Calling MZTERRY

[kevino]

After 46 years of following the Big Orange through thick and thin, the most accurate analysis that I could offer of our fan base would be the following: Yes, we have a fiercely proud and extremely passionate fan base. Yes, the losing we have endured over the course of the last 5-6 years has grated on the collective nerves of the Big Orange Nation.

There is, however, a disproportionately loud and hypercritical group of "fans" who describe themselves as Tennessee loyalists, who Coach Majors long ago dubbed most appropriately as the "Legions of the Miserable." If the Environmental Protection Agency had the power to pass judgment on these people, based on their behavior, they would have no alternative but to declare these Negavols as a toxic waste dump. They seem to have no real conception of supporting their team without reservation and are prone to turn on a dime and cannibalistically devour (yes, I am speaking metaphorically) their team and coaches.

Sad , but true

 

[MZTERRY]

One of the best ways for us cyber coaches to evaluate a recruit is his offer list. When his other offers are Florida and Alabama and LSU, then it's likely that he's a pretty good player. When his other offers are Cincinnati and Louisville and North Carolina State, he's probably not that good. Obviously it's imperfect but that's about the best we can do from down here in our basements.

As far as Dooley's recruiting during that last year goes -- all we really need to know is that he did not seriously recruit Vonn Bell, an elite player from the Chattanooga area who happens to be a lifelong Vol fan. Dooley didn't even go after him. Jones came in and pushed hard, but it was too late. And then Derek Dooley sat up there on cable TV on signing day, and talked about how Vonn Bell was a great player whom anybody would love to have -- even though he didn't bother going after him himself. Forgive us if we think that Dooley might not exactly have been giving his all for Tennessee on the recruiting trail his last year in Knoxville.

Okay, but let's be clear...this ain't about Dooley.. This is about Volnation. So i don't speak on anybody else kid, I'll keep this about mine.

My son had over 35 offers from all over the country and could have done anything he wanted included going on a dual and kept playing basketball too. All I'm saying is look over those lists.Dooley went after the top tier kids who showed genuine interest in UT.

Everybody who comes to visit UT won't necessarily like us, or click with our staff, although we would like that, it's just not realistic.

By what you're saying is it's okay to bring CBJ here from Cincinnati , offering the same kids, but cincin isn't utk, so since our 19 players offer lists included cincin, it didn't make then credible, we have their Coach. Are you saying that CBJ isn't credible? Same difference, same Coach, same style, since it's the same person.

So looking at a kids offer list....really doesn't matter...personally, Jason was offered by CBJ, but he was too far from Atlanta for me to be comfortable. I don't know how anyone can visit Neyland and not fall in luv..lol

 

[FalcoVol]

Many are very tired of rebuilding.

We truly are our own worst enemies, but without our passion UT football is dead.

That said, progress is what we expect (for the most part). Progress is occurring, but this damned schedule is trying to tear down the resolve and confidence of the team and fan base.

I hope this team stays focused and doesn't crumble like we saw in the recent past.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Okay, but let's be clear...this ain't about Dooley.. This is about Volnation. So i don't speak on anybody else kid, I'll keep this about mine.

My son had over 35 offers from all over the country and could have done anything he wanted included going on a dual and kept playing basketball too. All I'm saying is look over those lists.Dooley went after the top tier kids who showed genuine interest in UT.

Everybody who comes to visit UT won't necessarily like us, or click with our staff, although we would like that, it's just not realistic.

By what you're saying is it's okay to bring CBJ here from Cincinnati , offering the same kids, but cincin isn't utk, so since our 19 players offer lists included cincin, it didn't make then credible, we have their Coach. Are you saying that CBJ isn't credible? Same difference, same Coach, same style, since it's the same person.

So looking at a kids offer list....really doesn't matter...personally, Jason was offered by CBJ, but he was too far from Atlanta for me to be comfortable. I don't know how anyone can visit Neyland and not fall in luv..lol

First of all, I am not saying anything at all about your son, whom I remember being a proverbial BIG GET!! from the gate. I am speaking generally.

That said, Butch Jones was -- assuming he is a pragmatic fellow -- expending most of his energy on a different level of players at Cincinnati than he will be now that he's in the SEC. (Same as Brian Kellly goes after different players at Notre Dame now then he did when he was at UC.) So a hypothetical player who might have been right in Butch Jones's wheelhouse at Cincinnati might not be talented enough for him now, now that Jones is in the SEC.

The feeling among the recruitniks was always that Dooley took a bunch of guys who had sketchy offer lists. And when you watch this defense play, it's hard not to think they were right. I'm sure they're all great kids but most of them are just not fast enough to play in this conference. The position your son plays hasn't been a problem -- maybe because Dooley played WR and is more invested there? -- but the defense is full of guys who aren't SEC-level talent. They would probably fit right in if Butch Jones were coaching them at Cincinnati against Houston and Rutgers, but they can't stay with the guys from Florida and Georgia and Alabama. That's the difference.

 

[Vol865]

Okay, but let's be clear...this ain't about Dooley.. This is about Volnation. So i don't speak on anybody else kid, I'll keep this about mine.

My son had over 35 offers from all over the country and could have done anything he wanted included going on a dual and kept playing basketball too. All I'm saying is look over those lists.Dooley went after the top tier kids who showed genuine interest in UT.

Everybody who comes to visit UT won't necessarily like us, or click with our staff, although we would like that, it's just not realistic.

By what you're saying is it's okay to bring CBJ here from Cincinnati , offering the same kids, but cincin isn't utk, so since our 19 players offer lists included cincin, it didn't make then credible, we have their Coach. Are you saying that CBJ isn't credible? Same difference, same Coach, same style, since it's the same person.

So looking at a kids offer list....really doesn't matter...personally, Jason was offered by CBJ, but he was too far from Atlanta for me to be comfortable. I don't know how anyone can visit Neyland and not fall in luv..lol

First let me say I see more talent than most and can't think of any player that can't play at this level.

With that said that's why its irritating that they don't play to their potential, granted they are young but its the simple things.

Finally, I think as far as who is offered a coaching job and a scholarship is a little different. The AAC (Big East) isn't on the same level as the SEC. SEC is big time football therefore if other SEC, ACC etc. schools offer then it seems like a big deal to most. If its just smaller schools offering than most don't feel they can play on the same level as most players in this conference.

So its not really about whether Cincinnati offered because the measuring stick is whether the schools we compete with offered.

Personally, that's not how I form my opinions but thought id try to help.

I hope Jason has a great career as a student athlete.

 

[mkh423]

Mzterry personally I would like to thank you for how you handle yourself on here. If my son was getting bashed like I seen your son getting it a few games ago I would have went on the worst cussing spree anyone has ever read on here. When I seen jason drop that pass it brought back memories of my first baseball game on varsity in highschool I made a diving stop behind the bag on 3rd. Stood up and threw the ball off top of the fence behind first. I am sure when jason seen the ball coming it was like slow motion with all kinds of thoughts running through his head. With that said I feel like him and worley are getting on the same page and he has a lot of trust in jason that he is going to be and read the defense the same way worley reads it on rather to complete the route or sit down in the zone. Some of his best passes go jasons way. That just shows the confidence they both have in each other. Thanks for staying behind the orange one day jason will be known as the group that brought the swag back to ut.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

Jason is still a young player. Before its said and done this crop of receivers will be hell to deal with. It's coming. Jarvis Landry used to be mainly a special teamer at LSU as a youngster. Croom and the gang will be big time soon enough.

 

[james_govols]

Your son is doing a great job! Tell him to keep up the hard work!

 

[The Orange Pants]

I just don't understand. Cincy and UT aren't even in the same stratosphere.

 

[MZTERRY]

First of all, I am not saying anything at all about your son, whom I remember being a proverbial BIG GET!! from the gate. I am speaking generally.

That said, Butch Jones was -- assuming he is a pragmatic fellow -- expending most of his energy on a different level of players at Cincinnati than he will be now that he's in the SEC. (Same as Brian Kellly goes after different players at Notre Dame now then he did when he was at UC.) So a hypothetical player who might have been right in Butch Jones's wheelhouse at Cincinnati might not be talented enough for him now, now that Jones is in the SEC.

The feeling among the recruitniks was always that Dooley took a bunch of guys who had sketchy offer lists. And when you watch this defense play, it's hard not to think they were right. I'm sure they're all great kids but most of them are just not fast enough to play in this conference. The position your son plays hasn't been a problem -- maybe because Dooley played WR and is more invested there? -- but the defense is full of guys who aren't SEC-level talent. They would probably fit right in if Butch Jones were coaching them at Cincinnati against Houston and Rutgers, but they can't stay with the guys from Florida and Georgia and Alabama. That's the difference.

I gotcha.... never looked at it from that perspective; because my son is a wideout, and that's our vested interest.

I hear you though.:hi:

 

[DD4ME]

I'm on the boards reading all of the time.lol

I'm learning not to respond to off base stupid comments and accepting that every game is different. Some people are true fans some are "game day fans"...on the band wagon for whomever does well that game.lol

I'm proud of Jason and the strides he's making to be better, do better, and support the team as a whole.

I'm not going to respond to any of the questions regarding CBJ and staff. Many of you have begun to form your own opinions

~I see many of you beginning to speak negatively about the coaching

~i was shocked out of seat when i heard the booing at the game Saturday, actually the first time it happen i thought you were doing it towards USA, then my nephew told me"no, Auntie"..etc smh

The one thing i can say is this is the hardest fan base to please, and the same thing that i hate about this fan base is the same thing that i respect so much. We came to UT because of the passionate people, Dooley, Baggett and Terry Joseph...in that order, and we remain VFL because of you passionate people.

Classy Post!
Classy Lady
GBO

 

[MZTERRY]

Mzterry personally I would like to thank you for how you handle yourself on here. If my son was getting bashed like I seen your son getting it a few games ago I would have went on the worst cussing spree anyone has ever read on here. When I seen jason drop that pass it brought back memories of my first baseball game on varsity in highschool I made a diving stop behind the bag on 3rd. Stood up and threw the ball off top of the fence behind first. I am sure when jason seen the ball coming it was like slow motion with all kinds of thoughts running through his head. With that said I feel like him and worley are getting on the same page and he has a lot of trust in jason that he is going to be and read the defense the same way worley reads it on rather to complete the route or sit down in the zone. Some of his best passes go jasons way. That just shows the confidence they both have in each other. Thanks for staying behind the orange one day jason will be known as the group that brought the swag back to ut.

If my son was getting bashed like I seen your son getting it a few games ago I would have went on the worst cussing spree anyone has ever read on here.

I've learned it ain't worth the argument, and at the end of the day as in the past 19yrs..... I'm the one person who is always going to be in his corner; right wrong or indifferent, and the only VOL Fan I wake up has been there for the past 20 years. (MY HUBBY), so it doesn't phase me to flip out like I probably would have a while back. None of the kids are perfect and they're still in a learning curve. Croomster is working his tail off to do what's being asked of him. Azzanni spends a good amount of time him explaining and demonstrating his expectations of Croomster; which is becoming more evident in the past few games. I think with the relationship they have and are building; we'll be okay.

 

[Mason72]

MzTerry when Jason caught the TD pass a few weeks ago I was jumping up and down. I think he is going to be a breakout player for us. I root a little harder for him to do good because of you. Even though its a message board having you chime in makes it a little more personal.

I still need to get me a MzTerry jersey for gamedays...LOL

Go Vols

 

[MZTERRY]

MzTerry when Jason caught the TD pass a few weeks ago I was jumping up and down. I think he is going to be a breakout player for us. I root a little harder for him to do good because of you. Even though its a message board having you chime in makes it a little more personal.

I still need to get me a MzTerry jersey for gamedays...LOL

Go Vols

I need one too. :0) lol

 

[velovol]

If my son was getting bashed like I seen your son getting it a few games ago I would have went on the worst cussing spree anyone has ever read on here.

I've learned it ain't worth the argument, and at the end of the day as in the past 19yrs..... I'm the one person who is always going to be in his corner; right wrong or indifferent, and the only VOL Fan I wake up has been there for the past 20 years. (MY HUBBY), so it doesn't phase me to flip out like I probably would have a while back. None of the kids are perfect and they're still in a learning curve. Croomster is working his tail off to do what's being asked of him. Azzanni spends a good amount of time him explaining and demonstrating his expectations of Croomster; which is becoming more evident in the past few games. I think with the relationship they have and are building; we'll be okay.

I do admire the parents coming on here and letting their opinion be heard. I have two sons in sports and ive already told my wife if they ever just happen to be lucky enough to play ball at a D1 level we are cancelling the internet.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I'm on the boards reading all of the time.lol

I'm learning not to respond to off base stupid comments and accepting that every game is different. Some people are true fans some are "game day fans"...on the band wagon for whomever does well that game.lol

I'm proud of Jason and the strides he's making to be better, do better, and support the team as a whole.

I'm not going to respond to any of the questions regarding CBJ and staff. Many of you have begun to form your own opinions

~I see many of you beginning to speak negatively about the coaching

~i was shocked out of seat when i heard the booing at the game Saturday, actually the first time it happen i thought you were doing it towards USA, then my nephew told me"no, Auntie"..etc smh

The one thing i can say is this is the hardest fan base to please, and the same thing that i hate about this fan base is the same thing that i respect so much. We came to UT because of the passionate people, Dooley, Baggett and Terry Joseph...in that order, and we remain VFL because of you passionate people.

You're a heck of a mom. fan, and human being. VN is Jerry Springer 3.0, last year they were version 2.0. Due to that fact, VN has some posters who're so stupid that even there own stupidity is smarter than them. No medically known cure exists. Well, actually, that's not true. Problem is, the Russians won't grant me access the Leonov's dual door airlock to discard my, uh, ahem, stack of mystery disposables.

 

[utvolpj]

~i was shocked out of seat when i heard the booing at the game Saturday, actually the first time it happen i thought you were doing it towards USA, then my nephew told me"no, Auntie"..etc smh

I have no clue when the booing in the stadium occurred but I booed at home over the playcalling late in the game. For example, 8-9min left and go 3 and out with 2 plays being incomplete passes. We burned less than a minute and handed the ball right back to a team who was only down 7 points.

why is it wrong to express displeasure with the coaching or play-calling?

 

[MZTERRY]

I have no clue when the booing in the stadium occurred but I booed at home over the playcalling late in the game. For example, 8-9min left and go 3 and out with 2 plays being incomplete passes. We burned less than a minute and handed the ball right back to a team who was only down 7 points.

why is it wrong to express displeasure with the coaching or play-calling?

It's wasn't directed at coaching or play- calling..... it was directed at a player specifically.

 

[utvolpj]

It's wasn't directed at coaching or play- calling..... it was directed at a player specifically.

and you know this how? You admitted to not even realizing it was directed at UT

in the example I gave, any booing after the 3rd down incompletion could be taken as directed at Worley when it was actually meant for the play-calling. Jumping into the minds of 100k people is a difficult thing

 

[BenGrimm]

This is not true from what I've seen.

Guess you didn't pay much attention to all the Justin Hunter or Arian Foster hate. Go back a little further and throw in Casey Clausen too. It's a sad trend. I've often wondered how unique it is to UT but I've never felt like spending enough time on rival teams boards to find out.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I have no clue when the booing in the stadium occurred but I booed at home over the playcalling late in the game. For example, 8-9min left and go 3 and out with 2 plays being incomplete passes. We burned less than a minute and handed the ball right back to a team who was only down 7 points.

why is it wrong to express displeasure with the coaching or play-calling?

A professor in the long dim past once told me that people tend to rationalize their vices and rude behaviors. That this was especially so when they don't want to or refuse to give up the vice or behavior. :hi:

 

[utvolpj]

A professor in the long dim past once told me that people tend to rationalize their vices and rude behaviors. That this was especially so when they don't want to or refuse to give up the vice or behavior. :hi:

I will never give up the behavior of holding the coaches accountable. The series I mentioned was an idiotic sequence of calls and allowed SA to get the ball back and drive the length of the field.

 

[Majorvol23]

I can't stand the booing either - maybe in professional sports in some extreme circumstances, but never in college

Makes us look ridiculous as a fan base and likely only has a negative effect on players.

 

[#VFL__]

I can't stand the booing either - maybe in professional sports in some extreme circumstances, but never in college

Makes us look ridiculous as a fan base and likely only has a negative effect on players.

Bingo. Could you imagine coming back home after the past two games, only to get booed? Even as you are winning. Its ridiculous but that's life. People always want MOAR

 

[EZE]

Okay, but let's be clear...this ain't about Dooley.. This is about Volnation. So i don't speak on anybody else kid, I'll keep this about mine.

My son had over 35 offers from all over the country and could have done anything he wanted included going on a dual and kept playing basketball too. All I'm saying is look over those lists.Dooley went after the top tier kids who showed genuine interest in UT.

Everybody who comes to visit UT won't necessarily like us, or click with our staff, although we would like that, it's just not realistic.

By what you're saying is it's okay to bring CBJ here from Cincinnati , offering the same kids, but cincin isn't utk, so since our 19 players offer lists included cincin, it didn't make then credible, we have their Coach. Are you saying that CBJ isn't credible? Same difference, same Coach, same style, since it's the same person.

So looking at a kids offer list....really doesn't matter...personally, Jason was offered by CBJ, but he was too far from Atlanta for me to be comfortable. I don't know how anyone can visit Neyland and not fall in luv..lol

Count me as one who is 100% behind this team--both coaches and players.