Canada's Truck Convoy to Protest Mandate

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luthervol said:
Sure there is. I saw a picture of someone flying a Nazi flag. I'm sure there have been other displays. In a crowd that big, it's inevitable. Just like in a large protest, it's inevitable that there will be some pathetic idiots.
The violence, looting, and burning that may happen at an otherwise peaceful protest should be condemned - and those responsible arrested and prosecuted.
The racists, bigoted, etc....displays at this protest (or any protest) should be condemned. They did that, no biggie.
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Have you considered that JUST MAYBE the Nazi flags are trying to link Tredeau to the Nazis, not expressing admiration for the Nazis?
Heaven knows i saw plenty of Nazi symbols plastered all over signs about Trump at Antifa amd BLM “events”
 
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I was reminded of that EMT I knew who thought everyone who commuted to work was likely to die in a car accident.
I said to him, "you know, the vast majority of people who commute arrive at work and back home safely; in fact, most can commute a lifetime without being involved in a fatal accident. " I went on to say, "look it up, they actually have statistical data."
He answered by saying "I don't need to look at no fake stats, I've seen accidents and people killed." He even showed me photos from a couple of accidents as if that was some type of proof for his position.
 
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luthervol said:
lol.....That's exactly what 95% of the posters in the PF and the entirety of rightwing media have done with the BLM protests.
Some on the left are doing with this what the right did with the BLM protests.
The double standard is working both ways.
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It isn't though, in both the US and Canada the government was careful not to condemn the actions of a few. In fact they largely ignored it while city blocks burned. In this case the government is taking a very different stand they are attempting to paint the comparably mild actions of a few with the movement labeling it as unacceptable violence.

It's one thing for some randos on a message board to treat two different situations with a double standard but for a government to do it proves they are biased and don't treat or represent two different groups equally. Dismiss it if you want but that's a huge problem. And only illustrates the very need for what they are doing.

Furthermore it's one thing to decry murder, arson and assaults. But they are going out of their way to decry simple vandalism and disrespect. They are not the same, surely you place them at different points on your continuum no?
 
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hog88 said:
The BLM protests from May 26 to August 22, 2020 averaged 6 violent protests per day And did almost 2 billion dollars worth of damage. But yeah they were mostly peaceful.
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Over 9,000 people died in automobile accidents between May 26 and August 22. But yeah, cars are mostly safe.
 
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KB5252 said:
It isn't though, in both the US and Canada the government was careful not to condemn the actions of a few. In fact they largely ignored it while city blocks burned. In this case the government is taking a very different stand they are attempting to paint the comparably mild actions of a few with the movement labeling it as unacceptable violence.

It's one thing for some randos on a message board to treat two different situations with a double standard but for a government to do it proves they are biased and don't treat or represent two different groups equally. Dismiss it if you want but that's a huge problem. And only illustrates the very need for what they are doing.

Furthermore it's one thing to decry murder, arson and assaults. But they are going out of their way to decry simple vandalism and disrespect. They are not the same, surely you place them at different points on your continuum no?
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That's not true. Practically everyone condemned the violence.
 
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luthervol said:
No, you misunderstood what I was attempting to say. I was talking about the violence that may happen at any protest - like it did in a few of the BLM protests. It should be condemned but not used in an attempt to define the vast majority.
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Luther, violence occurred during many if not most BLM protests. There was violence in virtually every major city , I witnessed it here in Nashville not far away from where I live. I witnessed violence live on TV in Atlanta where you live. Not every protest was violent but many were, it wasn't just a few.

Maybe the issue is what you call violence. I'll revert to the legal definition as the basis for my assertion.
 
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KB5252 said:
Luther, violence occurred during many if not most BLM protests. There was violence in virtually every major city , I witnessed it here in Nashville not far away from where I live. I witnessed violence live on TV in Atlanta where you live. Not every protest was violent but many were, it wasn't just a few.

Maybe the issue is what you call violence. I'll revert to the legal definition as the basis for my assertion.
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Look at the stats. I've posted them numerous times. I'm done posting them.
If anyone really wants to know, the data is out there.
 
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luthervol said:
That's not true. Practically everyone condemned the violence.
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They condem the violence but that doesn't address a fraction of my post. They painted with two very different brushes depending on the group protesting.
 
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luthervol said:
Look at the stats. I've posted them numerous times. I'm done posting them.
If anyone really wants to know, the data is out there.
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I believe their issue is they are looking at crimes committed no?
 
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Here's a better one.
From May 20th, 2020 thru August 28th, 2020 there were 103,264 reported COVID deaths. But yeah, COVID is not a problem.

You guys sound just like those who are trying to make COVID sound as dangerous and scary as possible.
It's almost as if there is an agenda.
 
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KB5252 said:
I believe their issue is they are looking at crimes committed no?
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I've never disputed crimes were committed - it's horrible.
I've never disputed people die in car accidents - it's horrible.
I've never disputed people die of COVID - it's horrible.
I've never disputed people did at the hands of stolen gun - it's horrible.
 
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So whatever happened with this? Did they shut down Ottawa or wherever? Were they attacked by counter protestors such that they had to get Kyle Rittenhouse up there to restore order?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Do you believe that BLM protests led to extreme violence even in your hometown of Atlanta?
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I believe that some took advantage of the cover of a protest to act like complete and pathetic idiots - it's unfortunately inevitable.
I KNOW that the vast majority of BLM protests were 100% peaceful.
 
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luthervol said:
I've never disputed crimes were committed - it's horrible.
I've never disputed people die in car accidents - it's horrible.
I've never disputed people die of COVID - it's horrible.
I've never disputed people did at the hands of stolen gun - it's horrible.
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By car accidents do you mean young kids who are shot by “peaceful” protestors near Atlanta? Imagine if that had been a trump rally. We’d all know that young black girls name
 
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luthervol said:
I've never disputed crimes were committed - it's horrible.
I've never disputed people die in car accidents - it's horrible.
I've never disputed people die of COVID - it's horrible.
I've never disputed people did at the hands of stolen gun - it's horrible.
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That doesn't answer the question. Are you intentionally evading it?
 
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