Cam Clear to the Basketball Court

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volfan53 said:
What about Ron Widby. 3 sport star at UT in the 60's. Played football, basketball and baseball. Played pro football and baseball. I also believe he was the first UT basketball player to score 50 points in a game. If memory serves me correctly he scored 50 in a game against LSU while Pistl Pete scored 50 for LSU and we lost by one. I am getting older and have my senior moments so forgive me if I am a little off on this.

Sorry I was a little off. He actually lettered in 4 sports at UT. He was also a scratch golfer. He was all American in football for two years and all American in basketball. Played pro basketball for one year with the Bulls and pro football for 6 years with the cowboys. I cannot think of one other athelete that has been as talented in as many sports.

Also BoJackson was pretty good at two sports.
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Widby only punted at UT and Dallas, but he was actually a very good quarterback in high school. He also played basketball in the ABA for a while. I remember one time when he played a basketball game on Saturday night and then flew to Dallas so he could punt in the Cowboys game the next day. He was not only able to play multiple sports, he was actually good in ALL of them.
 
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For those of you mentioning track, though that is a sport it needs to be clarified. Hunter's Leaping ability is one of the things that makes him a great receiver. Willie Gault's speed was what made him dynamic as well. Cameron Clear working on his jump shot has no benefit to his football career what so ever. If you are Jeff Demps fast, then you can take a ball and run with it. Track only helps your speed.

Clear may be the next Antonio Gates or Jimmy Graham but lets be honest did anyone know who they were when they played football in college? Well for those of you that don't know, Graham didn't play basketball and football at the same time (one season to be exact for Miami)... Antonio Gates didn't play college basketball. The Almighty Nick Saban made him choose between Basketball and Football... and he transferred out of MSU. It is fine to use them as examples of people that can be great at both sports but you have to remember these athletes focused on one sport at a time. To be good at basketball or football, you need a lot of reps (whether its catching, shooting, blocking, dribbling, or learning plays). Without those, you will be deminishing your ability to play at a high level... Could he be good at both? Possibly, but he won't be as good as he could be if he splits his time between the two sports...
 
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volfan53 said:
What about Ron Widby. 3 sport star at UT in the 60's. Played football, basketball and baseball. Played pro football and baseball. I also believe he was the first UT basketball player to score 50 points in a game. If memory serves me correctly he scored 50 in a game against LSU while Pistl Pete scored 50 for LSU and we lost by one. I am getting older and have my senior moments so forgive me if I am a little off on this.

Sorry I was a little off. He actually lettered in 4 sports at UT. He was also a scratch golfer. He was all American in football for two years and all American in basketball. Played pro basketball for one year with the Bulls and pro football for 6 years with the cowboys. I cannot think of one other athelete that has been as talented in as many sports.

Also BoJackson was pretty good at two sports.
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Bo excelled in three. Football, baseball and track. Athletes that excelle in more than one sport are very rare and it usually is football and track.
 
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Thump said:
For those of you mentioning track, though that is a sport it needs to be clarified. Hunter's Leaping ability is one of the things that makes him a great receiver. Willie Gault's speed was what made him dynamic as well. Cameron Clear working on his jump shot has no benefit to his football career what so ever. If you are Jeff Demps fast, then you can take a ball and run with it. Track only helps your speed.
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No man. Completely flawed in so many ways. If track benefits football then I promise, basketball does the same, if not more. Besides soccer, what sport has you moving more than basketball? Your not factoring in that during normal / scheduled practice, rebounding, pushing the ball up the floor, blocking shots, and the countless jumpshots are going to do wonders for his leaping ability and conditioning. Your acting like basketball practice is just some picnic in the park. That's just plain silly to argue one over the other.

IMO, as long as it's not taking time away from the film room, doesn't interfer with his studies, it would only help someone to go dual as far as athletics are concerned. He wouldn't be running routes but I guarentee he's least likely to gasp for breath running up a court 25-30 minutes a night when Fall rolls around.
 
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fade route said:
2 sport atheletes in college usually aren't awesome at either one.
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Ron Widby might have something to say about that....

nm - just noticed him already mentioned. How about Willie Gault?
 
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fade route said:
2 sport atheletes in college usually aren't awesome at either one.
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Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Jimmy Graham. All these guys clearly suck. I mean only one of them is going to the hall of fame... So far
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Anybody remember W. Gault... H. Walker.... & B. Jackson running the 100 Yard dash at Tom Black Track??

Impressive
 
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Shaun1985 said:
No man. Completely flawed in so many ways. If track benefits football then I promise, basketball does the same, if not more. Besides soccer, what sport has you moving more than basketball? Your not factoring in that during normal / scheduled practice, rebounding, pushing the ball up the floor, blocking shots, and the countless jumpshots are going to do wonders for his leaping ability and conditioning. Your acting like basketball practice is just some picnic in the park. That's just plain silly to argue one over the other.

IMO, as long as it's not taking time away from the film room, doesn't interfer with his studies, it would only help someone to go dual as far as athletics are concerned. He wouldn't be running routes but I guarentee he's least likely to gasp for breath running up a court 25-30 minutes a night when Fall rolls around.
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The problem is that it WILL take away from his time in the film room. How is he going to watch film, lift with the team, do walkthroughs, whatever else while he is playing basketball? My point with track is if you are fast you step out there and run. There isn't a lot of film prep on your opponent. He isn't out their trying to learn two playbooks not to even mention his studies. There is a lot more to basketball than the two or three games a week that you see us play...
 
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I don't know enough about the schedules to know what conflicts with what. My argument was that playing basketball would indeed benefit your football skills from a physical standpoint.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
I don't know enough about the schedules to know what conflicts with what. My argument was that playing basketball would indeed benefit your football skills from a physical standpoint.
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Just dip my toe in here. If basketball helped a football player get ready for football, then it would probably be a part of "voluntary" workouts in the off-season. While I can see how basketball practice would be better than doing nothing, I would bet that position specific drills and exercises would be best, not to mention time playing another sport takes away from time in the weight room.
 
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fade route said:
2 sport atheletes in college usually aren't awesome at either one.
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Guy named Jim Brown played football and lacrosse at Syracuse. Many thought he was better at lacrosse even than football, but no real place to take your lacrosse talent back then after college so he just went on and played for the Cleveland Browns for the next decade in the NFL.

1st team All-American in both sports his senior college season.

Guess it turned out all right for him.
 
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Not saying that. Obviously he would get better doing things he does in football. I was just making a point that since Track helps your football skills, you can make the same case for basketball.
 
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I don't know why you guys are giving fade so much crap for disagreeing with past, unrelated posts.

What he said is completely true. Most two-sport athletes at higher levels are not awesome in either one.

I'm not sure if you who disagree notice, but the word "most" indicates room for deviation from the norm. In other words, rare, extraordinary athletes can come in and buck that trend.

The vast majority of players who do this, mainly at smaller programs, are by no means "awesome", and any and all of the few names you are able to muster to "disprove" this notion only serves the point of "most".
 
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JoseDaMofo said:
I don't know why you guys are giving fade so much crap for disagreeing with past, unrelated posts.

What he said is completely true. Most two-sport athletes at higher levels are not awesome in either one.

I'm not sure if you who disagree notice, but the word "most" indicates room for deviation from the norm. In other words, rare, extraordinary athletes can come in and buck that trend.

The vast majority of players who do this, mainly at smaller programs, are by no means "awesome", and any and all of the few names you are able to muster to "disprove" this notion only serves the point of "most".
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You and fade share some kind of man love or something?
 
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Quit using track as an example. Its not the same thing. And this should end up a moot point because Clear is nowhere near an SEC caliber post player.
 
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I just don't see how Dooley would have a problem with this when Hunter runs track. Can't hold a double standard in my opinion.
 
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JoseDaMofo said:
I don't know why you guys are giving fade so much crap for disagreeing with past, unrelated posts.

What he said is completely true. Most two-sport athletes at higher levels are not awesome in either one.

I'm not sure if you who disagree notice, but the word "most" indicates room for deviation from the norm. In other words, rare, extraordinary athletes can come in and buck that trend.

The vast majority of players who do this, mainly at smaller programs, are by no means "awesome", and any and all of the few names you are able to muster to "disprove" this notion only serves the point of "most".
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It's Fade. That's why. It's kinda like the concept for "an idiot abroad." Prod and poke him, get him fired up, then sit back and enjoy the show. You'll learn young one.
 
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fade route said:
2 sport atheletes in college usually aren't awesome at either one.
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Julius Peppers, Bo Jackson, Donovan McNabb, Russell Wilson, Chris Weinke, Deion Sanders, Brian Jordan, John Elway, Tom Brady, Tony Gonzalez, Brandon Weeden, Justin Hunter, Jabari Greer,Denard Robinson, Andre Johnson, Chris Johnson, Maurice Jones-Drew... sounds like a pretty impressive list of 2 sport athletes that excelled in one and sometimes both.
 
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