg! :biggrin2:
 
#50
#50
(crimedawg12 @ Apr 27 said:
Buddies we are not! Yeah as long as we win SEC games the non conference schedule means nothing and our aspirations are the same as Kentucky, Ole Miss, Vandy etc. A loss to Cal and lets see, we can always look foward to the SEC games. A few loses there and we can look at going to a low rent bowl game or not! Then we can look all the way back to that meaningless Cal game!
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Your are intitled to your own opinion. I just don't see non conference games meaning as much as our SEC games. A loss would be a loss, but the first game of the season to a higher ranked non con team, still not devistation in my world. So hostile, may be you should look into therapy.
 
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