Canada's Truck Convoy to Protest Mandate

[luthervol]

That's not what you said!

Not if you say you won't support a group that uses "ANY" violence.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

 

[luthervol]

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[luthervol]

So Covid being harmful is up for debate, but BLM being a harmful movement isn’t?

You are the guys saying it is not up for debate.

 

[Vol8188]

You can claim it if you wish, but I don't think you will find many who would agree.
Unlike my stance, where I can find a majority who would agree.

Do you at a minimum accept BLM is a marxist organization?

Are you also arguing that being a violent group is dependent upon popular opinion rather than group actions?

 

[C-south]

lol......It's a completely relevant fact.
No one disputes the fact that there was rioting. They dispute the fact that BLM is a violent organization.
The fact that over 93% of the protests were 100% peaceful is proof.

Of all the gang members only a few shoot each other.

 

[ButchPlz]

Only 8% of the south's population directly participated in the 1860s during the Mostly Peaceful Protest Between the States.

 

[luthervol]

my statement is and has always been that the vast majority of Germans were peaceful in 1939 to 1945. Of a nation of maybe 80 million a few million actually took up arms

The vast majority of 1/6 protestors were peaceful
The vast majority of the truckers are peaceful.

 

[allvol123]

You are the guys saying it is not up for debate.

Most are saying you are attempting to lie and whitewash the facts by using these absurd numbers you’re pulling out your ass. One, not sure anyone believes the numbers. Two, even if they were accurate they don’t take away from the fact that BLM is a destructive organization.

 

[ButchPlz]

Most are saying you are attempting to lie and whitewash the facts by using these absurd numbers you’re pulling out your ass. One, not sure anyone believes the numbers. Two, even if they were accurate they don’t take away from the fact that BLM is a destructive organization.

How anyone can say that an organization that has a literal fist as a logo and tries to aggressively force people into action (SILENCE IS VIOLENCE HURR HURR) is "peaceful" is beyond me.

But again, I at least have several functioning brain cells and a pair of nuts, so that's that.

 

[VolinWayne]

It appears truckers are all in

 

[ButchPlz]

It appears truckers are all in

@Velo Vol can you count these for us?

 

[luthervol]

Do you at a minimum accept BLM is a marxist organization?

I believe there are some under the BLM umbrella who believe in the need for a more socialistic society.

 

[luthervol]

Only 8% of the south's population directly participated in the 1860s during the Mostly Peaceful Protest Between the States.

Most members of the NRA have not committed murder with a gun.

 

[Vol8188]

I believe there are some under the BLM umbrella who believe in the need for a more socialistic society.

Such as the founder's of BLM and those who control the website for BLM, who openly admit to being Marxists? I'm not proclaiming anyone who's ever attended a rally to be Marxist, but the organization itself is obviously, blatantly Marxist.

FTR your stance on why BLM is not a violent organization but the KKK is, was "popular opinion". That's not exactly a great way of defining such things.

 

[C-south]

Most members of the NRA have not committed murder with a gun.

Nor looted any stores, destroyed property, blocked traffic, etc

 

[luthervol]

Do you at a minimum accept BLM is a marxist organization?

Are you also arguing that being a violent group is dependent upon popular opinion rather than group actions?

I'm saying the UT home football crowd is not a violent group even though some become violent and some condone the violence.
I've seen it with my own eyes on numerous occasions.

 

[OrangeTsar]

The vast majority of 1/6 protestors were peaceful
The vast majority of the truckers are peaceful.

The vast majority or any movement are peaceful. People in charge didn’t get to be in charge by being stupid enough to get their own hands dirty. That’s why the “mostly peaceful” claim for any movement is really meaningless and can be thrown around with no real evidence. We have to look at the expressed goals of any group. The message of the truckers is that they just want to be left alone and be allowed to live their lives. The expressed goals of BLM are to redress a litany of historical wrongs by doing a set of crafted “counter wrongs” to cancel the previous wrong. The stated goals of Antifa are to defeat anyone they deem “fascist” (that is anyone who disagrees with them) by “any means necessary”. One of these three groups does have (in my opinion at least) a more legitimate claim to non violence

 

[85SugarVol]

Your definition of vast majority 100% might be different than those who live in the cities that were destroyed, burned. looted and businesses lost. Officer Dorn shot and killed.

He’s not talking about Portland here.

9 peaceful protests and 1 riot that does $100M in damages means that 90% of the protests were “peaceful”

 

[Vol8188]

I'm saying the UT home football crowd is not a violent group even though some become violent and some condone the violence.
I've seen it with my own eyes on numerous occasions.

Yes, the KKK says the same thing. We've already covered that. They're called "lone wolves".

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

There is no conflict in his statement. Millions of people support BLM who do not support any group that condones violence.

That's funny considering that no MSM from the leftside called out the violence. In fact, I remember the script they all read from was "peaceful protest."

 

[luthervol]

Yes, the KKK says the same thing. We've already covered that. They're called "lone wolves".

So who decides if the KKK, BLM, UT home crowds, or NRA members are a violent group?

 

[luthervol]

That's funny considering that no MSM from the leftside called out the violence. In fact, I remember the script they all read from was "peaceful protest."

They all called out the violence.

 

[hog88]

I like to peruse twitter just to see what the lefties are saying. They're literally trying to equate this with white supremacy.

Of course they are, it's the only card they have left to play.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Yes, the KKK says the same thing. We've already covered that. They're called "lone wolves".

And that is why the IRA had their “political wing” so they could claim deniability for the violence. It is an ancient trick

 

[luthervol]

I like to peruse twitter just to see what the lefties are saying. They're literally trying to equate this with white supremacy.

It's pretty easy to find idiots on twitter.