California Secession

#76
#76
BearCat204 said:
This is as convoluted as you could possibly be when comparing the two IMO. You are taking a huge part of the budget out of consideration when you are comparing state to federal budgets.
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Not to mention the hit to the California Republic's economy when the US government withdraws all of it's military bases and personnel out of California.
 
#77
#77
MG1968 said:
Not to mention the hit to the California Republic's economy when the US government withdraws all of it's military bases and personnel out of California.
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California has a plan for their state defense

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#78
#78
MG1968 said:
Not to mention the hit to the California Republic's economy when the US government withdraws all of it's military bases and personnel out of California.
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It might actually be a boon to an independent CA's economy. The US might want to keep those bases right where they are (why wouldn't they?). Thus CA would have the economic benefits without having to pay for the bases through US federal taxes.
 
#79
#79
Who would be the first president of Cali?
Boxer? Pelosi? Brown? The Terminator?

LMMF'ingA Off.

There has to be a movie or a HBO series coming soon.
 
#80
#80
BearCat204 said:
This is as convoluted as you could possibly be when comparing the two IMO. You are taking a huge part of the budget out of consideration when you are comparing state to federal budgets.
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IDK what's convoluted about pointing out that CA's commitments pale in comparison to the US's.
 
#81
#81
MG1968 said:
Not to mention the hit to the California Republic's economy when the US government withdraws all of it's military bases and personnel out of California.
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They can replace that income with weed tourism overnight.
 
#83
#83
BearCat204 said:
Maybe take in account things that the Fed provides to CA that is paid for with the Fed budget? Just think you are trying to compare apples to oranges here
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CA is definitely a taker, but that's because they are a big powerful state and they can get it, it's not because they need everything they are getting. What I'm driving at is that their habits will change, because the people paying for it will change.
 
#84
#84
n_huffhines said:
CA is definitely a taker, but that's because they are a big powerful state and they can get it, it's not because they need everything they are getting. What I'm driving at is that their habits will change, because the people paying for it will change.
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In a perfect world, yes they possibly could change, but California would be one of the last states that I would bet would.
 
#85
#85
BearCat204 said:
In a perfect world, yes they possibly could change, but California would be one of the last states that I would bet would.
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I don't think California's attitudes are going to change, I just think it takes a long time to build a government as bloated as our federal government is. CA would try their best, but starting fresh would likely take them a long time to accomplish what our federal government has accomplished. Yeah CA is crazy liberals, so they will have an EPA, but they'll save big on the MIC, etc.
 
#86
#86
n_huffhines said:
I don't think California's attitudes are going to change, I just think it takes a long time to build a government as bloated as our federal government is. CA would try their best, but starting fresh would likely take them a long time to accomplish what our federal government has accomplished. Yeah CA is crazy liberals, so they will have an EPA, but they'll save big on the MIC, etc.
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They will save, but will get conquered by the Mexicans........I mean LA is loaded with hot chicks so CA will be a sitting duck
 
#94
#94
If I were then POTUS, I would cut of the flow of the Colorado River at the border. Good luck growing your crops then, you are now doing it in the middle of a ****ing desert.
 
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#97
#97
n_huffhines said:
I guess I wasn't sure about that. I looked it up before I said it, but I think I misunderstood wallethub's graph.

Next time, it would help if you quoted what you want me to see.
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I guess I wanted you to see the article that I provided a link for. Did I do that wrong?
 
#98
#98
Danl said:
I guess I wanted you to see the article that I provided a link for. Did I do that wrong?
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Most people are never going to click on the link, let alone scour the article for the information you want them to see.

It did work with me, because I am interested in being informed. You could have still saved me the minute. :)
 
#99
#99
n_huffhines said:
Most people are never going to click on the link, let alone scour the article for the information you want them to see.

It did work with me, because I am interested in being informed. You could have still saved me the minute. :)
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OK. I see what you were saying.
 
#100
#100
California at it again.

'New California' movement seeks to divide the Golden State in half | Fox News

Two men have launched a campaign to divide rural California from the coastal cities, motivated by what they referred to as a “tyrannical form of government,” that doesn’t follow the state or federal constitution, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

Unlike the failed 2016 campaign to split California into 6 states, the “New California” movement, founded by Robert Paul Preston and Tom Reed, seeks to consolidate rural California into a distinct economy separate from the coast.

Preston and Reed say the citizens of the state live “under a tyrannical form of government that does not follow the California and U.S. Constitutions.”
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