Canada's Truck Convoy to Protest Mandate

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luthervol said:
I think you guys are overreacting a tad. Stupid tweet, but we should be numb to that after 4 years of Trump. And Trudeau should have learned from how stupid Trump looked after his ill-advised tweets.
But who doesn't condemn those things listed? They didn't say it was widespread or prevalent - just that they condemn what they have seen on display. Just like condemning the violence on display at a protest. You are not condemning the protest or the people there who are not part of the violence, but you are condemning the actions and people deserving of condemnation.
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For a nation that would do best to just forget Trump ever existed, both sides sure just can’t quit mentioning the guy
 
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Ttucke11 said:
Stay parked as long as possible. Hope the U.S. does something similar, but we all know it would immediately become January 6th 2.0. Liberals would be reeee'ing their heads off.
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The US truckers are trying to do the same thing but our socially left wing democrat controlled media barons are shutting down any attempt to do it, thank goodness. We don't need more misinformation from racist truckers about covid, we need more masks, vaccinations and shutdowns to keep me safe.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
Stay parked as long as possible. Hope the U.S. does something similar, but we all know it would immediately become January 6th 2.0. Liberals would be reeee'ing their heads off.
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If they are forced to return to work, all Truckers really have to do is make a decision to obey every traffic law to the letter. Not a mile (kilometer) over the speed limit. Absolute full stop and triple check at all stop signs. Take every second of mandates rest period. Every shipment is predicated on a time assumption that cannot be met without speeding and cutting corners. Going 100% legal would surely crimp things almost as bad as a stoppage. And no one could legally say a thing against them
 
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luthervol said:
I think you guys are overreacting a tad. Stupid tweet, but we should be numb to that after 4 years of Trump. And Trudeau should have learned from how stupid Trump looked after his ill-advised tweets.
But who doesn't condemn those things listed? They didn't say it was widespread or prevalent - just that they condemn what they have seen on display. Just like condemning the violence on display at a protest. You are not condemning the protest or the people there who are not part of the violence, but you are condemning the actions and people deserving of condemnation.
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There hasn't been any violence or displays of racism/bigotry. The guy is condemning the protestors as a whole, no other way to spin it.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
If they are forced to return to work, all Truckers really have to do is make a decision to obey every traffic law to the letter. Not a mile (kilometer) over the speed limit. Absolute full stop and triple check at all stop signs. Take every second of mandates rest period. Every shipment is predicated on a time assumption that cannot be met without speeding and cutting corners. Going 100% legal would surely crimp things almost as bad as a stoppage. And no one could legally say a thing against them
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3 days, that would be all it took if every trucker in the US called in sick. It won't happen but 3 days without any trucks running would cause massive problems for weeks.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
If they are forced to return to work, all Truckers really have to do is make a decision to obey every traffic law to the letter. Not a mile (kilometer) over the speed limit. Absolute full stop and triple check at all stop signs. Take every second of mandates rest period. Every shipment is predicated on a time assumption that cannot be met without speeding and cutting corners. Going 100% legal would surely crimp things almost as bad as a stoppage. And no one could legally say a thing against them
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Very true.
 
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luthervol said:
Vol8188 said:
What if that president limits truckers from coming into our country during a supply chain crisis, Canada was doing that anyway - but I think Biden should overrule the Dept. of Homeland Security if he has that authority
doubles Canadian tariffs, he didn't double Canadian tariffs - only example was lumber
attempts to dramatically increase spending, - this one is just absurdly hysterical - most economists view the infrastructure bill as an economic boost.
threatens businesses, - again, absurdly hysterical
and attempts to raise taxes for everyone except rich people in liberal cities and states - three strikes and you're out -

While his party still promotes lockdowns - the vast majority of the dem party is not promoting lockdowns.

Your list was pitiful - you may think there is something there, but you're fooling yourself.
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You claimed none of those things were happening. Now you admit they were? We call that a lie
 
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luthervol said:
I think you guys are overreacting a tad. Stupid tweet, but we should be numb to that after 4 years of Trump. And Trudeau should have learned from how stupid Trump looked after his ill-advised tweets.
But who doesn't condemn those things listed? They didn't say it was widespread or prevalent - just that they condemn what they have seen on display. Just like condemning the violence on display at a protest. You are not condemning the protest or the people there who are not part of the violence, but you are condemning the actions and people deserving of condemnation.
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They are defining the whole by the actions of a few. Months ago they were singing a completely different tune..... That is a very distinct and troublesome double standard.

It is hard to paint this as anything but an escalation into the demonization of a portion of the citizenry for political purposes.
 
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KB5252 said:
They are defining the whole by the actions of a few. Months ago they were singing a completely different tune..... That is a very distinct and troublesome double standard.

It is hard to paint this as anything but an escalation into the demonization of a portion of the citizenry for political purposes.
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Classic Soviet style dissemination. The phrase the Soviets always used when dealing with dissidents was to charge them with „hooliganism“. I have already seen that phrase used by Libs on Twitter to describe the truckers
 
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OrangeTsar said:
For a nation that would do best to just forget Trump ever existed, both sides sure just can’t quit mentioning the guy
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He's like a nasty scar that just will not heal. Even after it heals, the nasty scar will remain.
 
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hog88 said:
Trudeau and the parliament just threw out any chance of negotiating, he has to order the police and/or army in to clear them out. That tweet is a line in the sand that was crossed.
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And the police and army would gladly do it.
 
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hog88 said:
There hasn't been any violence or displays of racism/bigotry. The guy is condemning the protestors as a whole, no other way to spin it.
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Sure there is. I saw a picture of someone flying a Nazi flag. I'm sure there have been other displays. In a crowd that big, it's inevitable. Just like in a large protest, it's inevitable that there will be some pathetic idiots.
The violence, looting, and burning that may happen at an otherwise peaceful protest should be condemned - and those responsible arrested and prosecuted.
The racists, bigoted, etc....displays at this protest (or any protest) should be condemned. They did that, no biggie.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
If they are forced to return to work, all Truckers really have to do is make a decision to obey every traffic law to the letter. Not a mile (kilometer) over the speed limit. Absolute full stop and triple check at all stop signs. Take every second of mandates rest period. Every shipment is predicated on a time assumption that cannot be met without speeding and cutting corners. Going 100% legal would surely crimp things almost as bad as a stoppage. And no one could legally say a thing against them
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Malicious compliance
 
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luthervol said:
Sure there is. I saw a picture of someone flying a Nazi flag. I'm sure there have been other displays. In a crowd that big, it's inevitable. Just like in a large protest, it's inevitable that there will be some pathetic idiots.
The violence, looting, and burning that may happen at an otherwise peaceful protest should be condemned - and those responsible arrested and prosecuted.
The racists, bigoted, etc....displays at this protest (or any protest) should be condemned. They did that, no biggie.
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You'd twist yourself into a pretzel to defend your team.
 
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luthervol said:
Sure there is. I saw a picture of someone flying a Nazi flag. I'm sure there have been other displays. In a crowd that big, it's inevitable. Just like in a large protest, it's inevitable that there will be some pathetic idiots.
The violence, looting, and burning that may happen at an otherwise peaceful protest should be condemned - and those responsible arrested and prosecuted.
The racists, bigoted, etc....displays at this protest (or any protest) should be condemned. They did that, no biggie.
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So you allegedly saw someone (one person) with a Nazi flag. And condemning violence that "may happen", not that "has happened".
 
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Vol8188 said:
You claimed none of those things were happening. Now you admit they were? We call that a lie
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I really don't care what you call it, but for the sake of accuracy I think I said, thankfully no one is doing that. (You can go back and check if you're so moved) I'll stand by that.
Basically, your list was so absurd, I felt it deserved an equally absurd response. In hindsight, I realize it deserved no response.
 
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KB5252 said:
They are defining the whole by the actions of a few. Months ago they were singing a completely different tune..... That is a very distinct and troublesome double standard.

It is hard to paint this as anything but an escalation into the demonization of a portion of the citizenry for political purposes.
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lol.....That's exactly what 95% of the posters in the PF and the entirety of rightwing media have done with the BLM protests.
Some on the left are doing with this what the right did with the BLM protests.
The double standard is working both ways.
 
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luthervol said:
He's like a nasty scar that just will not heal. Even after it heals, the nasty scar will remain.
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At least quit picking at the scab. I don’t want him back either. But as long as his name keeps getting bandied about, he gains in power
 
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luthervol said:
I really don't care what you call it, but for the sake of accuracy I think I said, thankfully no one is doing that. (You can go back and check if you're so moved) I'll stand by that.
Basically, your list was so absurd, I felt it deserved an equally absurd response. In hindsight, I realize it deserved no response.
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Yet they are doing those things and you agreed. You can call them absurd, but they’re still occurring. We still doubling our tariff on lumbar. We still banned unvaccinated truckers. They still attempted to increase tax cuts for the wealthy and they still attempted to dramatically increase spending
 
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OrangeTsar said:
At least quit picking at the scab. I don’t want him back either. But as long as his name keeps getting bandied about, he gains in power
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It would help if we could put a bandage over it to at least keep it out of sight, but the right refuses. The wound is now open and oozing into the governor's race in GA.
 
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