Capitalism and Wealth Distribution - How do you see it?

#51
#51
TennNC said:
as is government.
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and the point would be that each is equally worthy of distrust. The difference would be that the "absolute power" point in emain's argument would be a better descriptor for the gov't than for corporations.
 
#52
#52
BigPapaVol said:
and the point would be that each is equally worthy of distrust. The difference would be that the "absolute power" point in emain's argument would be a better descriptor for the gov't than for corporations.
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What BPV said.
 
#53
#53
BigPapaVol said:
and the point would be that each is equally worthy of distrust. The difference would be that the "absolute power" point in emain's argument would be a better descriptor for the gov't than for corporations.
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You also posted:

"For trustworthiness, politicians aren't even close to corporations. Additionally corporations have no ability to coerce as the gov't does. I'll hang my flag with the corps."

So I'm clear, they're both worthy of distrust, just that you distrust govt much, much more b/c it has the ability to coerce. Correct?

Do you believe that corporations (and their representatives) have any ability to coerce government officials? People coercing people, in other words.
 
#54
#54
TennNC said:
You also posted:

"For trustworthiness, politicians aren't even close to corporations. Additionally corporations have no ability to coerce as the gov't does. I'll hang my flag with the corps."

So I'm clear, they're both worthy of distrust, just that you distrust govt much, much more b/c it has the ability to coerce. Correct?

Do you believe that corporations (and their representatives) have any ability to coerce government officials? People coercing people, in other words.
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exactly correct. The power to coerce is the absolute power that I believe emain misplaced.

I don't think corporations have any ability to coerce gov't function.
 
#55
#55
BigPapaVol said:
exactly correct. The power to coerce is the absolute power that I believe emain misplaced.

I don't think corporations have any ability to coerce gov't function.
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so what are lobbyists doing? asking nicely and politely?
 
#58
#58
TennNC said:
so that the government can coerce people to benefit them?
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yes, but lobbyists are simply buying access to the coercion machine. to the extent that those in the coercion machine have my best interests at heart, the lobbyists are simply pissing away money (and that happens a lot). The lobbyists and corporates have no ability to coerce in and of themselves.
 
#59
#59
I would add that there are a few more mechanisms controlling corporations (or the evil leaders of them).

1. Boards of Directors
2. Stockholders
3. Market mechanisms
4. Political leaders via legislation
5. Regulatory agencies enabled by #4.

For politicians, the checks aren't as direct. It is harder to remove a politician from power than a CEO - ask Wachovia's former CEO!
 
#61
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volinbham said:
I would add that there are a few more mechanisms controlling corporations (or the evil leaders of them).

1. Boards of Directors
2. Stockholders
3. Market mechanisms
4. Political leaders via legislation
5. Regulatory agencies enabled by #4.

For politicians, the checks aren't as direct. It is harder to remove a politician from power than a CEO - ask Wachovia's former CEO!
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:hi:
 
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