Cam Newton's post super bowl press conference

[NCFisher]

I think you'd have a comparable argument if Drew Brees approached Manning and Peyton brushed him off and ignored him, or made an ass out of himself.

Simply leaving the field in the midst of all the hoopla and celebration from the other team isn't classless in the least bit. It isn't a requirement for position players to meet and exchange pleasantries after every game. If that were a regular season game, I'm sure PM probably hangs around and greets Brees, but in the midst of all the chaos following a Super Bowl, it's a collective "who cares" that he left the field.

It seems Manning and Reggie Wayne are about the only people who've heard of the "duck and run" tradition following a SBowl loss. Peyton pulled a Cam after Super Bowl XLIV, blew off Saints' handshake - CBSSports.com

Newton and the Panthers haven't heard of it and Manning didn't point it out to them Sunday night.

 

[volfanhill]

It's over exaggerated. They need to listen to what Peyton himself said about it. The media got offended more than anyone else. Their sense of entitlement was challenged and I liked that.

We have a winner

 

[SteelerVol]

I rooted Denver.

Newton's transgression of leaving reporters in the lurch is lesser than Manning sulking off the field without congratulating Brees and the Saints. You don't have to be a fan of either to see 33 yr. old Manning got a pass, while the much younger Newton is being asymmetrically roasted. Peyton pulled a Cam after Super Bowl XLIV, blew off Saints' handshake - CBSSports.com

How many times has Peyton danced in the end-zone, wore a Superman t-shirt or wore those MVP cleats that say "Look at me, I'm the shiz-willy of the NFL"?
Heck, Peyton has thrown for a gazillion yards, more TDs than anyone in the history of this wonderful game, won 2 Superbowls... surely to goodness if anyone deserves to be able to wear that shirt it would be him or Brady. Why leave that totally pertinent fact out of the post?

 

[NCFisher]

How many times has Peyton danced in the end-zone, wore a Superman t-shirt or wore those MVP cleats that say "Look at me, I'm the shiz-willy of the NFL"?
Heck, Peyton has thrown for a gazillion yards, more TDs than anyone in the history of this wonderful game, won 2 Superbowls... surely to goodness if anyone deserves to be able to wear that shirt it would be him or Brady. Why leave that totally pertinent fact out of the post?

The point made is that Manning was actually a worse SB loser than Cam Newton. What does your "totally pertinent" fact have to do with that?

BTW, this season Newton was the 'shiz-willy', and his dress wear was no different than throughout the season. Do you know how parochial you sound?

 

[BeecherVol]

Newton would be better served at this point to drop it and get away from interviews for awhile. Im not sure he can talk his way around the fumble and post game now.

 

[southgatevol]

The point made is that Manning was actually a worse SB loser than Cam Newton. What does your "totally pertinent" fact have to do with that?

BTW, this season Newton was the 'shiz-willy', and his dress wear was no different than throughout the season. Do you know how parochial you sound?

Defend him if you must. Newton failed to perform in the spotlight he desires,then showed a lack of class afterwards. It is what it is. Can't change it now no matter how much you want to degrade Manning.

 

[cncchris33]

It seems Manning and Reggie Wayne are about the only people who've heard of the "duck and run" tradition following a SBowl loss. Peyton pulled a Cam after Super Bowl XLIV, blew off Saints' handshake - CBSSports.com

Newton and the Panthers haven't heard of it and Manning didn't point it out to them Sunday night.

First of all, the article you posted is completely wrong in that it claims PM and Reggie Wayne were the only ones to walk off the field. In fact, Jerraud Powers, #25, is the first player to walk off (ironically enough, this is evidenced in the video within your quoted article), followed by Wayne, Pierre Garcon, and then Manning. At least 5 other Colts immediately followed suit, for a minimum of 9 players. At least 9 out of 53 players walked off without shaking hands, yet Peyton and Wayne were called out for it.

This was PM's explanation, and it has sound reasoning behind it, whether you agree with it or not...

"I'll certainly talk to Drew," Manning said after the game when asked why he didn't shake hands with anyone,*via Boston.com. "I certainly know how it was three years ago when we won. There's not much consolation for the guys who didn't win. There's the stage getting set up and there's the celebration. That's the time for the Saints to celebrate. It's their field. They deserve the moment. I certainly congratulate all their players, their organization. I will speak to Drew Brees, speak to Sean Payton. They deserve all the credit."

Again, if PM had been approached by Brees on the field immediately afterwards and chose to blow him off and act like a jerk/baby/poor sport, then I think the Cam defenders would have a more comparable argument. I just don't see much parallel in the two cases as they are currently.

 

[golfballs]

This is the problem w his generation.... And I'm only a few years older.

Selfish babies who feel entitled to be selfish babies

 

[volmoon]

NO, Denver's defense played well enough for Manning to win.

Do if Dobbs has a game similar to Manning during the 2016 season, you wouldn't be upset? I guarantee you that there would be at least 50 threads talking about benching Dobbs for Dormady/Jones, how CBJ is a QB killer, Fahr CBJ, etc...etc...

I get the Manning love, but he played horribly. You can wash it and dress it up however you want, but a stat line of 13/23 for 141 yds. 1 int and 1 fumble and taking 5 sacks for 37 yards is not playing well. For comparison, Dobbs was 15-23 for 136 and an int in a game last year, and we won. This place damn near melted down. It's ok to be a fan, bu at least be an objective fan.

Sounds like your posts about PM play.

 

[Ohio Vol]

This is the problem w his generation.... And I'm only a few years older.

Selfish babies who feel entitled to be selfish babies

That's what my father's generation said about mine, what my grandfather's generation said about my father's, what my great-grandfather's generation said about my grandfather's....you get the idea.

 

[volmoon]

You are correct good sir. We are all Vol Fans, but to some of the fans, Manning can do no wrong. They will surely let him bang their wife or daughter for an autograph...hell they may even let him bang them for a picture. Fandom is a crazy thing.

And to other Vol fans apparently Manning winning Sunday's Super Bowl is worthy of criticizing him (over and over and over again)?

 

[1982Alum]

Acting like a brat throws all the press off the fact he couldn't throw the ball to anyone on his team with any regularity.

I think the NFL just saw how to put this punk away week after week. Let him hang himself by letting him throw the ball and knock the hell out of him if he tries to run.

 

[Biopsyman]

Like him or not.., his brand has been elevated... Alot of money coming his way over the next few years... Book it.. Villains makes as much as the heroes

 

[NCFisher]

First of all, the article you posted is completely wrong in that it claims PM and Reggie Wayne were the only ones to walk off the field. In fact, Jerraud Powers, #25, is the first player to walk off (ironically enough, this is evidenced in the video within your quoted article), followed by Wayne, Pierre Garcon, and then Manning. At least 5 other Colts immediately followed suit, for a minimum of 9 players. At least 9 out of 53 players walked off without shaking hands, yet Peyton and Wayne were called out for it.

This was PM's explanation, and it has sound reasoning behind it, whether you agree with it or not...

"I'll certainly talk to Drew," Manning said after the game when asked why he didn't shake hands with anyone,*via Boston.com. "I certainly know how it was three years ago when we won. There's not much consolation for the guys who didn't win. There's the stage getting set up and there's the celebration. That's the time for the Saints to celebrate. It's their field. They deserve the moment. I certainly congratulate all their players, their organization. I will speak to Drew Brees, speak to Sean Payton. They deserve all the credit."

Again, if PM had been approached by Brees on the field immediately afterwards and chose to blow him off and act like a jerk/baby/poor sport, then I think the Cam defenders would have a more comparable argument. I just don't see much parallel in the two cases as they are currently.

Nonsense. Whether it was two or twenty, it's the sign of a sore loser; contrast it with Sunday when Newton and Panthers congratulate their counterparts. Peyton's excuse is horseshoot, and an objective person sees through it. Did he forget it was RWilson and Seattle's moment or did he remember you customarily shake some hands?

You can be a Manning fan without deifying him. Or perhaps not in VN.

 

[NCFisher]

Defend him if you must. Newton failed to perform in the spotlight he desires,then showed a lack of class afterwards. It is what it is. Can't change it now no matter how much you want to degrade Manning.

That's rich. It's okay to harangue Newton for leaving reporters hanging, but to point out Manning blew off Brees & Saints is 'degrading' Manning and 'defending' Newton. Good grief.

They both had a bad moment would be a fair appraisal, with Newton being seven years younger than Manning at his moment. I think he gets the same benefit of doubt Manning got.

 

[Nerd-Vol]

Like him or not.., his brand has been elevated... Alot of money coming his way over the next few years... Book it.. Villains makes as much as the heroes

Exactly. The fact that this thread has nearly 500 post shows that he was the most interesting part of the game.

A lot of people are going to tune in just to root against the guy.

In the end, why do we care how an entertainer acts? Do you want him to be a role model? Why? He isn't there to raise your kids.

 

[southgatevol]

That's rich. It's okay to harangue Newton for leaving reporters hanging, but to point out Manning blew off Brees & Saints is 'degrading' Manning and 'defending' Newton. Good grief.

They both had a bad moment would be a fair appraisal, with Newton being seven years younger than Manning at his moment. I think he gets the same benefit of doubt Manning got.

Whatever makes you feel better.

 

[SteelerVol]

Like him or not.., his brand has been elevated... Alot of money coming his way over the next few years... Book it.. Villains makes as much as the heroes

His brand was elevated this season but it took a BIG hit Sunday. His popularity is certainly lower than when he stepped ON the field before the Superbowl. Who knows how many company execs turned away after watching his antics and said that guy would never be allowed to represent our product? Common sense says he lost more than he gained on the popularity scale.

 

[cncchris33]

Nonsense. Whether it was two or twenty, it's the sign of a sore loser; contrast it with Sunday when Newton and Panthers congratulate their counterparts. Peyton's excuse is horseshoot, and an objective person sees through it. Did he forget it was RWilson and Seattle's moment or did he remember you customarily shake some hands?

You can be a Manning fan without deifying him. Or perhaps not in VN.

So blowing holes in your theory and exposing the gross inaccuracies in the shoddy article you posted as your material witness of PM's moral deviance equates to me deifying him?

An objective person doesn't see through his reasoning. A person with an agenda looking to make a point does apparently, but not an objective person. I have no vested interest in PM's or Cam's character. You assume I'm here to go to bat for PM because he played at Tennessee. If I thought PM intentionally displayed poor character and sportsmanship by bowing out before shaking hands with Brees, I'd call him out on it. I just don't think he did. The fact that the media tried to vilify him for it is probably the entire reason he made a point to shake hands with Wilson two years ago. Otherwise, he probably walks off in the same manner with the same reasoning.

Cam could have ended a lot of the backlash with a public recognition that he handled the postgame presser poorly and unprofessionally yesterday in his media session, but instead, chose to defend it even further. And fwiw, I agree with what he said ("Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser."), but he should have still owned his poor judgement and behavior in the postgame presser when given the chance to yesterday, and he didn't. Those aren't the actions of a professional, and he'll understand that someday.

Agree to disagree with me, but don't assume I'm here to "deify" Manning just because I think Cam showed poor judgement. I didn't even bring PM up. I only poked holes in the idea that their two situations were that similar, because they aren't...at all.

 

[jakez4ut]

well, i see the mob still has their pitch forks and torches in full affect.

 

[KBVol]

What in the F does Richard Sherman being black have to do with anything? Do you think ALL black people think a like? Hell people on this board have referred to Richard Sherman as a THUG when he was screaming at the TV cameras during an interview after a game. Do you only trot out black people when their words make you feel safe, and fit your agenda?

You're the one who introduced race into this discussion a few days ago. I'm not trotting anything out, I'm referring to a black man who has had personal dealings with Peyton and has gone on record saying the man is a good guy, is a classy dude....as opposed to you, a black man who is doing everything he can to prop up the poor actions of Cam Newton, a black man, by trying to make everybody believe that Manning is not the guy who most on here think he is....even though you've never had any dealings with him.

Ftr, I didn't like Sherman's actions after that San Fran game, thought he embarrassed himself, thought he was disingenuous with how he described his interaction with Crabtree. But I never considered him, a very bright, Stanford-educated man, a "thug". As it turns out, I've come to greatly respect the young man for some other positions he's taken in recent months...he's a very talented, somewhat brash outspoken, very talented young man who has the power of his convictions. Anybody referring to Sherman as a "thug" does so in a kneejerk fashion from a position of ignorance IMO.

 

[KBVol]

Exactly. The fact that this thread has nearly 500 post shows that he was the most interesting part of the game.

A lot of people are going to tune in just to root against the guy.

In the end, why do we care how an entertainer acts? Do you want him to be a role model? Why? He isn't there to raise your kids.

As it turns out, Cam is very helpful for parents raising their kids.....as an example of exactly how not to act when you lose.

Also, I don't think this thread shows much of anything with regards to what was interesting about the game, especially since what's primarily being discussed is how Cam comported himself after the game. The most compelling story, IMHO, was about that of a legendary football player in the twilight of his career finally able to get a second Super Bowl/secure his legacy, due primarily to the efforts of his teammates who carried him to the championship, after so many years being the catalyst for his teams' success. The fairy tale type ending is by far the most compelling story....Cam Newton's "behavior" more of a side effect IMHO.

 

[cncchris33]

well, i see the mob still has their pitch forks and torches in full affect.

And unapologetic Panthers fans are still excusing the childish actions of their attention-seeking QB. Curious what their reaction would have been if this had been Jameis Winston's Super Bowl postgame reaction instead of Cam's.

 

[ptcarter]

Exactly. The fact that this thread has nearly 500 post shows that he was the most interesting part of the game.

A lot of people are going to tune in just to root against the guy.

In the end, why do we care how an entertainer acts? Do you want him to be a role model? Why? He isn't there to raise your kids.

Tiger Woods Syndrome?

 

[metafour]

How many times has Peyton danced in the end-zone, wore a Superman t-shirt or wore those MVP cleats that say "Look at me, I'm the shiz-willy of the NFL"?

So the deciding factor behind who gets to act like a "sore loser" is whether or not they dance on the field or wear flashy shirts/cleats? Really?

You people are hilarious. Yes guys, its entirely OK for Peyton to not shake anyone's hand in defeat because he doesn't wear custom cleats or t-shirts. It all makes sense!