Can We Hold a Fair Election Using Mail-in Ballots This Fall?

[MontyPython]

Trump Claims About Election Rigging Stump Some State Officials, Lawmakers

Claims by President Donald Trump that the use of mail-in ballots for November’s presidential election will result in “the most rigged election” in U.S. history is puzzling organizations representing state election officials, as well as key lawmakers.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Monday, alleging the use of mail-in ballots in several states, some being printed in foreign countries, “WILL BE THE SCANDAL OF OUR TIMES!”

But representatives for the National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) and the National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) say if there is anything behind the allegations, the Trump administration has yet to share it with them.
“We are not aware of any evidence supporting the claims made by President Trump,” NASS communications director Maria Benson told VOA via email. “As always, we are open to learning more about the administration’s concerns.
“Americans should have confidence that our elections are fairly administered and well-secured, with built-in structural safeguards to ensure accurate results,” she said.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

No, anyone who says yes has the I.Q. of a grape!

 

[TN Ribs]

Of course we can, it's a no-brainer. Even Trump had to dissolve his Voter Fraud Commission because they found no widespread evidence to support Trump's absurd claim that he should have won the popular vote in 2016.

 

[MontyPython]

So we file our taxes electronically... but, we can't vote electronically?

Someone help me understand.

As in... EVERYONE can file their taxes electronically. But, somehow, Trump would have us believe that trying to vote electronically would result in fraud.

How is that? Do tell.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Can We Hold a Fair Election Using Mail-in Ballots This Fall?

I doubt it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

This fall? No.

Can we work to, in the future, put a process in place which allows for a mail in ballot to be issued on demand and the chain of possession of that ballot be protected to get back to the states voting governing entity? Sure. The military has done it for decades.

 

[LouderVol]

Is it possible? Yes.
Will it? No.

 

[ETV]

I donr believe it's possible.

 

[luthervol]

Trump is just laying the foundation by planting seeds of doubt and mistrust.
Unfortunately, there is an abundance of "fertilized" minds in which those seeds will germinate.

 

[Orangeburst]

Trump Claims About Election Rigging Stump Some State Officials, Lawmakers

Claims by President Donald Trump that the use of mail-in ballots for November’s presidential election will result in “the most rigged election” in U.S. history is puzzling organizations representing state election officials, as well as key lawmakers.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Monday, alleging the use of mail-in ballots in several states, some being printed in foreign countries, “WILL BE THE SCANDAL OF OUR TIMES!”

But representatives for the National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) and the National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) say if there is anything behind the allegations, the Trump administration has yet to share it with them.
“We are not aware of any evidence supporting the claims made by President Trump,” NASS communications director Maria Benson told VOA via email. “As always, we are open to learning more about the administration’s concerns.
“Americans should have confidence that our elections are fairly administered and well-secured, with built-in structural safeguards to ensure accurate results,” she said.

Regardless, one needs to prove why we need mail in ballots in the first place.

 

[TheColdVolTruth]

So we file our taxes electronically... but, we can't vote electronically?

Someone help me understand.

As in... EVERYONE can file their taxes electronically. But, somehow, Trump would have us believe that trying to vote electronically would result in fraud.

How is that? Do tell.

I doubt that referencing electronic tax filing is the path I would take to make a case for a lack of fraud. Select the 2020 report from the IRS link below, and search the document for "IDTTRF". You will see that identity theft tax refund fraud is listed 81 times in the report. This doesn't even count the references to foreign bad actors attempting to breach the IRS. You may want to find a different hill to die to promote mail-in voting.

Electronic Tax Administration Advisory Committee (ETAAC) Annual Reports | Internal Revenue Service

 

[MG1968]

So we file our taxes electronically... but, we can't vote electronically?

Someone help me understand.

As in... EVERYONE can file their taxes electronically. But, somehow, Trump would have us believe that trying to vote electronically would result in fraud.

How is that? Do tell.

Equifax data breach ring a bell? If one of the most secure databases in the world can be compromised what makes you think the average American computer user gives a rat’s ass about their own internet security?

They don’t. They see their computer as an appliance. Click here. Click there. Install that cool toolbar or that nifty screensaver. Thanks to legitimate programs like Go To Meeting and remote access troubleshooting, the average person’s computer is about as secure as Stormy Daniel’s panties.

 

[C-south]

So we file our taxes electronically... but, we can't vote electronically?

Someone help me understand.

As in... EVERYONE can file their taxes electronically. But, somehow, Trump would have us believe that trying to vote electronically would result in fraud.

How is that? Do tell.

Not everyone that votes pays taxes. Actually most don’t.

 

[DynaLo]

No, absolutely not. Not a snowballs chance in hades.

There have already been hundreds of Democrat only choices ballots sent to Republicans in NJ.
A USPS worker has been arrested for vote tampering.
A USPS postal truck carrying filled out ballots has burned to cinders already in a separate incident.
Folks have been receiving ballot request forms for dead family members.
Folks have been receiving multiple ballot request forms for people who haven’t been at that address in years.

It’s already a goat rope and not likely to improve.

 

[ajvol01]

No, anyone who says yes has the I.Q. of a grape!

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Love the Q+ here

 

[BowlBrother85]

Trump is just laying the foundation by planting seeds of doubt and mistrust.
Unfortunately, there is an abundance of "fertilized" minds in which those seeds will germinate.

True. There is no evidence to show that mass voting by mail leads to an increase in voter fraud. Nor is there any data to suggest that mail-in voting favors one party over the other. In theory, larger-than-expected voter turnout favors the Democratic Party candidate, but that's not always the case. This is an example of Trump wanting to suppress the vote, and making a claim that his followers are eager to believe and get behind... just because dear leader said it. If Trump had come out in favor of mass voting by mail? Trump's sheep would be lining up to support it.

 

[BP4Prez]

So we file our taxes electronically... but, we can't vote electronically?

Someone help me understand.

As in... EVERYONE can file their taxes electronically. But, somehow, Trump would have us believe that trying to vote electronically would result in fraud.

How is that? Do tell.

Tax fraud is rampant too.

 

[zeppelin128]

If mail in ballots are so rife with fraud, why did Trump, Pence, Mother, and numerous other appointees in his administration use mail in ballots to vote? Trump even committed voter fraud in Florida, for which he should be fully prosecuted under the law to protect our sacred institution.

 

[RavinDave]

Trump is just laying the foundation by planting seeds of doubt and mistrust.
Unfortunately, there is an abundance of "fertilized" minds in which those seeds will germinate.

Dang Luther, I thought all the fertile minds were to the left of center.

 

[luthervol]

Dang Luther, I thought all the fertile minds were to the left of center.

It's a different type of fertilizer.

 

[RavinDave]

It's a different type of fertilizer.

I’d say the mushroom crop is apolitical when it comes to that. Folks all over the place living in the dark and eating loads of sh!t.

 

[Coug]

So a man who literally votes by mail himself wants to stop everyone else from doing it.

Makes perfect sense!

 

[KB5252]

So a man who literally votes by mail himself wants to stop everyone else from doing it.

Makes perfect sense!

In all fairness there is an established process used on the micro scale. We are talking macro and there are some possible issues not yet completely vetted. Given time I think it can be done safely but some prep will be needed. Not sure we have the time for that this cycle but moving forward it should be a possibility.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Trump is just laying the foundation by planting seeds of doubt and mistrust.
Unfortunately, there is an abundance of "fertilized" minds in which those seeds will germinate.

 

[MontyPython]

Regardless, one needs to prove why we need mail in ballots in the first place.

Most people here recommend that older and vulnerable folks sequester themselves at home to avoid the virus. This would allow them to vote and remain quarantined.