Can we give Tim Banks credit now?

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Defense played extremely well against Clemson, even with some missing pieces. The freshman QB helped them out a lot with some poor decisions, but I believe it was a result of the pressure that came early and often. Good job, Vols!
 
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A coordinator can only be as good as the talent he has. Banks has had to deal with a bad secondary since he has been here and use smoke and mirrors to try and cover for them. I would say lets judge him once he has a good secondary and see what he can do.
 
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Longsufferingvol said:
I've been watching Tim Banks field pretty good defenses since this staff arrived at Tennessee and all I've heard is gripping about how the Vols are #X in whatever meaningless defensive statistical category. Meanwhile, we just finished as a top 5 team and had our best season since I was a kid. Do you think our defense holding a top 10 program to 14 points had anything to do with that?
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No. I'm still not buying.

1- you still have that USCe game and others where he was just outcoached. I'm not delusional. He doesn't have ideal talent. But there have been too many times when scheme or playcalling put the D in a position to fail. Too many times he seemed to get stuck in a rut.

2- Clemson couldn't finish and a lot of that was on them and their QB rather than UT being outstanding on D. They drove into UT territory on 6 of their first 7 drives. Banks had no solution. Great plays were followed by collapses giving up the advantage gained. Those missed FGs also changed the course of the game. Give the D credit for being tough in the scoring zone but that was not a dominant defensive performance.

3- The analytics sometimes cause coaches to lose. Between the fake and 3 missed FGs plus the 4th down UT stopped... you have 15 points. Clemson would have had 32 points.

4- I'm an equal opportunity knocker here. The D couldn't get off the field. The O couldn't stay on the field. That resulted in far too many opportunities for Clemson and too many plays for UT's D.

I am thrilled that UT won but there's a million reasons if you look at how the game played out... that UT should have lost.


That said, if they can turn Hadden's emotions back just one notch and give him someone on the other side... I think he can become a really good CB. Beasley showed signs he can become a dominant SEC LB. Slaughter is a guy who needs to be on the field. Not sure where. Maybe you just keep him in and rotate him through the other 5 positions but any time he's on the field WRs have to have one eye on him.

The DL probably had its best game of the year. They got pretty consistent pressure with 4. If there was one single factor that won the game for the Vols it would have to be the pressure they brought. They were able to do that while also holding Clemson under their rushing avg for the year and ypc.

IMHO, the pieces are there to become a very good D with just a few more guys. It has to be put together and coordinated well.
 
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Longsufferingvol said:
I've been watching Tim Banks field pretty good defenses since this staff arrived at Tennessee and all I've heard is gripping about how the Vols are #X in whatever meaningless defensive statistical category. Meanwhile, we just finished as a top 5 team and had our best season since I was a kid. Do you think our defense holding a top 10 program to 14 points had anything to do with that?
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I hate old cliches more than most but

Haters gonna hate.

Same for Joe Milton III. Once some of the folks in the volnation get you in their sites they can't quit. It is a sad thing but what do ya do? Just keep laughing at them and tell em they're being ridiculous.

11-2 this year and still got sad little people complaining.
 
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WillisWG said:
Scoring defense ranking #35 --22.8 p/g.

We may have the best conditioned D in the country. I doubt there is another D that could play as many minutes as ours did against our schedule and do better.

Kudos, TB
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I figured our D wouldn't be able to hold up in 4Q and Clempson would make a run given the # of plays run against them.

I was wrong and the D thrived in the end.

Very impressive performance by the players themselves. Excellent rotation of the DLinemen to keep them somewhat fresh. Our DLine depth with quality dudes is very impressive.

Go Freakin' Vols !!
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
I’ve got a meaningless stat for you. 63 pts. Defense looked good today. The same can’t be said for most of the regular season.
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Actually, the Pitt, LSU, ALA, KY, and Missouri, and Vandy games all saw decent performances from the defense. I will go as far to sat UT doesn't win Pitt or ALA without defensive play. Hypes offense is designed to score fast, look at time of procession, Clemson had over 100 plays last night. A grinding offense like Clemson's eats up clock, limits other teams touching the ball. Quick scoring offenses rewrite those rules. I have had problems with the secondary most of the season, but you seem to be a one trick pony stuck on the SC game. IF I am not mistaken you also took some digs at the QB play last night early on. When I got back to the room last night I read comments, esp from some guy on here ,Doberman vol or whatever digging on Milton. I thought holy Hell, unranked preseason UT just won the Orange Bowl, went 11-2, will end up top 5. As bad as I hated the SC game (I was there, were you?), I will take that and remember it as a great season and always remember the guys who went thru Hell during their careers at UT and put this program back. Go pull for the ETSU Bucs, they seem more your speed.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
I’ve got a meaningless stat for you. 63 pts. Defense looked good today. The same can’t be said for most of the regular season.
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You’re the type individual that will eventually have poor health. Just can’t let things go. It will catch up to you.
 
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AustinMem said:
Tim Banks sucks and Joe Milton will always overthrow people because some people love the feeling of superiority of being “right” more than being a Vols fan.
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Are you a Vols fan? Both seemed to have performed well last night when it mattered. Very unsportsman like take and very personal for some strange reason. I'm sure you've sucked a lot or on at something in life or viewed by others as someone that just plain sucks! Just saying! We did win! Go Vols!!
 
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It's a kneejerk reaction to go straight at the coach when their side of the field plays poorly. We all know we need recruits that can play. Maybe our secondary is at their ceiling already. Some guys can only get marginally better and that's capped by their athleticism or work ethic. When you get the right people along with a good coach, that's when you start seeing Georgia type defense.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
I’ve got a meaningless stat for you. 63 pts. Defense looked good today. The same can’t be said for most of the regular season.
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It was good enough to get us to 11-2!
All in all I think they did well. Is there room for improvement? Of course, but I don't think they're as bad as a lot of our own fans say.

GBO!
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volsteel said:
Are you a Vols fan? Both seemed to have performed well last night when it mattered. Very unsportsman like take and very personal for some strange reason. I'm sure you've sucked a lot or on at something in life or viewed by others as someone that just plain sucks! Just saying! We did win! Go Vols!!
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Might try re-reading, and thinking through what was said instead of knee jerking at the post.
 
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I want to see him coach a D with his players. 2023-2024 will tell the truth on his coaching. We will have depth and talent at DB and LB. D line has been ballin all year
 
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HalfullVol said:
Aaron "Beastly" will be a thing in '23.

another poster mentioned the nickname so I cannot take credit for that.
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I am glad Joe had a decent game last night. He made some good throws, ran the ball well a few times. BUT ! Beasley
was robbed of the MVP last nite. He was a beast !
 
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Coaches can only do so much.

Only Clemson’s first series, Tenn had them 3rd & 17, Vols got great pressure, CK threw it up and the Vols DB, there in good position, totally misjudged the ball & Clemson got a first down.

Tenn CBs got beat off the line a lot by Vlem WRs. They were chasing the WRs thus why they couldn’t get their head around. Every DB coaches teaches that but it doesn’t work if the WR has 2-3 steps on you.
 
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