Calling Out the Students.....

#26
#26
It is ridiculous to charge them $10 a game for the garbage on the field the last few yrs. if you win, they will come in numbers. That's all there is to it. If we were winning they would pay the money.but we're not winning and were not even competitive.
 
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You used to be able to purchase two tickets and bring one of your friends to the game, considering UT has a hell of a lot of local students who don't live on campus and who have friends who aren't UT students this was a good policy. Then they said only students with ID could sit there. THAT hurt in two ways: 1. you can't always be at a game 2. (a) if something came up you couldn't just give your ticket for away to someone who wanted to go at the last minute (b) you couldn't sell your ticket -- a lot of kids sold at least one of their tickets to buy extras they needed and if it was a road game you'd sell tickets for 1 or 2 games to finance a road trip.

Then they started raising 'student activities fees' through the roof. Students knew damn well that fee paid for football tickets whether they went or not and other sports while smaller activities got less. That pissed a lot of people off because now they were stuck for paying a high 'activities fee' PLUS a higher ticket price (essentially charged twice for a ticket, unable to bring the person YOU wanted to bring and have your ID count for your guest, unable to even give your ticket to someone standing outside hoping against hope he/she would get one, unable to sell your ticket to finance a premium game, while knowing full well you were getting the big orange screw). And back when every game was a premium they'd cut down student allotments so much that unless you camped out for days you weren't getting one.

The simple fact of the matter is UT has never treated students as anything more than an afterthought when it comes to games and students know it. Now, that they have lowered attendance they want students to come out and support the team but they haven't changed the way they do things or made students feel very welcome. One thing Bruce Pearl did was do things for students, instead of isolating students from the program as football does, he went after students, made sure they were treated as the most valuable people there (students, alumni, and faculty [not administrators] should always be treated this way -- it's our freaking school, especially current students) and made them feel a part of their program instead of outsiders looking at a impenetrable program where it's clear your presence is not really wanted so please stay where you belong with all the other regular students.

If football wants to turn up the volume they should take a page out of Pearl's book. A thriving student section builds atmosphere and keeps regular more fair weather fans attending because they enjoy being there. Allowing Neyland to turn into a Mausoleum is not helpful in any way to program or the university.
 
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UTProf said:
You used to be able to purchase two tickets and bring one of your friends to the game, considering UT has a hell of a lot of local students who don't live on campus and who have friends who aren't UT students this was a good policy. Then they said only students with ID could sit there. THAT hurt in two ways: 1. you can't always be at a game 2. (a) if something came up you couldn't just give your ticket for away to someone who wanted to go at the last minute (b) you couldn't sell your ticket -- a lot of kids sold at least one of their tickets to buy extras they needed and if it was a road game you'd sell tickets for 1 or 2 games to finance a road trip.

Then they started raising 'student activities fees' through the roof. Students knew damn well that fee paid for football tickets whether they went or not and other sports while smaller activities got less. That pissed a lot of people off because now they were stuck for paying a high 'activities fee' PLUS a higher ticket price (essentially charged twice for a ticket, unable to bring the person YOU wanted to bring and have your ID count for your guest, unable to even give your ticket to someone standing outside hoping against hope he/she would get one, unable to sell your ticket to finance a premium game, while knowing full well you were getting the big orange screw). And back when every game was a premium they'd cut down student allotments so much that unless you camped out for days you weren't getting one.

The simple fact of the matter is UT has never treated students as anything more than an afterthought when it comes to games and students know it. Now, that they have lowered attendance they want students to come out and support the team but they haven't changed the way they do things or made students feel very welcome. One thing Bruce Pearl did was do things for students, instead of isolating students from the program as football does, he went after students, made sure they were treated as the most valuable people there (students, alumni, and faculty [not administrators] should always be treated this way -- it's our freaking school, especially current students) and made them feel a part of their program instead of outsiders looking at a impenetrable program where it's clear your presence is not really wanted so please stay where you belong with all the other regular students.

If football wants to turn up the volume they should take a page out of Pearl's book. A thriving student section builds atmosphere and keeps regular more fair weather fans attending because they enjoy being there. Allowing Neyland to turn into a Mausoleum is not helpful in any way to program or the university.
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This. So much this
 
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UT student section is pretty low on the SEC totem pole. It does not have any traditions of chants or gestures. Everyone just stands and screams. Do not get me started on the DJ Khaled "All we do is win" song the band plays or Bon Jovi "We're half way there"
 
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vflgolfer said:
UT student section is pretty low on the SEC totem pole. It does not have any traditions of chants or gestures. Everyone just stands and screams. Do not get me started on the DJ Khaled "All we do is win" song the band plays or Bon Jovi "We're half way there"
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AKA "Livin' on a Prayer"
 
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Nashvol2 said:
Trust me, you got nothing else better to do on Saturday afternoon/evening than to come out and support your Tennessee Volunteer football team. Now is the time to make some of the best memories of your life with 100,000 of your closest friends!

Coach Jones said it best today during his press conference. "We should sell out our student body tickets EVERY single home game. That is the expectation."

You'll only have this chance a handful of times for a handful of years. Take advantage of it and Go Vols!
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If he keeps playing the way they are students will be the only people at the game.... so he is like hey at least someone will be there...lol
 
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Univoftnvol said:
I was there from 1980-1984. Tickets were not free, the cost was buried in the tuition and broken out on the statement as "Activity Fees Cost"(quarterly fees) No semesters back then. We were given a "Activities Card" once tuition was paid. One student could go to the University Center with up to 3 other student's activity cards. (4 tickets total) Stood in line and got whatever tickets were given to you. Almost always packed out. My bet is it's easier today....no standing in line. Nothing was free!!
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Actually it wasn't in the activities fee. This has only been rehashed about a zillion times. The tickets were free compliments of the AD. Camping out for Bama tickets used to be a right of passage.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Just messing with you....I'm sure you did that on purpose because it's pretty lame to play a song called "Livin' on a Prayer".

Sort of defines the last decade of UT football.
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It's quite ironic, isn't it. Same goes with DJ Khaled "All we do is win", which we have not in quite a while.
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
When I was at UT all games were free. That is the way it was for over 100 years. Then Hamilton changed it in the mid 2000's to charge for student tickets. Attendance has been down since.

I know "its not a lot of money" and "they should be able to pay it" and "if we won they would happily pay it" arguments. But why does the University charge the students when it clearly doesn't need to given it didn't do it for the first 100+ years of TN football. When the team is strugling as it is now is the perfect time for UT to reverse course and give students free tickets.
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And let 'em drink Jack!
 
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KnoxVillain said:
Noon game with a lackluster opponent after two losses...it's setup pretty poorly to expect a large crowd.
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No excuse. If you're a true Vol fan you will be there to support the team no matter what kind of record they have or who they are playing. They need all of our support just as much during the bad times as they do during the good times. Let them know we have their backs and arent giving up on them, because they sure aren't giving up, and their play on the field proves that. So far this has been a fun team to watch, and you can see them improve from week to week. It may not show up as a win on the scoreboard yet against a team much better than us, but it will soon.
 
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Nashvol2 said:
Trust me, you got nothing else better to do on Saturday afternoon/evening than to come out and support your Tennessee Volunteer football team. Now is the time to make some of the best memories of your life with 100,000 of your closest friends!

Coach Jones said it best today during his press conference. "We should sell out our student body tickets EVERY single home game. That is the expectation."

You'll only have this chance a handful of times for a handful of years. Take advantage of it and Go Vols!
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If Butch Jones expects to sell out student tickets for every game, he needs to field a team that is more competitive. As is, I'm sure we sell as many (or probably, more) tickets as any team that looks like winning 5-6 games in a season and gets beat handily by every quality opponent.

Its an odd dichotomy on here of threads that say "What did you expect? We cant win with this roster" and threads that wonder "Why aren't more people coming to the games." You would think eventually it would click.
 
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UTProf said:
You used to be able to purchase two tickets and bring one of your friends to the game, considering UT has a hell of a lot of local students who don't live on campus and who have friends who aren't UT students this was a good policy. Then they said only students with ID could sit there. THAT hurt in two ways: 1. you can't always be at a game 2. (a) if something came up you couldn't just give your ticket for away to someone who wanted to go at the last minute (b) you couldn't sell your ticket -- a lot of kids sold at least one of their tickets to buy extras they needed and if it was a road game you'd sell tickets for 1 or 2 games to finance a road trip.

Then they started raising 'student activities fees' through the roof. Students knew damn well that fee paid for football tickets whether they went or not and other sports while smaller activities got less. That pissed a lot of people off because now they were stuck for paying a high 'activities fee' PLUS a higher ticket price (essentially charged twice for a ticket, unable to bring the person YOU wanted to bring and have your ID count for your guest, unable to even give your ticket to someone standing outside hoping against hope he/she would get one, unable to sell your ticket to finance a premium game, while knowing full well you were getting the big orange screw). And back when every game was a premium they'd cut down student allotments so much that unless you camped out for days you weren't getting one.

The simple fact of the matter is UT has never treated students as anything more than an afterthought when it comes to games and students know it. Now, that they have lowered attendance they want students to come out and support the team but they haven't changed the way they do things or made students feel very welcome. One thing Bruce Pearl did was do things for students, instead of isolating students from the program as football does, he went after students, made sure they were treated as the most valuable people there (students, alumni, and faculty [not administrators] should always be treated this way -- it's our freaking school, especially current students) and made them feel a part of their program instead of outsiders looking at a impenetrable program where it's clear your presence is not really wanted so please stay where you belong with all the other regular students.

If football wants to turn up the volume they should take a page out of Pearl's book. A thriving student section builds atmosphere and keeps regular more fair weather fans attending because they enjoy being there. Allowing Neyland to turn into a Mausoleum is not helpful in any way to program or the university.
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Nailed it. :good!:

Need to forward this to the AD.
 
#43
#43
Wait...students don't camp out for tickets anymore!?! No wonder they aren't as loyal. This makes me sad. I went from 97-'02. Yes...blessed to see Peyton Manning AND a national title!
One of my best memories came from camping out for Florida 1998. We didn't camp for a few hours. No, we camped for 2 days!! Kids were camped out outside the UC in tents and sleeping bags drinking jack and eating donuts and pizza. And it was freakin awesome!
And camping out just made the game that much more exciting! But of course we were winning then. Nobody really ever sat in their seats. They squeezed in where they could and we all shared our booze. It was awesome! I miss those days and I miss being in the student section. Makes me sad that this generation doesn't camp our anymore!:(
 
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other SEC schools with free tickets actually have waiting lists for tickets to every single home game.

other SEC schools don't have to fill up 105,000 seats for a sell out either.
 
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Don't call out the students, that won't help. Call out the admins and make it a better game day experience for the students who do go. I don't think a team should ever call out the home crowd, especially students. Just my $0.02.
 
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volsohard99 said:
other SEC schools with free tickets actually have waiting lists for tickets to every single home game.

other SEC schools don't have to fill up 105,000 seats for a sell out either.
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There are only 2 other SEC schools at the most who don't charge students for their tickets, if even that. I think one may be Vandy, but not sure who the other one is. I know that the many years that UT did not charge students for their tickets, we were one of only about 2 that did not at that time.
 
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rocketvol said:
Wait...students don't camp out for tickets anymore!?! No wonder they aren't as loyal. This makes me sad. I went from 97-'02. Yes...blessed to see Peyton Manning AND a national title!
One of my best memories came from camping out for Florida 1998. We didn't camp for a few hours. No, we camped for 2 days!! Kids were camped out outside the UC in tents and sleeping bags drinking jack and eating donuts and pizza. And it was freakin awesome!
And camping out just made the game that much more exciting! But of course we were winning then. Nobody really ever sat in their seats. They squeezed in where they could and we all shared our booze. It was awesome! I miss those days and I miss being in the student section. Makes me sad that this generation doesn't camp our anymore!:(
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We camped out overnight in the 70s too...both football and basketball. We tagged teamed for each other if someone had an exam. You could get 4 tickets with 4 activity cards and a student ID! I have a picture somewhere all bundled up proudly holding up my 4 tickets to Florida!
 
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oregonvol said:
If Butch Jones expects to sell out student tickets for every game, he needs to field a team that is more competitive. As is, I'm sure we sell as many (or probably, more) tickets as any team that looks like winning 5-6 games in a season and gets beat handily by every quality opponent.

Its an odd dichotomy on here of threads that say "What did you expect? We cant win with this roster" and threads that wonder "Why aren't more people coming to the games." You would think eventually it would click.
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How can he field a more competitive team at this time? The guy just got here, and has only coached 4 games. It's not his fault he has to work with what he has.
 
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onevolfan said:
How can he field a more competitive team at this time? The guy just got here, and has only coached 4 games. It's not his fault he has to work with what he has.
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Most coaches have to work with what they have. Most coaches take over for guys who got fired. Plenty of coaches take over rosters with less talent than their competition. You don't just get a pass until you get all your own recruits.

I doubt many expected to actually beat Oregon or even Florida, but you have to show some real improvement and so far, the team still looks pretty much inept. No way is that solely the talent level. Some of the responsibility has to be on the coaches.
 
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